- Welcome to In The News for April 25th, 2025.

I am Brett Burney from appsinlaw.com. 

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhoneJD.

Hey, Brett. - Hello, Jeff.

Good to see you as always.

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But wanna say happy belated Earth Day because both you and I were texting this past week because it was Earth Day and Apple did a couple of additional things which was just a little fun.

What we're really talking about is our rings, our exercise rings, and really focusing on the Apple Watch which has turned 10 years old, which is amazing to me.

And in fact, we looked up your very first Apple Watch review, Jeff, on iPhoneJD from April 27, 2015, almost to the day 10 years ago, your first Apple Watch review.

And I feel like we haven't stopped looking back since. - I tell ya, let me start by correcting two mistakes I made on last week's podcast.

First of all, I mistakenly said, oh, the Apple Watch is around 15 years.

I was thinking of the iPad.

Of course, it's been 10 years.

Little did I know it's exactly 10 years.

It was 10 years ago, yeah, exactly.

And then also last week, we were talking about Apple's Closure Circle Promotions for this week.

And I was confused and I didn't realize until after our thing went live that there were two different promotions this week.

On Tuesday, it was Earth Day.

And so if you did like a 30 minute workout, you got a little special badge, which I did and you did too.

And we were sort of treating them. - Yeah, we shared them. - And then on, and that's something they do every year for Earth Day.

And then yesterday for the 10 year celebration of the Apple Watch, they had the Closure Circles thing.

And so that was another one that you got like a little award for.

But 10 years, I mean, it is been, it really is amazing that this product that has become so incredibly useful has been around for 10 years.

But what amazed me about that was I looked back at, and you had it up for a second, my original Apple Watch review from 10 years ago.

And that was an interesting review because I had used my Apple Watch for three days at that point.

I used it on Friday on a work day.

I used it on Saturday to sort of hang out, doing stuff with my kids who were much younger and cuter at the time.

And then I used it on Sunday to go to Jazz Fest, which is the same thing I did yesterday.

I played hooky from work yesterday and went to the first day of Jazz Fest, which we'll talk about in a second.

But so I had three different uses for it.

And even though, think back in time, 'cause you had that first Apple Watch too, Brett. - I did. - Apple Watch has advanced so much in 10 years.

It's so much faster and responsive and a better design.

And yet when I looked back at the review of a brand new product that I had used for just three days, the things that jumped out at me then were the exact same things as today.

I mean, I was talking about the fact that-- - Oh, really? - I thought that you would wanna use it with all of these apps, like the iPhone.

But the reality is, I think the best things, and of course, 10 years later, I totally agree, are just these quick little glances of information that you sort of glance down and see something, of course, the time and the date, but also just notifications from apps and stuff like that.

And so that was really cool.

I talked about fitness as being something I wanted to try out, but I hadn't done so yet.

And I remember I linked to something for Katie Floyd, who's an attorney in Florida, who had been the co-host of the power users.

No, 'cause she shut down her site when she became a judge.

But she had tried it out with fitness, and I hadn't done that yet, but I'm like, this might be something interesting.

And a lot of those initial users have really stayed the same, which is just interesting.

As even though, if I had to wear today the original Apple Watch, I would go crazy because it's so much slower and everything else and so limited in what it could do.

And yet a lot of those core features were the same, which is interesting because I remember when the Apple Watch was first introduced, it was first introduced, Brett, the same day that the iPhone 6 was introduced, which was an interesting iPhone because that was the first time that Apple did like a taller iPhone.

And at the time I was like, oh, is it gonna be too big?

And I remember thinking at the time that they had the 6 and the 6 Plus, and I'm like, that 6 Plus is so huge.

I can't imagine ever using it.

Of course, nowadays, the regular 16 is about the same size as the 6 Plus, and the 16 Pro Plus is even bigger.

So things change over time, but it's just sort of interesting.

So I thought it was interesting to walk down memory lane and think about it.

I love my Apple Watch, I use it for so much stuff.

It's just fantastic. - You even linked to another reviewer, Jason Snell, that we talk about a lot, and he wrote on his blog, Six Colors, about the Apple Watch turning 10 as well.

And just going through here, just thinking about the things, I think you even mentioned this in your post today about using Apple Pay on it, which I don't think we could have done in 2015.

He was talking about the watch face choices.

Oh, we could, oh, we did have it back then. - I'm gonna talk about that as my tip of the week, so let's put that in the slides for a second. - Okay, good, yeah.

He was talking about the watch face choices, which I thought was interesting here because we've talked about this before, and sometimes I feel like I go to the watch face inventory that you can do, and typically I'm doing it on my iPhone because I can see it, and sometimes I get overwhelmed.

I feel like there's so many, but Jason is saying that there is not enough, or maybe he's saying specifically, there's not enough options for people to be able to customize them.

And then one specific thing that he talked about here, maybe, or somewhere else, was even a face that has an active second hand, right?

Something like that, was that in here that he was talking about that as well?

Which I didn't really think about too much. - And what his complaint is on the second hand, and I think it's totally legitimate, is Apple, you know how your Apple Watch is in two modes?

Most Apple Watches, like this isn't true for things like the SE, but the top of the line Apple Watches have a mode that they're on when they're brighter, and they have some standby mode where the watch face is dimmed, much like modern iPhones, but even when the watch face is dimmed, you can still glance down and see the time and stuff like that.

Apple has now gotten to the point that even with the dimmed watch face, they refresh the watch face instead of 60 times a second, it's refreshed once per second, but refreshing it once per second is enough to do a second hand because a second hand moves every second.

And there are two, I believe, Apple Watch faces that do it, but none of the other ones.

And this is the thing, there are a ton of Apple Watch faces, and you can probably find one that fits your needs.

Like yesterday, for example, when I was at Jazz Fest, because it was bright outside, I always used the, I think it's called the numeral duo.

It's the one that, it's just huge numbers.

That's the whole watch face, no complications.

And so it's nice because even when it's really bright in the sun, I can still glance down and totally see my watch face and see the time.

So I love that one for that being outside bright.

Or the beach too, I use it at the beach sometimes too, for the same reason.

So there are lots of different cool watch faces, but you know that if third parties got involved, we'd have so much more.

And then even for the limited, somewhat limited list of watch faces that Apple provides, you know, they add things like the ability to have a moving second hand, but they only put it on one or two watch faces.

They don't put it on all of them.

I feel like Apple has like one guy responsible for all the watch faces and he's very busy.

I'm like, come on, hire somebody else, you know, get a friend because there's no reason why the built in watch faces.

I mean, you know that one of my long time complaints spread, and we've talked about this, is that you have that fabulous watch face for your watch, the modular Ultra, I think, yeah. - Exactly, the modular Ultra, which is fabulous 'cause it has so many complications.

It's totally nerdy. - It stays there. - I love it.

It was my favorite watch face when I used the Ultra.

And now I'm using the Apple Watch 10, which I love, but you can't use the Ultra.

And there's no good reason for that.

And you know, Apple, they really need to spend, you know, get some summer interns for goodness sakes and put them on the, you know, I wish they did more with the watch faces.

It's such a missed opportunity.

So I can praise the Apple Watch, I love it so much.

And yet, believe me, there's things that I wish that they did better. - Another thing we've talked about the Apple Watch a lot is about sleeping with the Apple Watch.

And by this we mean, of course, putting it on while you sleep so it can track your sleeping.

And I guess maybe I was just in a bubble here, Jeff.

I thought, why would you not want to do that?

I mean, I do it every single night.

I know that you do it.

My wife does, we even compare in the morning, like how much deep sleep did you get?

But I guess I had never seen Jason's take on this, which is almost the opposite.

He doesn't like wearing it overnight.

Well, I'll be fair.

He says that he does like wearing it and gets the tracking, but it's just not something that he typically does.

He likes taking it off.

Anyway, this was a good article that you linked to as well, for me at least, to kind of see the different side here. - I completely agree.

He does a great job of identifying all the reasons that you would want to wear it while you sleep.

And he's been doing it for a few months to try those reasons.

And I agree with just about all of them.

And then where we diverge is at the end, where he says it's not quite enough value.

So I might go back to not doing it.

And for me, it's just barely enough value.

I will agree with him on a lot of his points though, that I would hope, you know, app, I want more out of the sleep stuff.

Sure, you can see how many hours you slept and deep sleep and stuff.

And that's interesting.

And you can also see the vitals app.

If you do this, it's part of sort of watching you.

And yet many times, and this is true for a lot of health things, the Apple watch will give you information, but it doesn't, I know that there's a line.

They don't want to become doctors.

They want to stay a little below that.

But it's like, it shows me a statistic and I'm like, okay, what am I supposed to do with this information?

And there are a few cases where they go over, like for example, the sleep apnea notifications, you know, they will tell you, because we notice enough sleep disturbances over the last month, we think that you might have sleep apnea and they'll even give you like a little thing you can turn out like a PDF.

And if you want to give it to a doctor or something like that and get a test.

So there's a few cases that they cross over, but there's not a ton.

And so I do wish that Apple would, you know, yes, they encourage you to wear it overnight, but I wish that you got more back for that.

And yet, and yet for me, it is enough.

I mean, even just the simple thing of, you know, you set an alarm and you have it tap your watch to wake up, which is amazing.

Or if I wake up in the middle of the night, I know I could just look at, you know, my iPhone, which is over there or something like that.

But I like just being able to like turn and look at my watch and then see, oh yeah, you know, here's where it is, or where it's going on, or if there's some sort of an alert that wakes me up, I can see it.

So I get enough value out of it.

The downside and the thing that I loved about your watch, the Ultra is because the battery life is so amazing on your watch, you can wear it overnight with abandon.

And I do want to mention that even though I think the Ultra is a little big for me, it wasn't so big that I found that awkward to sleep with when I used it for a couple of weeks last year.

And I know that you don't as well.

But, you know, I do have to think because the Apple Watch 10 doesn't have the big battery that you do, as soon as I wake up in the morning, I put it on the charger.

And then when I, you know, get dressed, take a shower and stuff like that, that's just enough time to get it up to 100%.

Sometimes it's not all the way there.

And every once in a blue moon, when I'm here in the office, I will like charge my Apple Watch for 30 minutes sitting at my desk just to get it the rest of the way.

And so that's the one downside of wearing it to sleep with.

But I get enough value out of it.

But if it's something that you're thinking about, I would recommend Jason's article, even though he comes out, you know, a little negative, he really identifies all the reasons that you might want to think about wearing it when you go to bed. - Yeah, he's always good about doing, sharing a good balance there and seeing both sides.

One last story before we leave the Happy Birthday Apple Watch celebration here.

We started a Wear You At segment several podcasts ago.

And I always enjoy it.

And one of the feature presenters in the Wear You At segments typically has been the Apple Watch because there have been so many stories about how the Apple Watch has saved lives.

And I guess one aspect of this, especially where the Wear You At segment comes in, Jeff, is that you can call, you know, make phone calls, for example, or SOS calls, even when you don't have your phone with you or you're stranded somewhere.

But there's so many other stories where it comes in that it can give you an alert if you have an irregular heartbeat or so.

And this was a fantastic collection here from Cult of Mac, Leander Keaney at CultofMac.com, all the ways that Apple Watch has saved lives.

I feel like a little bit this was a walk down memory lane 'cause we've talked about some of these stories in the past, but it was just really cool to see all of these stories in one place.

And it goes through the different functions, just like I was talking about, coronary heart disease, you know, heart arrhythmias, saves lives by detecting other heart problems, even cancer in here, blood oxygen, and then of course, emergency SOS, great little collection of stories here. - Yeah, I think it was eight different things that I identified in most of them just now.

In fact, one of them, the cancer was something that you and I talked about on a recent podcast that it was, you know, it's not, there's only certain types of cancer that might this be true for, but there was a woman that I think was even a doctor herself, and there was something about her, about I forget what it was, we talked about it a weeks ago, that it identified something about her that led her to go to the hospital and realize that she had this rare form of cancer.

So that's one that doesn't come up very often. - Incredible. - But she was certainly thrilled about it.

You know, we all know the things about, you know, fall detection.

I have so many people that say, I, you know, even though my parents are not real techies, I have them wearing an Apple watch, mainly because if they fall, it will detect the fall.

And you know, we've seen many stories of someone that's of anyone of any age, but certainly someone that's elderly who has fallen, and the Apple watch detects it, and because they don't respond to the Apple watch alert, it will then call 911, and their lives are saved because of it.

In fact, I remember Tim Cook himself, the CEO of Apple, was talking about how years ago when his father was alive, that it helped him when he had fallen.

So that's an obvious one, but also the, you know, detecting things about your heart, arrythmiac, you know, all those sorts of, you know, medical things.

And I know that this is something that Apple wants to do even more of.

I mean, they are doing lots and lots of research of sensors, but they could add to the Apple watch.

And then data that they could, you know, when you have this vast amount of data, what can you gain, what can you glean from that data that may actually be informative about health issues?

And I know that this will just continue to improve in the future.

I wish that I could go back to, you know, one of the things he listed is monitoring your blood oxygen level.

My Apple watch 10 doesn't do it because Apple is still in that lawsuit.

And one of these days, hopefully they'll get that resolved and they can return that function to it.

But there's just lots of, you know, cool things here of how the Apple watch can be a lifesaver, literally. - Was that on that blood oxygen, was that series sticks?

Is that what this says here that has, still has it?

I forget, I forget the, yeah, go ahead. - I mean, all of them, I mean, my watch technically has it.

It's just, it's turned off because Apple has to in the United States.

If I had bought my Apple watch 10 in, you know, in Europe, I would be able to use the feature.

It's just that they have it disabled in the US right now.

But I'm trying to remember the model.

It's been out there for a while. - Yeah, yeah.

There is a, like, I cannot remember my wife's model watch.

I think it might be a five, maybe it's a six, but she likes it because she did the research on this.

And I think if it's that model, it can still be, it is still turned on here in the United States, right?

Because it was prior to this lawsuit. - Yeah, so it's not the model per se.

It is when you purchased it.

Because a couple of years ago, in fact, a couple of years ago, my dad needed a new Apple watch.

And I, this was right when that change had happened from the lawsuit a few years ago, it was right on Christmas time.

And I remember I specifically bought him an Apple watch from Walmart because they had some stock that they had purchased from Apple before the ban.

And so if I bought it from Walmart, it was quote unquote old enough, even if it was the exact same model, you could walk into an Apple store and get, that it's still had it enabled.

Whereas if I walked into the Apple store, I would not hit.

So it's totally, it's not model dependent.

It's an arbitrary legal thing.

And once this lawsuit in the US International Trade Commission is finished, presumably Apple will either win and we'll be able to turn it on or they will lose and they will presumably pay a settlement to Massimo, the company that has the patent.

But one way or the other, I expect it to come back.

The amazing thing for me, Brett, is I thought this function would have come back a long time ago.

I'm amazed it's gone that long. - Same. - 'Cause it's an embarrassing thing for Apple to have a cool feature that people like wanna use.

And yet you can't use it. - Well, happy birthday, Apple Watch, for being turning 10 years old. - That's amazing. - Thanks for all the Apple Pay.

Thanks for all the sleep tracking.

Thanks for all the life saving alerts.

Just, I mean, you start thinking about it. - The notifications, yeah. - And it's just, the thing is, I just see it ubiquitous almost everywhere.

I mean, almost everybody that I run into has some kind of a smartwatch and almost eight times, maybe seven times out of 10.

It's probably gonna be an Apple Watch.

And it's just been amazing to see over 10 years how much that it has taken over.

And man, who knows where it's gonna go.

I mean, and just quickly, I know we don't talk about rumors just a whole lot, but this year I'm expecting hopefully an Ultra 3 and just who knows where that's gonna go on some of that. - One of the things about the Apple Watch is the notifications, I just so love, when I did that review 10 years ago of the Apple Watch, I talked about how I'm walking around Jazz Fest and I've got friends and families that are at different stages.

They're like, meet me 20 minutes at the watch, watch stage and I said, I can just look at my watch and see that text message without even having to pull my phone out or anything.

And here I am 10 years later and I'm the exact same way, that being able to glance and just see that text message, from my wife or from a family member, whoever else or from you, Brett, it's just so nice to be able to glance and see it, all the notifications are great.

If I'm in an airport, flight, gate changes and stuff, it's really so nice to just glance and see.

And that was great 10 years ago and it's so much better today.

And if that was the only feature, putting aside saving lives and everything else, if that was the only feature, I would totally wear an Apple Watch just for the notifications.

So bravo, Apple Watch, yeah, happy birthday. - Okay, one last thing quickly, that reminded me, I wanted to share this, there's a mutual acquaintance that we know, Stephen Embry.

I don't think he'd mind me sharing his name, but he texted me the other, this past week, Jeff, and talking about the Apple Watch here.

He goes, here's a funny one for you.

I went to a Bob Dylan concert a couple of nights ago.

They make you put your cell phone in locked pouches so that you cannot use the phone while you're at the concert.

But I had my trusted Apple Watch, and I know Stephen has an Ultra II, I know, and it's a black one, it's beautiful.

But I had my trusted Apple Watch with Cell Service, which we didn't even talk about, but you can get Cell Service on there.

So he could still communicate and text during the show.

One more reason Apple Watch with Cell Service comes in handy. - That's funny, that's a great one.

That's a great one. - Thanks to Apple Watch for 10 years, and man, 10 years, 30 years, 40, 50 years more.

I just love seeing where this is gonna go.

Maybe something else that Apple can put some more warm bodies on is Siri.

Or let's, oh, sorry, everything's turning on now.

I shouldn't have said it.

We have talked about this over and over, seen many stories about how the AI with she who shall not be named could be much better.

What is Apple doing?

I mean, there's so many things wrapped up in this, but you link to a story today from one of our other friends, David Sparks, at maxsparky.com, where he has been using an AI tool called Perplexity, which I've been using for a while as well.

It's very similar to Claude or ChatGPT, but Perplexity is another service that you can get on, and you can use a variety of different models, whether you wanna go to Claude or you wanna go to ChatGPT, but they've kind of added on some additional other tools in this.

But one of the tools that David showed this past week, Jeff, I'm just blown away at this.

He says it embarrasses Apple and their AI thing, because he's basically using it as he would use the Siri tool on this.

And it's just amazing.

I have to keep turning off my iPad here.

He goes, in this video that he linked to, which is only three minutes long, blew my mind away, and I'm gonna start using this this week. - Yeah, first of all, Perplexity, I actually thought it only ran on the, 'cause I don't use it regularly.

I thought it only ran on the open AI engine.

You're telling that you can actually choose your engine?

I didn't realize that. - You can.

Now, there's a free version, and then you can get up into a paid version as well on some of this.

So some of that may be, but you can go in and you can actually decide which model that you wanna use.

And again, some of that may require you to pay for a pro version. - I didn't even know that.

But regardless of the guts that underpin it, I had heard of it, but I hadn't really seen it.

And so this video, it's like you said, it's really short.

If you haven't listened to it yet, as soon as this podcast is over, like please or pause it and go listen to it and we'll go watch it, come back.

What David does sort of a screen, he's sharing his screen and you see him talking to Perplexity and asking it questions.

And the conversational nature of it is amazing.

And he asks us to do all of these things that we ask, that you would wanna do every day, set reminders and calendars and send emails.

And the ease of which it does it, it's like I could so see Siri doing this, like why doesn't it do it right now?

And he says Apple should just buy Perplexity if that's necessary.

One of the rumors is that Apple is totally rehashing all of its efforts with the service, its AI stuff, and that apparently Apple has even, I mean, this is all rumors, I don't know if it's true, but Apple is now saying that, it doesn't have to be our own engine.

If you wanted to use a third party engine, that's totally fine.

And obviously they have support for things like chat GBT.

If Apple just, if they immediately implemented everything that Perplexity has and just called that this is the new, - Amazing. - S-I-R-I, that alone would be amazing.

Let alone, it reminds me of when Apple bought the Workflows app and then changed the name to Shortcuts and then added all the additional things to make it better over the year.

I would love to see them.

And many of these examples, Apple bought Beats and turned it into Apple Music.

Apple has done this many times over, if they're not, for whatever reason, I mean, I don't know why their in-house efforts are not good enough, I don't know what I'm talking about, but we could see the results.

But we know what S-I-R-I does right now, and I'm watching David's show, what Perplexity does right now, and I'm like, there's a big difference here.

And so, and this is an app you can get on your iPhone today, and you can use this today, it's just not from Apple.

So again, if you wanna peek at what the future might be like, and frankly, what the current ought to be like, take a quick look at David's video, it's just, you know, wow. - Well said, well said on that.

And so let's just describe it quickly on a couple of things that he does here.

He asks Perplexity to set a reminder, which it does, which typically I would have done through Sally and the Reminders app on my iPhone.

And then he says, another thing he says, is draft an email, and the Perplexity voice says, what do you wanna write in the email?

And it creates it here, I'm showing the screenshot right here, of it's authored this email, which A, makes me think of some of the promotional materials that Apple was even showing, like this is what they want S-I-R-I to do eventually, like this is what they were advertising was going to happen on some of this. - And we're so close to it, Brett, because you can use it on mail to say, you know, I want you to send a message to Brett that says such and such, and it will draft a text message and it will send it, but it's not, you know, what David shows in this video here, it's just so much smoother and cleaner, and it's just, this is that one or two steps ahead of what we have here, but that makes all the difference. - Now, the other thing that made me think about this, and I actually have Proplexity Pro myself, and so I was trying this out, and I was asking it in order to create an event or author an email, do you need to have access to my calendar and to my email?

And the answer is yes.

And so that's, this is where it's starting to, and I don't know that David mentioned that, maybe he does, and he has Max Sparky Labs, which I know you're a member of, which is great, but I wonder, did he, at some point had to give access to his calendar and to his email account of some type, I don't know exactly how, but you had to give access to that in order for Proplexity to actually author an email or to put a reminder on your calendar or a date on your calendar. - Are you sure about that? - Because Proplexity is not-- - I don't know, that's what I'm saying, yeah, I don't know for sure, but when I asked Proplexity Pro, it said yes, I need access to your calendar because I don't know how else that it would put an invite on your calendar unless you have access to it.

Maybe David would know, we should bring him on. - Yeah, I mean, when you say access to the calendar, it's not reading his calendar, it's not saying you have an appointment at four o'clock today, it's just writing something.

And third parties have been able to create calendar events for a while, if I use Tripit or something, it could say, can you, you wanna put this plane on your calendar, it can, apps like that can do that.

And so I think that that's all, of course, this is why Apple should purchase it. - That's true, yep, that's true.

Apple then could do everything.

You could say, I wanna put this in my calendar and then it could reply and say, you have something else at two o'clock the same day, do you wanna make this earlier or later?

See, that's what I want.

It's a true assistant, the way that a real world assistant would work.

It's say, have the intelligence to say, I see this, and keep in mind that it's gonna take 20 minutes to get to that location, so maybe you need, that's the sort of back and forth that Apple's own AI should be smart enough to do.

But having said that, this example was interesting because it's both searching the internet to find out about an event, which happened to be something like Disneyland, and then putting it on its calendar and stuff like that.

It's, this is beyond what Apple is currently doing with Sally and I would love to have it do this. - So, okay, so quickly, that's getting to my point, 'cause he first, he says, set a reminder, but then my next question, Jeff, is where is that reminder going? - I suspect it's going to the reminder app, I would think.

I mean, it's not clear. - Well, can it right there? - Okay, well, this is what I need to research more, and we should have just had David come on and talk about this, because, but to your point that you're getting to though, is I don't want to have to trust another ecosystem, right?

I mean, this is what we've talked about.

I want all of this to work within the Apple ecosystem that I already give access, and I trust the iCloud account, the privacy components, the security aspects that Apple already provides, and I just wanna be able to use this and say these things like these examples that David is showing without thinking, okay, do I have to go out somewhere?

Do I have to open another app?

Like, I don't want any of that.

I want it to all be, and obviously that's his point as well in some of the things that you were saying on this.

That said, I can't wait to continue to start using this.

Like, I might just set this as a shortcut or something on my log screen to go into the Perplexity app, because it really is a beautiful interface that they've created on here. - It looks like it, yeah. - Yeah, and I've been using Perplexity for a while for a variety of things like other, to compare to ChatGPT and Clawed and some of these other tools out there.

And it just, I'm looking forward to the day, like I've heard others talk about this, how they interact with something like ChatGPT.

They almost have it as a conversation.

Alex Lindsay, for example, on the podcast, talks about it, he just, in the car, it's as if he's talking with some guru sitting in the car with him.

He just starts asking about a topic that he's interested in, and then there gets feedback, and it just continues to talk through it as if you're talking to an encyclopedia that could have access to all of this information.

And anyway, that just continues to get me excited on some of this, and it was just such a great video that you'll link to here. - Yeah, cool stuff. - Not leaving AI quite yet.

Let's talk about an app that I knew about that I've been using on the Mac for a while also, called Whisper, which is basically an AI transcriber, is what I would call it, that it takes audio files and it transcribes them to text, which is exactly the tools that I've been using for a couple of years now, Jeff.

For us, this is how I transcribe our audio file for the podcast so that we can provide a transcript.

But now, the Whisper app is available for the iPhone and the iPad as well. - Yeah, and by the way, if you don't know about that, if you go to inthenoosepodcast.com, not only do you see links to every episode, but there's a little tab at the top that you can go to the transcript pad, the transcript tab, and see the transcript.

And sometimes that's useful if you're like, our podcast or any other ones, that if you wanted to see an old episode, and like, I think that they talked about such and such, and you can just totally do a find and find it.

By the way, Apple does this for podcasts, not using the Mac Whisper app, but in the podcast app.

I don't use the Apple podcast app for listening to regular podcasts, but I do use it for sometimes if I wanna, you know, get some information from a podcast without listening to the whole thing. - Right. - I love, you can just, yeah, you're showing it right there, the transcript tab.

I love that you can just, you know, search a transcript.

And these transcripts are not 100% perfect, but they are totally good enough to find what you need.

So anyway, this Mac Whisper engine, and you know, because you use it every week for our podcast, it's really good.

I mean, I think to the days when it was like, Dragon naturally listening was one of the few products to do audio to text. - Oh boy, wow. - And we have come so far from that, and now it's just like, I think that Whisper originally came from the open AI people, and it might be open source, I forget, there's lots of different implementations of it, and Mac Whisper is just one.

So now you can get this on the iPhone and the iPad.

So, you know, if you wanted to dictate a bunch of text, and of course Siri can do this too, but now you've got things like, well, perplexedly we're just talking about that, you've got this brand new Mac Whisper, I mean, there is just a plethora of options.

You know, Google's apps will do this with their AI.

There's lots of great ways to transcribe things right there on your device.

Even long form.

So, and this is something, you know, back in the day, attorneys and others used to have those little, I might have one in the back of a closet somewhere here, like those little handheld, little dictaphone things that you would record things to the little tape, and then I would give the tape to a secretary and the assistant would transcribe, you know, would literally manually transcribe.

I mean, gosh, we're so far from those days. - Didn't we talk about one of the Apple Intelligence tools that is already in the wild right now, I wanna think it's through notes, right?

You can take audio and the notes app on your iPhone or iPad will transcribe that audio, and maybe there's a couple other places as well.

And anyway, just interesting to see sort of that intersection.

Like, I think that audio transcription is pretty good from Apple Intelligence, but now you have some additional options.

And like you said, you could have used some of the other apps on there as well, but just great to see that the Whisper team is moving into that mobile space as well.

Good stuff on that. - Agreed, yep. - About three years ago, there was a scary situation at an Apple store in Amsterdam.

It was a hostage situation.

I remember, I don't know that we were recording even by that time, maybe we were, Jeff, but I remember seeing the story, thank goodness, apparently I think that everything was able to be resolved pretty comfortably, but the story is coming up again that they basically have a documentary or I guess it's like a real life. - It's a movie based on all of this. - This is not something you're gonna see on Apple TV Plus. - No. (laughing) - This is actually being shown on Netflix though.

I haven't watched this yet, but you link to a story, not so much because that's the story, but the way that they created this and recreated this scenario was a little fascinating.

There's a little behind the scenes video that you link to today. - The movie is called "Eye Hostage" and it was made by some Dutch filmmakers, which makes sense 'cause it was right there in Amsterdam.

I haven't seen the movie and in fact, if any of y'all have and if you think it's worth seeing, send me a note because part of it wants to see this movie 'cause it takes place in an Apple store, but the reviews, and ironically, if you go to Netflix, I saw this this week, if you look at Netflix at their top charts, this movie is right near the top.

And so you're like, oh, this is the hot new, if you open up your Netflix app, it's totally up there.

And yet when you go to Rotten Tomatoes, the reviews for it are horrible, horrible.

So I don't know. - Oh boy, okay. - Is it a good movie?

Is it a bad movie?

I don't know.

But what is interesting is they wanted to film it.

You know, it all takes place in an Apple store and of course, Apple's not gonna let them do that.

And so they rebuilt on a sound stage a full-size replica of the Apple store and they surrounded the front of the, in the sides of the Apple store with one of these huge screens that shows like the actual streets of Amsterdam right around the Apple store.

It reminds me of, there's this thing called the, I'm forgetting the name of it, but Apple has used it to do a bunch of its movies like the TV shows like The Mandalorian.

It's like a 360 screen top to bottom and filmmakers can film in it.

And they totally, they have like images or very realistic looking things.

And so it basically makes it that your actors are acting not in front of a green screen, but in front of the actual background and makes it more realistic.

I'm forgetting the name of it.

They have a cool name for it, but they now have at least they reproduce that in Amsterdam so that when you're inside the Apple store, you look out the fake Apple store, you look out the windows and you see the bustling streets of Amsterdam with real people walking in front of this screen.

So it's just an interesting behind the scenes to do it to make it look like a real Apple store.

So anyway, if I do watch the movie, I'll let you know.

And if I don't, I might turn it on for a minute just to sort of see what it looks like.

It looks like at least it was filmed in an interesting way. - Just, yeah, just watching this little video is pretty amazing.

Thankfully, apparently there's happier times for the Amsterdam store, which is apparently still open.

If you want to go to the opposite of what a hostage, very much open.

Apparently once, this was this past week, right?

The workers forgot to lock the doors.

And so there would just be random customers walking in, but apparently they actually got everybody out of the store, some couple of these, there's this little Instagram or TikTok video here.

They got everybody out of the store, called the police and they came and locked it up.

Like, I feel like it's a scene for a hostage, potentially tragic situation, but it's also for some good Samaritans coming along here as well. - When you hear a story of somebody left the doors open, you expect the followup to be, and then the thieves went in there and took all the stuff.

But here these people in Amsterdam walked in, realized that there was nobody working there and that they probably shouldn't be in there.

And so they called the security and they stayed in there just to make sure that nobody came to do anything bad.

And then once the security came and locked the door, they left, it's like, I'm very crazy.

This is the world that we want to live in where people sort of look out for each other and stuff like that.

Apple should find all these people and I don't know, give them something.

I don't know, give them something to thank you.

Give them some AirPods or something like that to thank them for doing this.

But please, Apple, please lock the doors for goodness sakes. - I feel like in this episode, we're bouncing back and forth between honest folks and not so honest folks.

You got another story here where this could almost be a where you at segment a little bit.

I think Apple Insider does this fairly recent, fairly often, Steven Silver has, I call it the Apple Crime Blotter.

So it's just a collection of stories that are involved either Apple Watches or people stealing iPhones or just all kinds of other crazy stuff.

There's even like birds crashing into the Apple Store in Australia, like what is going on here?

Anyway, interesting, it's a little set of stories you link to today. - It's an interesting collection.

They must be like watching reports from like police reports and stuff like that.

You know, the guy in Florida, the UPS driver that was accused of stealing 171 iPhones.

You've got somebody hacking into someone's iCloud account which you never want to know.

You've got the person that tried to steal a steal, one of these STIHL, the buy-in equipment, the steel construction saw, and apparently it had an air tag on it.

In fact, they don't get into the details of it, but you and I have talked about this before that they actually make these things that are made for the specific purposes.

It's like a little holder that you put on your high end construction type equipment to hide an air tag on there.

So specifically so that if somebody steals the, whatever the saw or whatever it is, the table saw, that you could track a tail, which is exactly what they did here.

And they found the guy, so I was on the took it, got it back.

And all these other little, some of these are silly.

Somebody claiming their iPhone was stolen and it turns out that she made it up.

But it's an interesting collection of little stories, something involving a rap feud that I didn't quite follow the story.

Lots of little bits here. - So I mentioned this quickly, so I have to go back.

Apparently there was this bird strike, a bunch of birds, so a native tree martens crashed into an apple store in Adelaide, Australia.

Some birds unfortunately were killed and others were injured.

But it said the birds were spooked by a falcon and flew into large glass windows of the store. - And it's, it's called on video, it's terrible. - I mean, that's terrible, but. - Yeah, it's an interesting video. - I'm not gonna show it. (laughing) But apparently now, what are they gonna, they say they, Apple plans to install a film on the exterior of the glass to deter the birds.

This could be a real problem.

You know, it's funny, I just, I have to say this, where we are in Ohio, the Robins are out and apparently this is their time, you know, springtime and everybody's nesting and everything.

We have some Robins that will fly into our, and bump our windows, Jeff.

I don't know if you've ever heard this, but apparently they're so aggressive.

Like they fly around and they see the reflection in the window and so they come in, they bump the window and fly back trying to scare this away.

And it's just so funny, I'm sitting down downstairs and all of a sudden here, boom, boom, you know, they just keep bumping in there.

Anyway, just saying, like I didn't know that, at least I don't have the Apple store, but maybe my windows are as nice and clean as the Apple windows.

I gotta install some film on some of mine as well, apparently as well. - I'm thinking of the all Rock and Robin song from the 1960s, whatever it was. - That's right.

Okay, in the vision, let's talk about the Apple vision just real quick because you talked about another little episode in the adventure series.

And it's so funny because you gave a link to Apple's immersive adventure series, which was only four.

Well, I guess there's five little videos now.

But one of these, as soon as I got to this link, it just brought me back to a few weeks ago when we were together in Chicago and you let me use your vision pro and I watched this, what is her name?

Faith Dickey, this Highliner.

And it was just, it was so visceral watching it, just the landscape and being like up close to her and seeing her emotions as she's doing this in a way I have never seen a video.

And so now you said that there is another new series or another episode in this adventure series called Hill Climb, I think. - Yeah, Apple has series as episodes for the Apple vision pro and one of them is called the adventure series.

And when it first came out, most of these series had just one episode, but over time they've added a little bit more.

The adventure one now has the most episodes.

It's got five episodes and the one that was added this week, in fact, it was added yesterday, it's called Hill Climb.

I was so tired after "Gas Fast" yesterday that I haven't watched it yet, but I do look forward to it.

Apparently you're like with this female race car driver and going up the hill as a thanks peak.

So it looks like it's gonna be fun to watch, being immersive inside of a car and stuff, but all of these adventure ones are great.

And you write that very first one, the Highlining one, it's, you know, there's no doubt in my mind why Apple wanted to have that one ready for day one, because it is still one of the videos I show off to people like you, Brad, if they wanna see Vision Pro, because like you feel like you're there, all these adventure ones, but especially that one, you're someplace that you would never be in real life.

I mean, the chance of you and I ever walking between the side of mountains on a wire is zero, but you feel like you're there because you're right, I don't know how they filmed that.

They must have had drones and stuff like that.

You are right there with her.

And because it's immersive, it's so much more than watching a 2D movie.

It's just, it takes your breath away.

It's as if you are there.

And that's what I love about this adventure series is it allows you, you know, the regular old person that's just sitting there on your couch to feel the exhilaration of doing one of these adventures, whether you are doing parkour in Paris and jumping from building to building or diving through ice and stuff.

We talked about that one a few weeks ago.

So I haven't seen this latest one yet.

And in fact, it's interesting because I didn't even know this one was coming out.

Sometimes Apple will preview like this is coming out soon.

This one just dropped yesterday.

I'm like, really, I didn't even know about that.

So I look forward to watching that one tonight.

It's going to be awesome.

But I love all these immersive videos and I especially love the adventure series.

Please Apple, more of these, more of these. - You were on another podcast this past week that you were talking about your Vision Pro.

This is the Vision Pros podcast hosted by Tim Chattin.

And you were talking all about how you practice law with the Vision Pro.

And I feel like this was good 'cause I remember at the ABA Tech Show, the conference we were at a few weeks ago, this is what you were talking about and it was really fantastic. - Yeah, Tim Chattin has great podcasts.

He does two of them.

One of them is called iPad Pros.

And I was actually a guest on that one last year.

That's a really good podcast where he interviews people about how they use the iPad.

It's really good, I love it.

He does a ton of research behind the scenes, by the way.

He like really does work for his podcasts.

And his other podcast is called Vision Pros.

And it's not the only podcast that's dedicated to the Vision Pro.

There's one or two more, but I think it's the best one.

And he is always talking to whether it's an app developer or people that use it.

And so he had talked to me about being on the podcast last year.

And I told Tim, I'm like, you know what?

I'm gonna be at ABA Tech Show in April.

So I was like, wait until, 'cause I figured I would probably do a session on the Vision Pro and sure enough, I did.

I'm like, wait until I've done that 'cause I've got like all my thoughts together.

And so what I did, Brett, is literally the day that I gave the presentation and you were there in the room when I gave it, I sent him my slides.

And it's not like we, I mean, the podcast that I did with him is not the same as the ABA Tech Show session because that was obviously for an audience of attorneys and legal professionals.

But it was certainly influenced by that were the questions that he asked me.

So if you could not be in Chicago and see the session that I did, check out this episode 'cause I talk about what I'm doing today with my Vision Pro in my law practice and what I could see happening in the future.

It was really fun.

Tim's a great host and it was a great episode.

I loved it. - Let's do a where you at segment, but it's a little bit different this time because where you at, you were in New Orleans.

You had a great post this past week about somebody that's pretty close to you that has a new album that's available.

You can get it on album music today.

Go ahead and tell us about Bo Swank. - So Bo Swank is a band that my dad created years ago and my father is an architect by day, which is an architecture.

But I think that if he had his life dream, he would be an artist and not an architect.

He's an amazing, he loves to draw and stuff like that.

He drew the album art for this thing.

And he's both a great graphic artist, but he also is a musician and he has been writing and playing songs forever since he was in college and stuff like that.

And so, gosh, decades ago, he started to get together with some of friends, many of whom are incredibly talented musicians who have recorded with major artists and stuff like that.

And he's formed a band, they've changed their names over the years, but they perform all sorts of stuff and they get together every week and they play covers and they just have fun playing songs.

But he has a ton, a ton of original songs that my father has written over the years.

And I know I'm totally biased, so I can't, I'm not gonna even try to give you an unbiased opinion. - That's okay. - I think they are really good.

And so, he recorded a bunch of them on an album which is called "Luziana, Wing Dang Do."

And he first recorded these songs about a decade ago. - L.O.O. - Yeah, L.O.O.O.

And then they re-released it and reorganized some of the songs just very recently.

And so, it just went up on Apple Music this week.

And so, since it went up, and I say Apple Music, it went up on all of them.

In fact, the way that he did this, if any of you are musicians out there, there is a service, I think it's called DistroKid.

It was started by some former Apple employees who hated the fact that it was hard for independent artists to get their music on Apple Music and other services.

And so, they started this record label where you can just sign up for an account and you upload your original songs to your album.

And then they handled all the behind the scenes stuff of getting it to Apple Music, Spotify, all the other streaming services. - That's so great. - And so, that's what he did.

And well, he wrote the music, me and my brother did the behind the scenes stuff and got it out there.

And so now, it's fun because, you know, he's not gonna make any money off of this, but I love the idea that if you subscribe to any of these services, and I think all of us have at least one of these subscriptions, you can now listen to this album.

And I encourage you to do so.

It's really good if you just wanna pick one track, the one and the reason that we call this the "Where Yat" segment is he has a great song called "Back in Tibidot," which is "Tibidot, Louisiana," and the song talks about all the cities that you go through as you go down in the, you know, the bayou of Louisiana and then back to Tibidot.

But he's got some other great songs that are all about New Orleans.

There's one that he wrote right after Hurricane Katrina.

So that was 2000, 2005.

So that tells you how old the song is.

And it's called "The New New Orleans," and it was about the rebirth of New Orleans after Katrina, which has totally happened.

And so, it's really a fun album.

I encourage you, if you're looking for something good to listen to that's got a little bit of a sort of a cajun, almost sort of country, folks sort of sound to it.

It's great.

And he sings these, I think my dad's voice is decent.

It's certainly good enough that the songs are great.

There's, he has another version that I have a link to there in EP where he's got another guy that who has a really good voice that's saying some of them.

That one was called "A Grosse Deux."

But so anyway, he's got lots of stuff.

And there's a local band called the Abbey of Stumps that did a cover of one of his songs.

So he's a great musician.

I've got a link to him playing at the bottom.

You were in New Orleans years ago and my dad loves to perform every once in a while at this great place called Rockin' Bowl in New Orleans and get up there on stage and I have a YouTube video.

So anyway, I realized this is a personal thing.

It's a tribute to my father.

But I'm telling you, they're really good songs.

I encourage you to check them out.

Once you get some of these in your head, you will be, if you will be singing them along and you'll be here, they can be a little bit of an earworm.

There's some great songs in here.

What's it, we were talking about this just a little bit.

The second track is... - The Maronnie Mambo. - Maronnie, Maronnie Mambo.

What a great, that's a great song.

When I had this on this morning, I was enjoying that. - You can't listen to that song without just sort of tapping your foot and going along.

The Maronnie is a section of New Orleans that's on the other side of the French Quarter from like downtown New Orleans.

There's all sorts of cool music clubs and restaurants and stuff like that.

It's a really neat sort of funky part of town.

And he talks about that in the Maronnie Mambo.

I could tell stories on every single one of these songs.

They're great.

There's a song he has called "Dauphine" which the song as if Dauphine is a person but Dauphine is a street that runs through the French Quarter.

And so in the song, he's sort of talking about like the different things you'll see.

You know, he literally had a map in front of him and he was looking at all the places you might see on Dauphine Street and he turned that into a song about Dauphine.

There's just great, great stuff in here. - That's great.

Go and listen to "Bosewake."

I just love that. - "Louisiana Wing Dang Du."

"Louisiana Wing Dang Du."

That's the name of the album. - You got it. - I love it. - I love it. - It is the one and only album called "Louisiana Wing Dang Du."

So ask for it by name. - Yeah, you're not gonna get confused with any other albums on Apple Music.

How about the bottom of the news today?

You always have a nice little video and this one is no different.

Apple released a little, I guess, I still call them ads or commercials.

This one's called "Soramic Shield" and don't wanna spoil anything as usual, but as per usual, it is Apple showing off a particular feature that they want to focus on.

This one happens to be the iPhone 16, but it's so well done, so well done many times and I really enjoyed it.

This one. - Yeah, it's so good.

I'm sorry, it's "Soramic Shield," but the video is called "Trust Issues."

That'll kind of help you understand what you're talking about there. - There's definitely issue of trust when you hand your iPhone to somebody else.

The "Soramic Shield" was, it came out a number of years ago with the iPhone 12 and I don't understand the engineering chemical process of it, but it's very sophisticated because the problem is you wanna have glass on your iPhone to have something on the screen so that you can touch it and you can see it, but you want it to be durable enough that if you drop your iPhone, which unfortunately we all do from time to time, you want it to be able to withhold it.

And so they worked with, I think they work with Corning in this, to come up with this ceramic shield that uses nano ceramic crystals, which are harder than most metals and then they sort of merge them to the glass and you would think if you put ceramic in glass, it's gonna be like opaque, but of course as we all know from our iPhone, you can totally see through it.

So it's an engineering miracle that these smart scientists were able to do this in the first place and then Apple has improved the ceramic shield process over the years.

Apple claims, and I've never seen anyone say that they're wrong, that the Apple screens are twice as durable as the screens on other smartphone, specifically Android and stuff like that.

I wouldn't wanna necessarily drop a bunch of phones to do a test myself, but regardless, hopefully there's some truth to that.

I've seen some third party say that there is.

And again, when you drop your phone, sometimes it's gonna crack and when that happens, it's unfortunate, but sometimes it doesn't.

I mean, I've had it happen, Brett, I'm sure you, I don't know if you have.

I was like, you know, something happens and you drop it and if it drops on carpet, maybe you're okay, but sometimes it doesn't.

And you're like, oh, please, please do not give me a crack screen. - Yeah, I know, I know, it's cringe. - And it's not.

And you're like, oh, well, how about that?

Like there's no, it's so nice.

Oh, exactly, yeah, dodged a bullet there.

So I'm glad that Apple continues to make us, you know, just in case.

And this is part of the reason that I don't use a case on my iPhone.

I don't like the extra bulk from a case.

And it's not like I'm depending on it.

Believe me, I don't want to drop my phone, but it gives me a little bit more security knowing that just in case I did drop it, at least it's got some of the added protection of the ceramic shield. - It seems to me that when there are recording a video like this, there has to be a balance between what Apple officially endorses, how the treatment of their devices versus what they're trying to show from an advertisement.

Anyway, you have to watch the video to kind of get an idea on that.

Let's think our sponsor, Lit Software, which has several apps.

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I know that Lit Software has a number of apps and the one that they get most of their claim for is Trial Pad because it's so amazing.

You talked about that last week.

But the app called Transcript Pad, I mean, maybe it's just because of the nature of my law practice, but I don't do a lot of trials.

Even trial attorneys don't do a ton of trials 'cause so many cases settle and don't go to trial.

But taking in civil litigation, taking depositions is what we do all the time where you're getting other people on the record, here, raise your hand, tell the truth.

And then the attorney asks the questions and they provide the answers and you get this transcript.

And so then after the fact, you're going through your transcript.

In the old days, I would get the transcript on paper or even on PDF.

And then I would go through and I would highlight, this is an important because I got him to admit X, Y, Z, which I might be able to use on filing a motion or I might use this at trial.

And I would go through and I'll highlight it, but then you don't want everything the same because different things are important for different reasons.

So in the old days, I would use different colors.

I'm gonna highlight in yellow and in green and blue.

But even that gets confusing.

Transcript Pad solves all those problems.

When your court reporter sends you the transcript, they're gonna send you the PDF files, but they also send you the ASCII version.

It's something called a TXT file or an ASCII version.

And transcript pad just sucks that stuff in.

You just send it to transcript pad.

And then, you know, I say, this is for the Smith versus Jones case and this is the transcript of the plaintiff and it has it in there and it has a feature which I always have turned on that it automatically makes the question in bold and the answer is non-bold.

So it's very easy to see question, answer, question, answer.

And then as I'm reviewing the transcript, whether I took the deposition or somebody else did, when I, you can highlight of course, but the real thing you do is put issue tags.

So like this, you know, this line of questioning is relevant to the issue of, you know, was the light red or green, you know, when the accident happened.

And this is relevant to, you know, was the person drinking beforehand or this is relevant to all the different things that are important in the case.

And so then after you've gone through all the different depositions, like maybe I've deposed six different people in the case, I can then say, okay, now I'm gonna prepare a motion and my question here is when did the person learn the problem?

Because if you waited too long to sue that, you know, in other states it's called statute of limitations here in Louisiana, we have our French terms for everything it's called prescription in Louisiana.

But I want all the testimony on how long ago did they know about the problem?

Because if it was more than a year earlier then maybe I can say that the action is time barred.

And so I can just tap one button and create a report and instantly all of that testimony is just right there.

And so transcript pad is so useful for managing transcripts.

Plus I have every transcript of my case right there in my iPad.

So if I'm in another deposition or a hearing and I'm like, gosh, didn't John Smith say something about this, I could just instantly find it.

It's just right there in front of me.

So these are the core features that have been a part of transcript pads since really since day one.

But there's so many-- - Well, I'm gonna say at least definitely since 2012 'cause in January, 2012, you actually reviewed transcript pad.

On iPhone JD.

Just to kind of show how long this has been around and just funny looking at some of these old pictures here of some of the screenshots. - 'Cause the iPhone looks so different back in 2012.

The interface was different.

And yet the core features were all there.

But they have just-- - Exactly. - The app so much since then.

One of the big ones was more, it used to be that transcripts, I mean, depositions were just like a core reporter.

And every once in a while, for a really, really big case, you could justify the cost of having a video taken.

But I'm finding more and more of my depositions have a video component.

In fact, especially in the post pandemic stage, we started doing depositions by Zoom back then.

And if you're already doing it on Zoom, it's easy enough to record the video, right?

And so I have a lot of depositions that I have a video of it.

And videos are really important for depositions because if you're reading the transcript, you ask the question and they say the answer.

It's like, okay, that's the answer.

But then you watch the video of it and you can see the expression on the person's face.

And you're like, oh my goodness, you could totally tell that they're lying or that they're making it up, whatever.

It's like, that only comes through on the video.

And so transcript pad has this great feature that you can take the videos and using AI.

It will figure out, you know, this is that speech to text technology that you and I were talking earlier in today's episode.

And it will match up what they say with the transcript.

Now, in the old days, you could pay services to do this for you and they would charge you lots of money for it.

But nowadays you don't need to because transcript pad just does it automatically and it does it right there on device.

It takes a little bit of time to do.

And then, so as I'm reviewing a transcript from like a year ago on my iPad, not only can I see the text, but if I jump to page 64, line 12, I just tap it and instantly the video starts to play of the same thing.

And you can often get so much more information just by watching that snippet of video.

And then of course, if it goes to like trial or a hearing or something like that, you could actually play the video.

And of course, since it's lit software is all about presentation because of all the work they've done at trial pad over the year.

You know, they make it super, super simple to, you know, create something that's, you know, appropriate for showing to a jury or a judge or whatever with the video.

And you can even edit, you know, I could talk about this app forever, but just a real quick one is I've been in big trials where you prepare the video to present to the jury, right?

And then like, it's a big trial.

You've got tons of people working on it.

And the night before you're like, you know what?

I need to edit, you know, we're gonna take out this question and answer 'cause that's no longer relevant because of something else that happened in court today.

So I don't wanna show this to the jury tomorrow.

But in the old days, I would have to get the trial presentation people on the line at 10 o'clock at night and you know at a big cost.

And I need you to redo the video.

I mean, they put your dick in us with transcript pad.

You just do all of this yourself, right on the iPad.

And it's got these cool audio tools that you can see the waveforms of the voice.

So like I can make the video clip start exactly where I want, like just, you know, right after the, uh-huh, but just before he starts to talk and then have it end over here.

And you can make these perfect, it's so quick, you just do it yourself.

I can't talk enough about it.

And that's just one.

The video is just one of the features.

And I've talked about so many of the other ones on my blog over the years.

And so if you are a litigation person and you are ever involved in depositions, you know, this is worth the cost of the software for this alone.

Even if you don't use trial pad and doc review pad on the other ones very often, transcript pad is just, it's a fantastic app for lawyers.

If you have an iPad and if depositions are a part of your professional life, you're gonna wanna get transcript pad.

It's that simple.

You can find out more information at litsoftware.com, l-i-t software.com, and let them know that you heard about it from us on this podcast.

I also just wanna point out quickly, they have a fantastic support site here with a lot of little videos.

They also have the LitSweet Academy.

So LitSweet is the name of these apps that you can get as a subscription, which by the way, you can try for completely free for seven days or as a seven day trial, no restrictions on there at all.

But even if you do try that for the seven days, you can go to the LitSweet Academy.

So just go to litsoftware.com and let them know that you heard about it from us here on In The News podcast.

And now it's time for In The Know. - In The Know. - I thought, Jeff, we were saying happy birthday to the Apple Watch.

We could provide a couple of Apple Watch tips today.

And here's one of my favorite, actually I provided this at the ABA Tech Show, the conference we were at a few weeks ago.

And just because I feel like most people don't know or recall that you can change the wrist that you want your Apple Watch to be on and that will actually reorient the screen.

Not only that, but you can also orient the change of where the digital crown is going to go.

Now this sounds a little silly like why not?

'Cause I typically wear my Apple Watch on my left wrist and the digital crown is in the upper right corner, right?

That's to me where it should be because most watches that we all know, typically you wear it on your left wrist and the crown or the spinning, you know, from the old watches would typically be on the right side.

But not everybody likes that.

Some people like to wear it on their right.

Well, if you wear it on your right wrist, the digital crown then would be on the right side of it.

I know this has got a hard to talk about it, a visual thing, but it's a little hard to get to that digital crown.

So you can actually go into either the Apple Watch or you can go into your Apple Watch app on your iPhone and you can say, I wanna wear my Apple Watch on my left wrist or my right wrist.

And when you do that, as I said, it'll change the orientation.

Then you can also say, I want my digital crown to be either on the left or the right.

So you can come up with like multiple different ways you wanna wear it.

Maybe you wanna wear it on your left wrist, but you want the digital crown to be on the bottom left.

And that way you can just use your thumb to kind of scroll the digital crown instead of, maybe your index finger on the upper right.

Or you could wear the Apple Watch on your right wrist and have the digital crown in the bottom left.

Again, it's a little confusing when I'm trying to explain it, but you can just go into the settings app on your Apple Watch and you can see these orientation options that you'll have there.

Or as I said, you can go into the Apple Watch app on your iPhone, you tap my watch.

In fact, I'm gonna do that right now.

I go into my Apple Watch app, I tap my watch here, and then you go to watch orientation.

So that's actually what it's called, watch orientation.

And you'll see that those options will be there.

And sometimes I tell people to like play around with it.

I thought this was a little silly until my son, he literally likes, he wears his Apple Watch on his left wrist, but he likes his digital crown to be on the left side because sometimes when you move your wrist for sometimes you will accidentally hit that digital crown.

I don't typically do that very often, but some people do just the way that they're set up.

So go in and try changing the orientation of your watch and the orientation of your digital crown.

And you could find something that works a little bit better for you. - Great tip.

Like you said, I have an Apple Watch tip too.

And my Apple Watch tip is all about Apple Pay. - Oh good. - 2014, almost 11 years ago, when Apple introduced the Apple Watch, which would not come out for many months later, but it was the same time that Apple introduced, as I said earlier, the iPhone 6, one of the features that they announced was Apple Pay.

And when I had my post on it, which you link to right here, September 10th of 2014, I have like a short little paragraph.

I think it's two sentences in Apple Pay.

And all that I said, 'cause I hadn't tried it yet, you know, all they said was, this has the potential to be one of the best and most convenient features of the new iPhones.

And I look forward to learning more about it myself.

I mean, sure enough, it really was great.

I mean, I don't remember much about the iPhone 6, except that it was a bigger iPhone, but I absolutely remember Apple Pay because it has become so useful.

And I'm sure that everybody listening to this, I hope so, if you use Apple Pay on your iPhone.

But my tip today is that Apple Pay on the Apple Watch, it's the best way in my mind to use Apple Pay.

And I know that not everybody takes advantage of it because the feature has, it was around on day one, 10 years ago, as we talked about.

And 10 years later, I still, I use my Apple Watch to pay all the time.

And I always, I literally heard it yesterday at Jazz Fest.

I was at a food booth buying something and they had these little handheld things that you pay using the little device that they have.

And I just tapped a button and just put my watch on it.

And I paid instantly, even though I had like other food in my hand and stuff like that, I didn't have to reach up my wallet and put it back or anything.

And the person at the booth is like, "Wow, that is the fastest way I've ever seen to pay for something."

And I'm like, "Yeah."

But I still, I don't know if this happens to you, Brett, but like, I will go to stores and I will pay with Apple Pay.

And the person that's at the cash register will say, "Wow, that was really cool."

And they're wearing an Apple Watch.

I'm like, "You know, you can do this too.

We can all do this.

It's amazing that everybody doesn't do it." - You can too. - It's a fast and convenient way and it's so much easier than pulling your iPhone out to pay or certainly pulling your credit card out.

I just love used to get.

And so one tip I'll tell you is that when you set up Apple Pay on the Apple Watch, you know, you can have all of your cards in there.

I'm sure most people have multiple cards.

I've got like, you know, my main card is my AmEx card, but I also have a Visa card 'cause not everywhere it takes AmEx.

I have my bank card because sometimes you need a debit card, but you can set which is your default card.

If you go to the Apple, I'm sorry, if you go to the phone and you go to the Apple Watch app on the phone, you can say which one of my cards is the default card.

And then on the watch itself, I don't think you can do this on the iPhone app, but I know you can do it on the Watch app.

If you go to your Watch app and you go to the wallet, you will have all the cards that you've added in there and you can actually, you know, tap hold down on one of the cards and drag it up or down.

It's because it's such a small screen, it's a little bit of a key, but you can do it.

And so I have like, my AmEx is my top card 'cause I try to use that as much as I can 'cause I get Delta points on it.

But if I can't use it, like I have my second one there and right now I actually have it my debit card because I use that a lot if I'm like, you know, going to an ATM machine, I can just very quickly, you know, select my debit card and just hold my watch out and log into the ATM thing.

But you can decide, you know, what order do you wanna have things in there?

And then I'll also mention, while we're talking about order, so to state the obvious, if you don't know this, is when you're ready to pay, that button that's on the right of the Apple watch, not the digital crown, but the one below it, you just double tap on that and it brings up your wallet.

And of course, whatever your default card is, it's gonna bring that up top.

But then below your credit cards and your debit cards and stuff, you then have all of the other cards that are in your wallet app on your phone that have like, you know, a membership card or a rewards app or like, you know, I have like for Walgreens, I get like Walgreens rewards, you get pennies and stuff.

And so sometimes I'll like be checking out at Walgreens and they're like, do you have a Walgreens account?

They want you to put your phone number and stuff.

I was like, no, no, no, I just double tap and scroll all the way to the bottom.

And then there's the Walgreens card and I just, you know, tap and it has my rewards number and then I tap to pay as well.

For some reason, I don't understand, you can reorder credit cards, but you can't reorder the other cards at the bottom.

Yeah, maybe they'll change that one day.

And so at Walgreens, for example, it's, I don't know, it's not alphabetical.

I'm not sure what order they're in there.

It's not my last card, but it's like close enough to the bottom that I can just spin, you know, I bring up the, I double tap to bring up the wallet and then I just spin all the way to the bottom because we use the digital crown and then I just go up like one or two.

And that's where my Walgreens card is.

If I can use that. - I see, okay. - So, and it's also nice for, you know, I, if you're checking into an airport, for example, if you're getting onto your plane, everybody uses the, you know, the plane tickets that are right there on your phone nowadays. - Right. - And if you're walking up and they have just like the desk that you put your phone face down on, that's fine.

But I've noticed that more and more, some plane flights, the people checking you in for your flight, they have a handheld scanner.

And when they have a handheld scanner, I actually prefer to use my Apple Watch because that way I don't have to take my phone out and put it back in.

It's just my watch is on my arm.

So as I'm getting close to the end, I just, you know, double tap on the side, scroll down to like my little check-in thing and it'll bring up the QR code there. - The boarding pass, right? - The boarding pass.

And then so I have my bags in my hand and I just, you know, put my watch there and I just show on my watch and they scan it.

They know how to do that.

So anyway, Apple Pay and the ancillary things that you can do related to the wallet app is just such a great thing on the Apple Watch.

It was there on day one, 10 years ago. - Right. - It's even more useful for today.

And I just, I can't recommend it enough.

So if you don't take full advantage of all of these Apple Pay and related wallet things in your Apple Watch, I encourage you to start doing so because once you do, it's just the most convenient way to pay, it's just so nice. - I'm so glad you're mentioning this because that's exactly the party that I fall into.

I haven't been taken advantage of it.

I think I tried it using my Apple Wallet, you know, paying on the Apple Watch several years ago.

And it just, it felt finicky or, you know, there was like once or twice where I tried it on the Apple Watch and it didn't work.

So I had to get my phone out.

And I'm like, I don't want to bother with that.

I'll just get my phone out.

Well, now that's ingrained in me.

And I'm like, I'm constantly using my boarding pass on my phone, but I have to get it out.

But I'm going to try that now.

Like I'm going to go back to doing sort of the Apple Watch.

And I think you mentioned in your post today that that's what you were doing.

Like you said, when you were at Jazz Fest, you know, just going around and being able to use that so much easier on that good stuff on there.

Man, Apple Watch just keeps giving.

I love it. (laughs) That's great.

Thanks again to Lit Software for sponsoring us today.

You can go to litsoftware.com and check out Trialpad and Transcriptpad.

We'll talk about a couple of other apps in the upcoming weeks as well.

Great stuff.

Happy birthday, Apple Watch.

And Jeff, we'll talk with you next week. - Thanks, Brett.