(upbeat music) - Welcome to In the News for June 28th, 2024.

I am Brett Burnley from appsinlaw.com. - And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhone JD.

Hey Brett. - Hi Jeff, good to talk with you again.

And it seems like we have some more discoveries from iOS 18.

We knew this was gonna happen, you know, once some folks and developers started getting their hands on the beta versions of iOS 18.

I don't think it's just a whole lot going on, but a couple of things that you linked to today, Jeff, were great.

Again, wow, Apple seems to be improving the Maps app quite a bit.

And this new feature I'm pretty excited about actually. - Yeah, I really like it.

Search here.

So when you're in the Maps, and I've been here before, I know you have too, where like, you're not looking for something at home.

You know that you're going someplace, you know, maybe I'm going across the state for a deposition in a different part of the state or whatever.

And so once I'm in that area, like I'm looking around the map and I wanna search in that area.

And I have to admit, sometimes it seems like it does work and sometimes it doesn't.

And the next thing you do, I'm running a search and I'm finding things back across the street from my house.

I'm like, no, no, no, I'm not searching New Orleans.

I'm searching some other place.

And so one of the nice features that Chance Miller found in iOS 18 is that when you are sort of moving around the map, if you're just on some area of the map, that's not where you're currently located, just above the search bar where you would type in the term, it says search here, just to make it very obvious that you can now search in that area.

So if you wanna search for, you know, hotels or restaurants or whatever else, you could just, you know, keep yourself in that area that you're looking at.

Great function.

It seems like sometimes it would do something similar with the current system, sometimes not.

I'm glad that Apple is making this explicit, very useful.

It's a great improvement that they frankly should have done years ago. - Absolutely.

And you know, the first thing I thought of is for some reason, what we, you know, since I do quite a bit of travel, I'm searching for hotels.

And sometimes I'm like, okay, well, I could do it downtown or I could do it maybe, you know, five miles out of downtown.

And so I'll move the map around a little bit, right?

On usually on the hotel websites.

And it's like, you know, it gave me the initial like downtown searches, but then I moved just a little bit to the East or West or whatever.

And like, I wanna search here.

Like I wanna search right there.

Like you gave me the downtown options.

And now I wanna know some of the options in the other places.

And some of these sites will have a search here.

Like in other words, refresh the search.

And so when I saw this today that you lead to, I was like, yes, thank you.

Like, that's cool to me.

That's just intuitive.

It's something that should be, I think, like pretty much any maps.

And same thing, by the way, like if I'm searching for a coffee shop, I'm like, okay, here, but I'm gonna go to this office over here, you know, a couple of miles to the North and I'm gonna search right there for that kind of thing.

So thanks for doing that. - Yeah.

And I think one of the big improvements there is just to make it very clear, search here, you know, just to make sure you know exactly what you're doing.

You are searching right here, make it perfectly clear.

I love that. - Another thing you'll lead to today, which this is really on the high end of the geeky scale, I think, Jeff, iPadOS 18, adding support for formatting external drives.

My first thought on this, Jeff, was, wow, you know, if you're not of a certain vintage, maybe perhaps like you and I are, Jeff, I don't know if anybody even knows what we're talking about here when you're formatting external drives.

We used to do this, you know, for, well, way back in the day for like floppy drives, right?

Or even some USB drives.

And really this comes into play if you're, you know, erasing a drive and then you're reformatting it.

Sometimes it only depends on if you're reformatting it for a drive that works at a Mac side versus a Windows side.

But why don't you explain a little bit more to the kids as it were, what we're talking about here. - Yeah, I mean, the modern operating systems for the Mac, the iPads, iPhones, they can read lots of different formats, but you get different functionality.

You know, obviously if you, you know, some formats only allow a certain character length for file names and some will recognize upper and lowercase and others don't.

You know, all of those are just geeky little details, but the real key is by adding this capability into the operating system, it just allows you to be more sophisticated.

I have a theory as to why Apple's doing this very specific one.

And I think it's because, you know, Apple has, they now have this version of Final Cut Pro for the iPad, the Final Cut Pro version two for the iPad has just come out.

There's some other ones.

I forget what the competitor is called.

Is it Adobe Premiere maybe?

There are other, you know, when you're using an iPad to do video editing, especially with 4K and increasingly as they move towards, you know, spatial computing, it'll be even higher.

You know, these things just suck up space.

So much so that, you know, when you look at an iPad and you see that you can get an iPad that's a terabyte or even more than a terabyte, you're like, who would need that much space?

Well, the only people that really need that much space are people working with these huge videos.

And in fact, when you're working with huge videos, you know, even the onboard space is not nearly enough.

You need to connect external, hopefully very fast SSD drives.

And so I think that this is what this is about.

You know, if you're gonna be a video person that's gonna be using an iPad to do, even if it's just the first set of your cuts to the video, maybe you'll move it to the computer for the end.

Final Cut Pro is nice that way.

You can, the version of the iPad doesn't have all the features, but you can start on the iPad and then move to the computer later when you're out of the field.

I think that this is what this is about.

You know, people are probably out there, they're working with hard drives and they're realizing, wait a minute, I wanna just take one more hard drive, but it's, you know, I just bought it from the store.

So it's formatted for PC and I wanna get it formatted for Mac.

And so I think that that's probably where it comes from, although Apple isn't saying.

But it goes to the bigger picture of, it's moving the iPad more to be a grownup computer, which is what I want.

You know, I love the fact that the iPad is not a computer, unlike the approach that Windows has sort of traditionally taken with the Surface and stuff like that.

They have tried to sort of be the master of all and, you know, it doesn't really good.

I like the idea that things are different on an iPad than a Mac, but there are some power features, some utility type features that you can do in a computer that you simply can't do on an iPad.

You know, it reminds me, I actually had a question come in to me this week, Brett Bunn, somebody who was a reader of iPhone JD, and they said that their kid was going off, I forget if it was college or law school, I think it was law school.

And the question was, if you just had to get like that one new device to go, should you get a Mac?

You know, should you get like a nice MacBook Air or should you get a nice iPad?

And as much as I love the iPad, and frankly, if I myself was that student, I would probably go with the iPad.

I just think that the computer is more versatile because, you know, there's so much more you can do with the computer.

And the modern Macs are so good.

I just think that for most people, that is the more versatile thing.

And so, but that doesn't mean that I don't want the iPad on the iPhone to become more powerful.

So I like that Apple continues to add features like this. - It just, to that point, it just seems like, you know, you can go almost like 98.7% of the way with an iPad, right?

And then it's just that tiny little thing, that one little scenario where you might need to switch over.

For example, I use my wife quite a bit as an example.

All she uses, all day long, every day long, Jeff, is an iPad Air.

You know, I think I got it for her maybe about a year ago or so, but before that, she's had two or three other iPads.

And that's what she uses for the vast majority of everything she does.

Texting, you know, reading, research, emailing, like website, you know, everything is on the iPad Air, except that there's like one or two websites sometimes that she needs to go to, you know, for the kids' school or something, that is just gonna only work the best on an actual laptop.

And she has to borrow one, either from me or from my son or somebody like, "Hey, I need to use your laptop just for a lot."

You know, it only happens maybe once every other week or so.

But anyway, to your point, I have to agree with you.

And you know, some people have said that that's sort of a knock against the iPad and the way it goes.

But I think to your point also that you've made, it's just great to see that Apple is continuing to put some of these, what I would consider to be higher end, like professional grade options in here in this, you know, I mean, I still run into folks all the time, Jeff, that don't even know the iPad and the iPhone too, for that matter, can even use a USB thumb drive or an external hard drive, right?

And you can, that's been in there in the files app now for a while.

And I tell people that, and they kind of look at me like, "What are you crazy?

Like, that's ridiculous."

But you know, it's just those, it seems like it's incremental moves toward a more professionally, you know, based comprehensive computer system, the iPad that is.

But anyway, it's good to see this.

I think it's, like you said, it's gonna be for a very slim, narrow area, you know, scenario where this is gonna be useful.

But I'm just, I'm glad to see that it's in there because to me, it just kind of pushes that dial just a little bit more.

Well, even if you're not on iOS 18 yet, and I don't think most people listening should be yet, unless you're a developer, you can still take advantage of some great tips on the iPhone.

I saw this headline earlier this week too, Jeff, and we always enjoy these.

How many tips in these articles do you already know?

Or how many did you not even know?

This is from CNET this week.

The hidden button on the back of your iPhone did know about that one.

And 22 other settings that you can customize.

What a fun list to go through.

I always like to scroll through these. - Yeah, you know, it's funny that you phrased it that way.

You know, what did you already know and what did you not know?

'Cause I think of these lists the same way, but there's actually a third category too, Brett.

The third category is the tips that you knew but forgot about 'cause you haven't used them in a while.

And that's often good too.

And that's one of the reasons I like to look through this, 'cause like, oh, you know, you could do that.

You know, a perfect example of them is the one that's in the title, which is the idea that you can, you know, tap and you can use an accessibility setting that when you tap your iPhone, it does something like launch a shortcut or do something special.

And I'll tell you, this is a tip that I have used on and off many, many times over the years.

I never ultimately keep it on for a long period of time because I find that sometimes I will accidentally tap the back of my iPhone.

You know, not intending to tap it, you just touch it and it triggers it.

But there will be a period of time, like I might be in the process of doing a task.

And so like just for today, when I tap the back of my iPhone, I wanted to do something and then it would be useful and I'll get that done and then I'll turn it off again after the day.

So that's a good one to sort of to know about.

Another one that I liked that was in this list is, and this I think just came out last year in iOS 17, if I remember correctly, but it's this idea of live voicemails so that as somebody is leaving you a voicemail, you can actually see the text of what they're saying.

It's just like the old days of monitoring an answering machine and then, you know, picking it up if you wanna talk to them.

I use this one a lot.

You know, I'm sitting here at my computer at my office right now.

And as I glanced down, I am looking at my iPhone, which is on my little stand.

So it's being charged right now.

And right now it's just showing me the time.

But if somebody calls me on my cell phone, I will see on my iPhone screen, you know, the message, like, do you wanna answer it?

And oftentimes if somebody is calling my cell phone during work hours, it's usually not somebody that I wanna talk to.

And, or sometimes I don't know who it is.

It's just like a random number.

And so I will just tap that button on it to send it to voicemail.

And then I like that as I'm sitting there sort of doing my work, I can sort of glance.

And sometimes it'll be a telemarketer.

And so as soon as I send them a voicemail, they'll just hang up.

But sometimes it's, you know, some service person that's just calling me.

I just didn't recognize the number.

And then as I'll see, you know, the text on the screen of, you know, we're calling to reschedule your appointment for the dentist or whatever it is.

And I'm like, oh, okay.

And I'll either just look at it and then no one wanna call them back or you can just pick up the phone and start talking to them.

So live voicemail is a good feature.

And if you're not using it, it's worthwhile if you have your iPhone in a position where you can just sort of see it.

So there's some other good tips in here too, in the settings.

But like I said, it's always nice to sort of scroll through these.

Anything jump out at you or? - Well, I'm just gonna quickly go back to the back tap on this.

Because like you said, this is something that actually that I use almost every day, Jeff. - Oh really?

Okay. - I don't even think about it, but here's the thing.

Here's the quirk about this.

Unlike you, I remember I found a neat little tip probably about a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago, Jeff.

And it was, I triple tap on the back of my phone to instigate a shortcut that basically pulled my AirPods onto my phone.

In other words, if they were connected to my Mac or my iPad, right?

I would do a triple tap to start that shortcut that pulled it back.

And that's the only thing I've ever used it for.

In other words, I'm looking at this thinking, wow, I'm just really lacking in utilizing some of these tips on this.

But by the way, this back tap, you can do a double tap.

And just like what you said, Jeff, I tried to use the double tap and turn that on, but then I quickly turned it off because just like you, every time I almost that I would find that I would set my phone down on a table or something, the phone would think of it as a double back tap.

So I went to the triple back tap because I found that that didn't get instigated quickly like the double tap did. - Yeah, good point. - It just made me think, and it's like, I haven't visited this back tap option here in a long, long time.

And it might be worthwhile to go in and try that.

But that's a great tip, by the way.

I love that because I like to say like, don't switch automatically between my Mac and my iPhone from my AirPods.

And so what I would do is I would use that back, instead of having to go through all the Bluetooth menu, I would just use that triple back tap and that was good.

I think there's some other quickly good ones in here.

Add features that can be used when your iPhone is locked.

I tell people, I think we've talked about this before, go in and look at those, what features you do have turned on and what you don't, because I like to lock it down, truly lock it down when my iPhone is locked.

I don't want people to get into the today view or so.

And there's some really ways that you can customize that.

And to me, that's worthwhile looking into that and making sure that people, that you're comfortable about that.

I even like this, how to change your default email app or your web browser.

I know for me and you, we've talked about, I still like using the Safari app as my default web browser on the phone, but I know both of my kids, they use Chrome all the time.

So they have actually gone in and changed their default web app to, or the default browser into Chrome, which they like.

So anytime they tap on a link, instead of it opening the Safari browser, they go to Chrome browser and to each his own.

And it's just good to know that you can change that.

I remember there was a time when Apple didn't allow you to change that Jeff, right? - Right. - And so once they opened that up and then again, on the email app, you can change that as well.

If you have Outlook or Gmail or something like that, you can go in and change that.

So, to me, just like, that's great.

I like the third category Jeff.

It's like, hey, read through this, just to see the ones that you may have noted once upon a time, but now you can remind yourself about them.

Here's another good one here. 10 things everyone should know about the iPhone's keyboard for a better typing experience.

So not only do we have the 22 like general tips, here are a couple of type, to me again, this was a great to run through these to say, oh yeah, that's right.

I do remember that you can get access, you can swipe around the keyboard instead of actually tapping in either of the keys.

Good stuff here as well. - Yeah, one that I like is that, and it's always a good reminder of it.

I think it's number three on the list.

It's the switch between the keyboard views faster.

And what this one is, is you're typing in your iPhone and you have like the letters, right?

And then you wanna switch to the number keyboard.

And so there's that button at the bottom left that you can sort of press once and then it'll switch into the format where it has one, two, three, four, five across the top.

And then when you're done, you can tap on ABC to go back.

But what's sometimes faster is if you hold your finger down, almost like you might hold it on a shift key, just for a second on a computer.

If you hold your finger down on the ABC one, two, three, et cetera key, as long as you're holding it down, like with your left thumb, with your right finger, you can just tap the numbers you want or whatever else.

And then when you lift your left thumb, you're snapped right back to the original keyboard with all the letters on it.

And that's one that when you get used to it, I just find it a lot faster than, I guess it's one less button press when you do it that way.

That's a good tip.

Another one that's in here, which is good.

And then I do use from time to time.

I will usually thumb type on my iPhone, just dot, dot, dot, dot with my thumbs.

But every once in a while, I use that slide to type feature where you sort of put your finger on the first letter and then slide to the second, to the third, to the fourth.

And I don't really have a rhyme or reason for when I do switch modes.

I like the fact that you can just switch modes, whenever you want.

You don't have to press any buttons to do it, just use it.

And sometimes if I'm typing more of a sentence, often if I'm gonna have a lot of text in like an email or something, and if nobody's around me, I will just use Siri and just dictate it.

But if I do have people around me, so I wanna put in a lot of words without people hearing me, sometimes I find that swipe is faster to enter multiple words than just regular old thumb typing.

So it just depends, but I mean, it's nice to have features like this in your back pocket, just so that you can use them when you want to. - Jeff, do you remember the time when we used to have like multiple type of keyboards, not switching between the letters and the numbers, you know, keyboard, but there's a globe icon down there, right? - Yeah, I still do that.

I switch between keyboards, yeah. - Now, I think this was originally designed for like switching between an English keyboard or a Spanish keyboard or a French keyboard, right? - Right, right, right. - You wanna change those.

Do you have any of these others now?

I still only have the text expander keyboard in there.

And I don't know that a lot of people may have that, but you know, this is an app that will expand out snippets.

I used to have three or four others, and I'm trying to think there used to be several others that were in there.

But if you tap and hold on that little global icon, that's where you can also, another one of these tips from this article you linked to, that you can shove the keyboard, you know, to the right or left if you just wanted to use one hand.

What other keyboards do you have in that list down there? - Right now, I only have text expander in there.

There have been times where I have, for various reasons in my life, have been involved in something like a different language, like the Russian language or something like that.

And just by having the Russian keyboard on there, it was just so much faster to put in those characters because of course you can do it.

Again, I'm not often doing that, but there have been times where I've had to use something like that.

The text expander one is nice.

I normally don't use the text expander keyboard, but the one thing that I do like about it is I have a couple of snippets that I primarily use on my computers.

I extensively use them on computers, but every once in a while I'll use it on the iPhone.

And one example I have, and it's a really simple one, is to paste something in a pure text format without formatting.

So I may copy something on the internet in Safari, and then I want to paste it into an email, but I don't want it to carry with it the formatting, the bolds and the font size and the font type and everything else.

I just want the words.

And so I have a very simple little text expander.

I mean, it's the most simple text expander snippet you could have that when I type on the XXC, and I only pick those letters 'cause they're next to each other, and I would never otherwise type those three letters together.

When I type XXC on any computer, my PC at my office, my Mac at home, or when I'm in this special keyboard on my iPhone, it will take whatever's on my clipboard and it will paste just the text of it.

And so I just find sometimes when I'm on my iPhone, and like I just said, I want to take some text and paste it without the rich formatting.

That's just a fast way to do it.

There's one or two other snippets I'll sometimes use too.

I don't use it a lot, but I do use it.

And I mean, I probably switch over to the text expander keyboard, I would say at least once a week, maybe not more than once a week, but enough that I do appreciate it being there. - If you tap and hold on the little globe icon, if you do have that globe icon there, I don't think it shows up unless you actually have like maybe an extra keyboard.

If you tap and hold, then you can switch between those instead of just tapping it.

But if you tap and hold the globe icon, and at the top now, it will even jump you to keyboard settings, right?

So if you're kind of trying to figure out what we're talking about here, if you tap and hold on the globe icon, tap keyboard settings, you can see that if you tap at the very top, it'll go keyboards, and this is where you can add or remove the keyboards.

The only other add new keyboard that I have available there, Jeff, is Fintastical, which I don't know, I've never used that as a keyboard, but anyway, just interesting to kind of figure out maybe that's something else to look at in there.

And you can actually quickly go to your emoji keyboard there too, although most of the time we have a smiley face emoji next to the space bar, right?

That's what I usually type to go to the emoji keyboard.

And there's other different ways in there.

But anyway, just some really good things to remind yourselves about.

Different tips for typing on your iPhone.

I mentioned my AirPods Pro, and I had to go and look at my settings for my AirPods Pro this morning, thanks to the article that you linked to about Apple confirming that there is a software update, or we usually call it a firmware update, right?

Although it's kind of, they overlap there quite a bit.

But anyway, it's well known, we've talked about this several times, that every once in a while, Apple will release an update for the AirPods.

And the good news is you don't really have to do anything.

Eventually, at some point, maybe, perhaps down the road, it will actually update for you.

And anyway, it's just kind of good, and I'm glad that it sounds like this was some kind of a Bluetooth hack that they are also getting around.

So it's worthwhile to make sure, and if you wanted to go and check, if you have updated, then this link that you linked to, Jeff, will make sure people know where to go. - Yeah, when you checked this morning, Brett, were you up to date already? - I was, yeah. - Yeah, me too.

So it actually, I mean, I think this one just came out a few days ago.

And so it actually, you know, it was, were just two anecdotal examples, but it looked like it did get rolled out successfully.

So, I mean, the bug itself seems a little esoteric.

Some hacker, you know, taking over my AirPods.

It's hard for me to imagine some hacker, you know, taking the trouble of saying, "Aha, Jeff will not be listening to his podcast.

Now he's gonna listen to my voice." (laughing) I don't know how often that happens. - You're gonna get rip-rolled.

It could be a good rip-roll, you know. - It could be a good rip-roll, that's a fair point.

So, but I mean, again, I certainly don't want, even though I think it's a little crazy that a hacker would want to do that to me.

Why not make it safer?

So, I do like that even these devices that you, like you say, you don't normally think of them having software on them, but they do have some internal software, the firmware.

And I'm glad that Apple has the ability to push out these updates and to give them the security updates that they need. - Easy to use, from AirPods Pro to the Vision OS, the Vision Pro.

Interesting story here from Dan Moore that you linked to.

Perhaps the next device that could be using the Vision OS.

Kind of interesting here.

Always enjoy, you know, seeing what Dan's thinking about a lot of times. - My guess, I think the reason that he probably wrote this story is, you and I don't talk about rumors terribly often on the podcast, but you know, there have been some rumors in the last week or two of, and I forget who started it, but somebody saying, "Oh, Apple's not gonna, you know, they were gonna make a second generation Apple Vision Pro and they've abandoned those efforts.

And now they're gonna do something else."

And I mean, first of all, these people don't know what they're talking about.

I mean, they're trying to piece together tea leaves from, you know, people, you know, so the chance of these being correct are very small percentages.

Having said that, if what you're telling me is when Apple comes out with their next Vision OS device, they don't want it to be what they're currently selling, which is a very expensive high-end product, but instead they want it to be a lower cost product.

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

I think that's exactly what Apple wants.

You know, the first time that Apple has come out with so many of its products, you know, the first generation is often, you know, more expensive and everything else.

And then over time they wanna, you know, slim it down.

You know, I've heard so many people speculate, for example, that the Vision Pro, when I'm wearing it, if somebody walks towards me, they can actually see on the outside of the goggles, you know, a little representation of my eyes if I'm looking at them.

It's an interesting feature that I suspect that Apple and its labs thought that they had to put on the first generation to try to make people aware that you're still part of the environment.

But frankly, it's not necessary.

I mean, perhaps it's silly to call it eye candy, ha ha ha, but I mean, it's really not, I don't think it's necessary.

And I don't know how much money goes into that screen that faces the front, but I could definitely see them taking that away.

But of course, what I really hope that they do is not only decrease the price, but also make it lighter and stuff like that too.

And so what, you know, Dan is talking about in this article, what he sort of talks, you know, on a Vision Pro, you know, an SE version, that, you know, they may not literally call it an SE, but, you know, Apple has the SE for the Apple Watch and the iPhone, it's sort of a stripped down, less expensive, less features, but more popular, hopefully, version of it.

And I absolutely hope that they are doing that with the Apple Vision Pro.

They, you know, take what they've learned, you know, figure out ways to make them less expensive, take out some features that aren't quite perhaps necessary, but get it in more people's hands.

So, you know, ultimately I suspect that they will be doing some of these things, and he has some good ideas for how they can do that. - In your eternal quest to find additional content for your Vision Pro for you to watch, I like that you linked to today to this, we've talked about the Juno YouTube app.

I think Max Stories reported this, you know, a while back and talking about, there's no native YouTube app for the Vision OS for the Vision Pro right now, but this Juno app looks like it's been doing pretty good, but you gotta have the content on YouTube as well, right? - Yeah, the, you know, when, out of the box, the Apple Vision Pro, you can go to YouTube in the Safari web browser and you can watch a video there, and that works perfectly fine.

And you can even make your web browser bigger or smaller to change the size of it, but there wasn't just sort of a dedicated app.

And so one of the ones that I bought, it was five bucks, was this app called Juno, which basically just, you know, puts a little wrapper around YouTube and allows you to have a separate app to watch YouTube stuff.

I find it, I found it to be a little buggy, would often crash, but I did use it sometimes, but you know, I just don't watch a lot of YouTube content on my Apple Vision Pro.

So then I sort of had set Juno aside for a few weeks until it was just this week, maybe even just yesterday, that they came out with this new version of it, which supports 360 degree videos.

And I'm like, well, this is interesting, because as you said, Brett, you know, I'm always looking for more immersive video.

The stuff that Apple has released is so good.

And for me, the big, the big thing that this taught me when I was playing with it last night is that although there is 360 degree content on YouTube, you know, it doesn't compare.

I mean, I didn't realize how good the Apple stuff was until I saw this and I'm like, oh, this is what people have been looking at so far.

Because if this is what you think 360 content is, boy, you do not know.

I mean, the Apple stuff is so much better.

The, I mean, when you're looking at this Apple stuff, you feel like it's, you're there.

I mean, it is so realistic.

It's so crisp.

It's so high quality that, you know, you are honestly tricked into thinking you're there.

This stuff on the other hand, it almost feels like, I know technically some of it's 4K, but of course it's 4K with the whole thing around you.

It almost feels like you're watching old standard definition content.

It's grainy.

But you know, if you're gonna put that aside, if you're gonna say, fine, it's not gonna look realistic.

It's gonna be what it is.

A lot of it's more cartoony than anything else.

Is there something, you know, you can still have interesting content that's 360.

So I'm glad that the Juno app is available.

I linked to one little silly show called Teleport, what is it?

Teleportaled. - Teleportaled, yeah. - Which is something I found, it's something like a five minute video.

And it's just, you know, it's a little comedy sci-fi sort of thing.

I mean, it's worth watching.

You can watch it just on your regular screen if you want, and you just have to manually scroll around.

But when I watched it in my Vision Pro, it was fun that, you know, as I'm, you know, watching this short little story, you know, I could follow the characters and turn my head and see around and the quality of it wasn't great, but the humor still worked.

That was interesting.

So I may play around with this some more, and then I suspect I'll get bored with it again, put it to the side.

But you know, someday, I mean, of course this is gonna all change.

Someday I'm sure that YouTube will have 360 content that is 12K or 15K, you know, whatever it is.

It'll be such high quality and take a lot of bandwidth too, but it'll be such high quality that then everybody, you know, whether you're using an Apple device or maybe the Facebook stuff, maybe the MetaQuest will be even better by then, you know, maybe some of these other devices that are also have high quality can take advantage of it.

And that'd be great.

So, I mean, I would love to have, just like YouTube is a central clearing house for great 2D content right now, maybe one day it will also have lots of great 3D, 360 degree content on it.

So anyway, if you happen to have an Apple Vision Pro, check out the Juno app if you wanna see what some of the stuff looks like.

It's a little interesting, so. - It just is gonna take time for the content to catch up with the hardware then at this point, which is kind of silly.

I mean, I feel like sometimes the content has been there and the, you know, the devices.

Anyway, like you say, it's only a matter of time.

It's gonna catch up.

And I think leading it, of course.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead. - Yeah, I was gonna say one more thing on that.

When we watched the Apple keynote, how many weeks ago?

Here's a few weeks ago.

There was, you know, sometimes when I'm watching something streaming on my device, I will see something and I'll quickly take a screenshot.

It was like, oh, I might wanna go back and look at that again in the future.

And I took a screenshot of this one part where they had some of the immersive content for the Apple Vision Pro.

And as I'm looking at it again right now on my iPad, some things on here has been out for a while, like Alicia Keys rehearsal room in the parkour adventure.

But I'm also seeing on here wildlife rhinos that has not been released yet, elevated in Maine that has not been released yet, something called submerged adventure ice diving, some concerts for one.

When I say elevated, I think what this is is a series of like drone footage that like from the top.

So there's that one that I just mentioned for Maine.

There's one for Hawaii.

There's something called wildlife sharks.

There is of course the MLS cup highlights.

We know that they're gonna be doing some soccer stuff.

Something with hot air balloons, something with the weekend, the band, some Red Bull thing.

So I took the screenshot 'cause I'm like, wow, there's a lot of content right here. - Where is all this? - Only like five of these are around right now and they've got like 25 on the screen.

So at least if Apple is putting it on a video, there must be confident enough that it's coming soon.

And some of these we've actually seen a little previews of in some of their teaser videos.

So anyway, that's an example of, we know Apple has more stuff coming out soon.

I just wish that each one of those little pictures had like a release date on it.

You know, this one's coming in July.

This one's coming in August.

But instead, maybe some of this stuff is coming in 2029.

Who knows?

But I guess eventually, anyway. - Well, for those of us that are still on 2D content, this was a good article here from Macworld, but I mean, you were going into some other details in your post today, which is good, about all of the shows, the upcoming shows that you are excited about for Apple TV+.

And by the way, just in case, you know, when we say Apple TV+, we're talking about the streaming service, right?

The service that is providing a lot of movies and, you know, short content and series, which as you know, if you've been listening, Jeff and I are pretty big fans of the content that they're putting out here.

But man, there's even some good stuff.

As much as I'm excited about the 3D content that you're talking about, Jeff, for the Vision Pro, I'm very excited about Apple TV+ as well. - It is.

And it could not come at a better time because we're at a stage right now where it amazes me that some of the traditional powerhouses, like example number one is HBO.

My entire life, I grew up with HBO being the premium channel.

I mean, it was the premium cable channel in the '80s and then in the '90s and the 2000s.

I mean, so much great content.

It was almost like if HBO had it, it was gonna be good.

And through, you know, again, I'm not a business person, but, you know, even as an outsider, it seems obvious to me that what has happened with Max and Warner Brothers and HBO, they have given up some of the shine that used to be HBO.

And it's not just them.

I mean, Showtime on Paramount, I mean, I think they're shutting down the Showtime brand or something like that.

I mean, all of this stuff, Paramount Plus, it's such a state of chaos in the streaming world right now that it's nice to see at least one company, Apple, that is just chugging along, coming out with great content, and it gets better and better and better.

And not every one of their shows is great.

There was one, in fact, there was a show that my wife and I, we watched the entire series 'cause we wanted to see it to the end, but it was called "Sugar."

I don't know if you've seen that one.

It's impossible to describe because there's a twist in it that I don't want to give away, but I will just say that I enjoyed it, but the way it ended, I don't know if I liked the ending.

I guess I would sort of recommend it 'cause I enjoyed the ride, but that is an example of Apple tried something, whatever.

I mean, it was okay.

But they have so many other things that have not been whatever, that have been actually really, really, really good, whether it be "Dark Matter" or "Trying," which has been around for a while.

So that's why this is a fun list.

You know, I have to, you know, because of the legal background, you and I have read "The Presumed Innocent One."

I mean, gosh, when I was- - I know. - When I was in college, going into law school, I loved that John Grisham book, and then the movie came out and it was so good.

And so like, as I started law school, 'cause I started law school in 1991, in the early '90s, you know, "Presumed Innocent" could not have been more on my mind.

And then some of the other follow-up books too that he had, like, in fact, "The Pelican Brief" was especially interesting for me because that took place in DC, and I was in law school at Georgetown.

It also had to do with Tulane Law School in New Orleans.

And so like, it was just all of my worlds were coming together. - No way, right. - So all of those John Grisham books were great, but "Presumed Innocent" especially, I have not started the TV show yet.

Maybe I'll start it tonight.

My wife and I are trying to find a time that we can both watch it together 'cause we both wanna see it.

And that's just what's available now.

So to get to this list that you were talking about, there's so many good things coming out. - I know. - Not only the movies. - I'm barely listening to you because I'm getting so excited about this list. - There's so much.

(Jeff laughs) - Yeah, I mean, this "Lady and the Lake" thing with Natalie Portman looks really good. - Yeah. - I mean, "Time Bandits" is funny to me because "Time Bandits" was almost like a silly 1980s movies that was by some of the people that were behind Monty Python's "Flying Circus" and Gillian, stuff like that.

And so there's gonna be a version of that that's gonna have Jemaine Clement, who is one of the guys from "Flight of the Conchords" and is involved in a bunch of other stuff.

Lisa Kudrow's gonna be starring in it.

I always pronounce this name wrong.

Taika Waititi, who's been in all sorts of funny stuff, is involved.

I mean, that's gonna be great.

This "Woman in Blue" show looks really interesting.

The "Instigators" with Matt Damon and Casey Affleck, that could be really good.

You and I talked a couple of weeks ago about "Bad Monkey," which is gonna have Bill Lawrence, who's behind "Scrubs" and so many other shows, Ted Lasso.

And if he's behind it and when it's starring Vince Vaughn, you know that's gonna has the potential to be really good. - Exactly. - And then just as- - But "Wolves," look at this. - Oh my goodness, I mean, could there be- - I feel like if you're a premier Hollywood actor right now, the goal is to land an Apple TV+ show of some kind, right, Jeff? - Yeah. - I mean, it just seems like, I mean, "Wolves," I mean, this is Brad Pitt and George Clooney for crying out loud.

I mean, it's like all of the names are coming out here. - And it's not just those two, but it looks like it's those two being wise acres, you know, sort of half funny, half drama.

This is what these people are made for, right?

So again, it could be bad, it could be good, but it has the potential to be really, really good.

And there's just so much of this.

It's like every week it's coming out.

So to return to where we started, I'm so glad that Apple TV+ is doing so well.

I think, you know, especially those of us that live in the Apple universe, because we use iPhones and iPads and Apple TVs, it's so nice to have 'cause you can get- - Oh my goodness. - Part of the bundle and stuff like that.

But I know that they are a small player and that a lot of people don't have Apple TV+ yet.

And those people, I'm sure, don't listen to this podcast, of course, but, you know, spread the word because there's some great stuff out there.

And if people are looking for some good stuff to watch, I mean, not that there isn't things on Netflix and stuff like that too, but there's really, really good stuff coming out. - Jeff, "Neuromancer," they're putting the William Gibson novel.

I mean, this is where the cyberpunk came from way back in the day. - Absolutely, yeah. - There's no release date for this.

Come on, Apple TV+.

Give us some 3D content and release dates, you know?

We need this information on here.

That's great.

All right, so, okay, I know we've waxed on for this because we just are getting excited, but 'tis the season, right?

It's the summer season.

I think that's the way you even started off your post today.

It's like, it's the time to sit and enjoy a little bit of time on the couch and watch, even if it's 2D, that's fine.

But now, the other thing quickly, you just linked to, this is like Apple TV++++.

Now they're premiering original podcasts.

Man, it just keeps expanding, Jeff. - I know, and I'd love to announce that our podcast is not part of Apple TV+ as of right now, but we're available, Apple.

Feel free to come.

We have very, very reasonable prices if you would like to purchase this podcast.

So, but no, again, it's interesting.

And you know, people like Spotify and stuff have done this too.

I have mixed emotions to it because so much of my heart believes that podcasts are to be freely available to everyone, much like websites through RSS ought to be.

But of course, the reality is that some websites, many websites have paywalls.

You gotta pay for them.

And the same is true for podcasts.

And so if you're gonna have some premium podcasts that are only on Spotify or only somewhere else, why not have something that's only on Apple TV+.

You know, this particular show, what is it about?

It's a Mexican singer songwriter that goes back to her roots.

So I don't know that this particular show will necessarily appeal to me.

I don't know, maybe I'll check it out.

But you know, they're getting into the game.

And so we'll see if they spend some money on podcasts. - We'll see if it goes.

A couple of more stories quickly here.

If you have an Apple watch, you might wanna reconsider that tattoo sleeve that you've been thinking about. - Oh darn it, I was just about to do it, Brett. - I know Jeff, I'm so sorry.

You'll have to reconsider.

Well, what I loved about this story, first of all, that is the headline here.

There are drastic steps that you can take if your tattoo is hampering your Apple watch.

So apparently this gentleman here had a tattoo sleeve and he found that, I think it's the colors, right?

And the tattoo were interfering with the Apple watch being able to take his vitals, right?

Or because what it's doing a lot of times, if I'm not mistaken, is that the lights on the bottom of the Apple watch are actually shining to see your blood vessels.

Isn't that something? - That's exactly right, yep, yep. - Okay, something along those lines.

So if you have a tattoo sleeve that would be under the Apple watch on your skin, apparently it could cause some interference.

And what I truly even loved about this article- - This is the reason to look at this article. - Here is the way that you can get around that.

You can still have a tattoo, but just trace the shape of your Apple watch on your arm.

And then I'm sure any tattoo parlor will be happy to kind of laser etch the tattoo just for the shape of your Apple watch.

What a wonderful story this was. - I know many more people listen to this podcast for audio than watch the YouTube video.

But if you're gonna watch the YouTube video, this is the reason to watch because it's very funny to look at this guy's arm where they have traced the outline of an Apple watch and they are lasering the video.

Even if you just watch that 10 seconds, it's worth watching. - Right, it's worth it.

And I guess it works, right?

To the end of the story.

I mean, it's a happy ending here, right?

Well, speaking of the Apple watch, once you do get that laser etched tattoo off so that your Apple watch works again, this is another good little article you link to Jeff.

Your new, the favorite new minimal Apple watch face, not yours, but this was interesting from Zach Hall at 9to5Mac.

I don't know that I would like this 'cause I prefer filling up the entire space on my Apple watch with as much information as possible.

But if you're on the minimalist side, this is an interesting idea from Zach Hall here. - Well, you know, the nice thing about the Apple watch is that you can change the watch face so easily.

And although normally I'm like you, Brad, I like to have some good information that's useful to me.

Sometimes I will be like out at a party or something like that.

And I just want to put something interesting looking on my Apple watch, just because my watch face is always on the model of Apple watch that I have.

And so I will be putting something on there, not necessarily because I'm going to personally be using it, but it's just sort of like a fashion thing.

Like just what is my watch going to look like right now?

And in those circumstances, I might, I mean, normally, for example, I use a digital display, but in those circumstances, I might switch to this white face right here, which has one of an analog display, just 'cause it looks a little bit more professional.

So the one that Zach Hall shows in this post, it's the same thing.

It's not, it's less usable because two thirds of the watch face is blank, but it does have a certain style to it.

I mean, I'm not saying I'm not, you can have your own subjective opinion as to whether you do or don't like the style, but it's a very minimal watch face.

And the way that he achieves this effect is he's using the photos watch face, but he's having a completely black image for the photo.

So, so much of the watch face that normally would have your dog's picture or a picture of a mountain or whatever, or a picture of a family member, it's just completely black and blank, and then just has the time to the left.

So when I first saw this, I mean, like, wow, you can do that on an Apple Watch?

And, and yeah, you could.

It's, it's interesting that we don't have the ability to truly customize watch faces, and yet you can sort of hack the current limited options in ways to come up with something interesting.

So, so bravo, I like this. - You know, I, again, similar to, I think what we were talking about earlier, like I get something that works for me and then I just leave it, and I don't really, I don't really explore very much.

I know I've got a variety of watch faces that I can swipe back and forth on my Apple Watch, you know, and select and change from, but I rarely ever do that, Jeff.

I don't know why, I like your approach.

It's like, hey, if you're at a party, you know, or you mentioned that, you know, in some cases, if it's around Mardi Gras time, you have a Mardi Gras watch face that you change into, or, you know, if you're at your daughter's basketball game, you change your watch face into the colors of the sports team.

You know, I don't know.

I just, I don't swap back and forth all that much 'cause I have one that I kind of get used to, and, you know, I like the way it looks.

I know exactly where I need to look for the information that I need.

So anyway, I feel like I'm not taking the full advantage of that, that you can swap back and forth, but the fact that you can customize it, I just don't think about that very often.

So I'm always excited when you link to stories like this, because I think it's interesting. - We talked about this a few months ago, Brett, that there was a recent change.

I want to say it was in the last version of Watch OS that they brought back the feature, and you have to turn it on, that you can just swipe your finger across the face to switch.

And I like that feature, and I have it back there, because like you say, I actually do switch my watch face quite a bit.

I have the normal one that I use with some information on it, but I have another one that's got lots of weather information.

I've got the one that I just showed that's analog.

I've got like the Snoopy one, which although it's very silly and I never keep it on for a long period of time, sometimes in the weekend, it just makes me smile.

And so I actually, you know, and another one I've mentioned before is this one that has the super, super big numbers on it that if I'm outside, I forget what Apple calls that one, but if it's super bright outside, and yet I still want to be able to glance down and see the time, it's got no complications.

It's just got the big numbers on it.

And I like that one.

So I mean, I actually, I mean, there's at least a half a dozen watch faces that I do use regularly, and a whole bunch of other ones that I switch to from time to time.

So I do like different watch faces. - I remember when that Snoopy watch face came out, I went and showed it to my wife, and I'm like, I think you're going to enjoy this, you know, just try it and see.

And she hasn't changed it back.

Jeff, it's like, she loves it so much.

And then she still giggles at it because that is such a unique, unique watch face.

We talked about it when it came out.

Like, it's not just, you know, one little animation.

I mean, it's a variety of animations, dozens and dozens of animations.

And so every, she just loves every time that she, you know, looks at the watch, it's like a different little Snoopy and what's like her doing something a little bit different.

And it just, it just gives her a little, a little tiny pleasure throughout the day, which is nice.

Speaking of customizing interfaces, now that you do the Apple watch, here's our last story today, which I think is great.

I don't even know this company.

I think they're a design company.

I think it's called Black Box, right?

They know that Apple announced, 'cause we talked about this too, that CarPlay is going to be not just the little box that we know may be on the side of your screen, but you, there are going to be some vehicles, hopefully still, that will allow you CarPlay to show across the entire dashboard.

In other words, it can take over the entire dashboard.

One time I was in a rental car, not too long ago, a few months ago, Jeff, and we did this and it was spectacular.

I loved it.

And like, I've been wanting to get back to that, but you know, that takes a lot of, of inspiration on the car manufacturer, I think to actually do that because they like to have their own, but what a fascinating little story and video that you link to here today. - Yeah, what they did in this article is they found all of these, you know, custom, not custom, all of these notable car interfaces for, you know, cars, you know, Porsche 911 and other cars that people know of that have these very distinctive designs.

And then they have reproduced, not a hundred percent, but you know, 90% of the way there, using the CarPlay interface, enough to like, if you like this look, you can do something very similar with this interface.

And I think that it's really cool what they've done.

Until I saw this video and the pictures and the web article that goes along with it, I did not realize that you could have so many different looks in CarPlay.

And on the one hand, it makes me excited 'cause it's like, wow, this would be pretty cool if I could play around with some of the stuff in my own car.

At the same time, I know that at least from my car interface, I'll probably just stick one thing and stick with it so that things are familiar where I know where they are.

But I know that my son, on the other hand, he would love the ability to change all this stuff.

And yet at the same time, I have to admit that when I see how different interfaces can be, it reminds me why I suspect many car manufacturers are reluctant to give up this control to Apple because they may think, you know, for my car model, XYZ, I, the manufacturer of the car, want to control what that dashboard looks like so that it is the uniconic look that people will say sit with me, versus if you totally give up control to Apple, then your car by definition will never have an iconic look to it for its dashboard because there will be no look because people are controlling it themselves.

So, you know, it's an interesting, I don't know what the right or wrong answer is on that.

And I understand why they're having some pushback, but for those cars that do decide to go the Apple way, this is sort of interesting that it shows the exciting possibilities. - I didn't get to watch the entire video, but just the little bit that I did, if you're at all interested in anything from like a designed interface, you know, and instructional approach, it's fascinating.

Like just to understand, like from, I mean, we're talking about dashboards that are like years ago, right?

In the 80s and saying so.

And so just kind of having a thought process of what goes in and how it's designed and even the font phases and stuff, just really fascinating on some of this and a little bit of a walk down memory lane too, which is kind of fun.

I think this is one of my favorite, I put it in my background here.

This is the Corvette option that they had, the Corvette C4 from 1984, which at the time was just so futuristic looking, right?

We didn't see anything like a digital dashboard, I think when that came out, you know, it's still just really unique.

Anyway, it's just a fun little video.

So thanks for linking to that today.

Appreciate that.

In the know. - In the know. - I got a quick bonus one here.

This was my Father's Day gift, Jeff.

I wanted to show everybody.

And in fact, I'm drinking my coffee from it today.

(Jeff laughing) If you've got somebody in your life that is a Lego fanatic, you know, and I grew up, I'm sure the same as you did, Jeff, with helping your kids understand the importance of Lego, this was my Father's Day gift, a Lego upscaled mug.

I like that.

It literally is like the old coffee mugs that the Lego people use, the little Lego people, just upscaled so that I could actually drink my coffee out of my own, very own Lego mug. - I love this.

If I remember correctly, Brett, a year or two ago, your pick of the week was another coffee mug that your kids had gotten you.

And it was like some futuristic Bluetooth, it controls temperature.

Yeah, what's the manufacturer of that? - That was the Ember, the Ember mug. - The Ember.

So that was like one end of technology was the high tech, exciting.

And then today we go to the other extreme, to the children's coffee mug that you use when you play with your Lego characters.

I love that you go the range, Brett. - I have a child inside. - There you go.

Sometimes you have that childlike innocence and sometimes, this coffee mug is funny because it really does look exactly like the ones that the little Lego characters would hold. - The little Lego people. - Little mini figs and stuff like that.

Oh, I miss the days when my kids were really into Lego and used to play with this stuff 'cause I have to admit, it was sort of fun for me too to play with them. - I'll send you a Lego mug, Jeff, okay? - There you go. - All right, so my real tip for the day though, I was at a conference last week and I was just flabbergasted that I did not know that this tip existed.

You're at a conference, you're shaking hands, you're doing networking, you're handing physical business cards.

And I guess I was trying to do this to one person that was quite a bit younger than I was and they just kind of looked at me like, "I don't want your business card.

Let's just connect over LinkedIn."

And I'm like, "Oh, okay.

Do you want me to email you my LinkedIn profile or I'll look you up on LinkedIn?"

And he's like, "No, just pull up your app, your LinkedIn app," 'cause I had my phone obviously in my hand.

And I went into my LinkedIn app and if you tap at the very top, there's a search bar at the very top of your LinkedIn app.

And when you tap in there, to the right of that little search box, there is a little tiny QR code symbol. - Oh yeah, look at that, there is. - Tap on that QR symbol right there and what happens is, is that it actually brings up a QR code that somebody else can just scan on their phone and it takes them right to your LinkedIn profile. - Wow. - I know.

And there's also, if you look at the top of this, once you tap into that QR code, there is two tabs at the top.

One says my code and that's where the QR code and the other is scan.

Now, exactly, there you go.

So people can scan that.

Now, if you tap on scan, that will open up your camera.

And so if you haven't given LinkedIn the permission to access your camera, it'll ask you for that.

But you can just tap scan right there and scan that QR code.

But even if you're not in the LinkedIn app to scan, you can just use the camera app on iOS or Android.

And here is the link, I'll make sure it's in the show notes.

It's both, it works on both the iOS app and the Android app.

It was just such a brilliant way, you know, it's such a quick way, Jeff, that today, this is like an easier way to do networking.

And even if you do hand a business card, at some point, you wanna connect with somebody over LinkedIn and it was just such a brilliant way.

I started doing this with everybody.

I'm like, hey, let me scan your LinkedIn code.

And here's mine.

And it was just a much, much easier way.

You know, there are a myriad of apps that we've talked about, Jeff, in the past, you know, that give you a LinkedIn, you can, you know, sort of send somebody like your business card, or you can, you know, immediately send somebody your contact.

And of course, with Apple devices, you can tap today and you can share your contact.

But just that LinkedIn component, if that's what you're doing from a networking aspect, you know, so people can follow you and see what's going on.

This was just a beautiful little tip that I thought I wanted to share with everyone today. - I had no idea that you could do this.

And I'm so glad that you shared it, because like you say, there are many ways to share contact information.

And I have even seen over the years, many, many, many like third-party apps that purport to do something similar.

But like the other person's not gonna have the app and everything else.

It's just sort of, but this is good. - That's it, exactly. - Because the type of people that I am likely to want to share a business card with, sort of by definition, that is the circle of people that are really likely to be on LinkedIn.

For me, it's gonna often be other attorneys.

It's going to be some clients.

It's gonna be some witnesses, expert witnesses.

You know, that universe of people, I suspect that they're all on LinkedIn.

And so even if they don't have the app, they certainly understand what a LinkedIn contact is.

And so like you say, you know, from their standpoint, they can either use the LinkedIn app to scan it, or they could just use the regular camera on the iPhone.

So this is really cool.

I'm gonna use this. - And by the way, you can, there's a couple of options there.

You can share the codes.

You can text it to somebody if you needed to.

So if they're not scanning it right there, and then you can also save it to photos.

So it's a good way to save it to photos.

You can post it into like a PowerPoint slide or something like that, right?

So people in the audience can do that. - What a clever idea.

Yeah, I know.

I'm gonna start doing this because, and again, to your point to underscore that again, you know, the iPhone share your contact is really cool.

I love doing that.

But what if the other person doesn't have an iPhone, right?

They have an Android.

In other words, it seems like LinkedIn is sort of a low common denominator.

So you don't have to worry about which app do you have?

What kind of a phone do you have?

That kind of a thing.

It's like, if everybody's gonna have LinkedIn typically in a professional networking system, then it's just a great way to be able to share that really quickly. - Very cool.

Very cool.

Okay, so my app is, my tip of the week is, it's gonna sound a little bizarre and to a certain degree, it's sort of like a bar bet type thing, but there actually is a useful tip here at the very end.

And so my tip has to do, of course, Brett, with the year 1582.

1582.

Do you remember what you were doing back in 1582? - Lovely year. - Here's my tip.

If you want to go on your calendar to the year 1582, if you use the built-in Apple calendar app, you can scroll, like you can go to years, you can scroll, but it's gonna take you a long time to scroll, right? - Okay. - You use Fantastical on your iPhone, don't you, Brett? - I do, yes. - Okay, so I'm gonna ask you to do this right now.

Open up the Fantastical app.

And one of the things I like about Fantastical is if you press your finger and at the very top, like mine says June 2024 at the top, if I press and hold down on that for just a second or two, a little date scroll wheel comes up.

Did that just happen for you? - I'm sorry, where am I holding it down again? - So at the very top of my, the top left of my screen where it says June 2024, and I'm just looking at calendar.

If you just hold your finger down on the words June 2024, you'll have a little date thing.

And from there you can scroll the year and you can actually scroll pretty quickly.

I find that this is a very quick way to go back in dates.

And so if I ask you to go all the way back to the year 1582. - I'm in the 1600s.

Okay, here we go. - So if you go all the way back to 1582, which takes a little while to do.

And I find that when I use your urine, and then once you're in the year 1582 for your month, change your month, you can leave the day, whatever you want, but change the month to be October.

So you want to be October 1582.

And then once you're there, hit done at the top, right?

Now I find when I do this in Fantastical, sometimes it works immediately and it did for me just now, but sometimes it won't, and I'll have to do it a second time.

And it always works the second time for me.

Did yours work the first time?

Are you in October 1582 right now? - I am, yes. - Okay, do you notice at the top of the day, so Monday was the first, right?

Tuesday the second, Wednesday the third, Thursday the fourth.

And then what comes after Thursday, October 4th? - Thursday, oh, let me. - And then it goes- - Oh, hello. - It goes from Thursday, October 4th- - I'm skipping. - To Friday, October 15th.

And I'm like, what? - Yes. - Why did we just skip 11 days?

And so this is the silly little- - How did we miss those days? - You know, what exactly, what happened all those days?

So here's the little funny historical thing.

I put, and I have a link to this in the show notes today, but there's a Wikipedia page that talks about the transition in calendars.

You know, way, way, way back when, we used to have the Roman calendar, started I think by Romulus first.

And the Roman calendar was interesting because it was like 10 months long.

Sometimes different Roman leaders would just declare a year to be longer or shorter.

Like if they wanted some of their friends to stay in office even longer, they would just declare the calendar to be longer or shorter.

So then that was changed by Julius Caesar who came with the Julian calendar.

And the Julian calendar was the first calendar that accounted for leap days by saying that every four years we would have this extra day in February.

And that was fine, but the Julian calendar got off over time.

And so after hundreds and hundreds of years, we got to the point where days that people would traditionally associate of being like a spring day, you were still back in the winter or something like that.

And so the Gregorian character calendar, as this Wikipedia page shows us, which was brought about by the Pope Gregory, I believe, it went into effect in October, 1582.

And when it went into effect, one of the first things it did was it corrected for the fact that for the last hundreds of years, our calendar had gotten off so that like we were sort of, we weren't keeping up with the sun, so to speak.

And so they just declared that it went from October 4th to October 15th back in 1582.

And that's why your iPhone correctly shows that, that it goes from October 4th to October.

And the Gregorian calendar was adopted almost immediately in countries like France and Spain.

It wasn't adopted until like the 1700s in England.

And in fact, there's some country, if you scroll to the bottom of this Wikipedia page, I wanna say like Saudi Arabia or something like that adopted it like eight years ago or something.

Some countries have been a little late to the calendar, but most people had adopted it.

And so it's sort of like an interesting history lesson.

So that, okay, so this is my little, if you wanna just sort of show something, somebody's bizarre, go to October of 1582 in the calendar and they will see that leap in dates.

The real reason besides the fact that that's sort of an interesting history lesson, what I think is interesting about this particular tip though is I will sometimes want to jump to an old date in my calendar.

And although I'm typically not going back to the 1500s, I'm typically going back to like the 1990s or something.

But I find that when I want to jump dates, I find it to be a little bit slower to do it using the built-in calendar app.

I find that Fantastical because of that scroll wheel that you and I just used is a real fast way to go specifically to a month in a day.

I, in the 1990s, I had an electronic device and in the late 90s, I was using a Palm III.

And even in the early 90s, I was using a device.

I don't have a lot of stuff in my calendar back then, but once we get into the 2000s, I actually do have a calendar.

And so sometimes, a lot in my calendar that, from various devices that have over time now showed up my iPhone.

And so there will be times where I'll be like, what were we doing 20, 25 years ago?

When did we take that trip to go someplace or when did something happen?

And so I will want to scroll back.

And so one of the reasons that Fantastical is a nice app is it has that nice feature and other third-party apps do as well.

But even if you don't have a third-party feature, you can always use the built-in calendar to go back and sort of recreate dates.

So whether you're going back to something that you did 20 years ago, or whether you are looking at the skip of 11 days because of the Gregorian calendar in 1582, that is my tip of the day, is changing to different dates from the past in the iPhone. - That's really good.

I mean, I will sometimes, probably most of the time, I use the built-in calendar app on my iPhone most of the time.

But I will switch over to the Fantastical 'cause I do like several features.

I don't know if that, if I was fully aware, of course, I haven't had many opportunities to need to scroll back to 1582, but this is really great that they're just little tweaks and things here that in Fantastical, I'm a subscriber because it really is just really cool to have some of the customization options and everything that's on there.

I am happy to say I didn't have anything that was prohibiting me on my calendar in October 15.

I didn't miss anything in those- - You didn't miss anything for that.

I'm glad to hear that. - No, I was glad to hear. - Good to hear. (laughing) That's good.

So Fantastical, I forget what the pricing is.

It seemed like I paid like $60 a year or something like that. - Yeah, I forget. - I think I actually got, I think the company is Flexibits, right?

I think I got a family account for us because we all just really enjoyed it and it's easy to work on that.

I can't remember the pricing components that they have right now, but anyway, Flexibits, I'll have a link in the show notes 'cause I think that's just really cool.

If you did wanna scroll all the way back to 1582, it's easier to do in Fantastical.

Thanks, Jeff, for that historical tip.

That is very important. - You're welcome. - Good talking with you, Jeff.

Always interesting to hear what's been going on this past week and we'll talk with you next week. - Thanks, Brad.