Welcome to In the News for August the 8th, 2025.

I am Brett Burney from appsinlaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhoneJD.

Hey, Brett.

It is August 8th.

It is the eighth month.

And for anybody that's counting, Jeff, this is our 208th episode.

Oh, well, there you go. I did not know that.

There's a lot of eights happening today, which is really nice.

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But let's jump into an interesting little piece that you started your post off with today.

how many CEOs has Apple had?

I feel like this could be like a Jeopardy question.

How many CEOs, although that's the question, not the answer.

Okay, I get it.

But I did not realize until I read your post today,

Apple has actually had seven CEOs since the company was founded in 1977.

I always think of Steve Jobs, just like you.

Of course, Tim Cook has reigned longer now as CEO than Steve Jobs' tenure, which is unbelievable to me as well.

But just some interesting facts you shared with us this morning, Jeff.

Yeah, I had to actually look up how many CEOs there had been because I could not remember.

I did remember, for example, that, you know, you think of Apple being founded by the two guys in the garage, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak in the 1970s.

But neither one of them was actually the CEO.

Steve Wozniak, of course, would never really have that sort of role.

He was married to the Tinkerer and stuff like that.

But I actually was, you know, it might, you might think, oh, well, Steve Jobs was the

first CEO, but actually that's not true because when they started the company, there was a

guy named Mike Markala, who was the third employee who was like, no, we need adult supervision.

And so we need to hire a professional CEO.

And so the first one that they hired was Michael Scott, which is funny because whenever I see

the name Michael Scott, I think, of course, of the office.

But so he was the first CEO and he did it for a couple of years.

And then Mike Markala himself became the CEO.

And then after that, they needed to find somebody else.

And famously, the CEO was John Scully, who Steve Jobs had recruited from Pepsi.

And the famous line that he had to John Scully was, you know, do you want to, you know, sell sugar water for the rest of your life or do you want to change the world?

Now, ironically, although he recruited John Scully to come and Scully was the CEO for 10 years, Scully was later that was eventually the person that that kicked Steve Jobs out of the company for a number of reasons.

And then Steve Jobs went on to found Next Computer, which Apple then bought back in the 1990s and stuff like that.

And Scully, you know, one of Scully things that he was known for was the he really liked the idea of a PDA.

You know, the Newton came out. He really thought that was the future.

Clearly, he was history has shown he was right, given the iPhone.

It's just that it was so early back then that the technology wasn't quite there for it.

And then Michael Spindler was a horrible CEO, did not do a very good job at all.

Gil Emilio was even worse.

The only good thing that Gil Emilio did was just made the decision to get Next and Steve Jobs back in the company.

And, you know, Gil himself sort of refers to that, you know, when he would talk in later years, that was his claim to fame.

But he was boring to listen to and people had bad thoughts about him.

But then after those two years, then Steve Jobs came in.

And initially in 97, he said that he was not going to be the CEO, but he was going to just

be an interim CEO, the I CEO, until they could find somebody to run the company.

And he did that for about three years.

And then in 2000, at the Mac World Conference in San Francisco, he said, you know what?

I'm dropping the letter I.

I'm just the CEO.

And so that rise under Steve Jobs from 97, he comes into the company, they come out with

the iMac.

Then after that, it was the iPod.

Then it was the iPhone and everything else.

know, that range from 97 to 2011 was just so huge that in my mind, you know, between Steve Jobs being

the founder, although he technically wasn't the CEO, and that incredible period of time that he was

there, I just think of Steve Jobs being Apple CEO. I mean, my brain still says, oh, Tim Cook's the

new guy. Tim Cook's just the guy that, you know, was after Steve. So anyway, so with that little

brief walk down memory lane, you know, that's why it was amazing that Tim Cook, I mean, is now just

a few days more, but it'll get more every day. He has been the CEO more than Steve Jobs. And,

you know, obviously he came in because Steve Jobs got sick. We all not know that. And eventually,

you know, passed away from pancreatic cancer. But, you know, Steve Jobs was known for a lot of

things, good, bad, and otherwise, you know, certainly innovation. And he had that just great

sense of like, what was a good product and how to make things a good product. Tim Cook was more

from the operations side. And as Apple matured as a company, what they really needed was,

especially with the iPhone, you know, the company became so huge. I mean, one of the largest

companies, sometimes the largest company in the world nowadays, they needed someone to manage that.

And Cook has done just an amazing job between the financial stuff, you know, supplies, you know,

getting things made on time. Nowadays, of course, with the world politics, including our own country,

but we have politics and stuff. You know, I think he is the right CEO for this phase of Apple's life,

But he is 64 years old. He'll be 65 this, I think his birthday's in maybe November or something.

So, you know, you do wonder what the future is going to be.

I don't know how much longer he'll want the job.

I hope he sticks around for the next couple of years.

But Apple has got to be thinking about what's next.

You know, you mentioned the politics side, and we're not going to go down there.

But, you know, maybe after this, Tim Cook could start making trophies out of Corning glass and 24 karat gold.

I'm sure you saw that story.

He did the White House providing.

I mean, all politics aside, it was it was an interesting little divide.

It was a once made like from Corning right in Kentucky, a glass.

And then it had a base of gold from Utah.

I just thought that was interesting.

The entire news conference wasn't that interesting to me.

It was a little uncomfortable, I would say.

But anyway, okay, so let's wrap this up quickly because you also mentioned,

I think we've talked about this a couple of times on the podcast.

In fact, I know that we have.

Who is going to be next?

I mean, I don't want Tim Cook to go away.

I really truly believe he has been an amazing CEO.

But I know that there has been some speculation about who is going to take over from there.

Let's see.

You had another story here.

Oh, here it is.

This was, I thought, a nice little portrait here of some of the people that could take over.

You know, some of the standouts would be Hair Force One, Craig Frederighi.

But he's pretty old as well.

Greg Joswiak, otherwise known as Jaws, is also old.

And I don't mean that in a derogatory manner.

It's just that they're aging a little bit and they may or may not even want to have that job.

I would put my money on John Ternus.

We've talked about John Ternus.

He has been a nice face over the years on several keynote and presentations that Apple has made.

And I really like him.

I mean, I just feel like he's just got a great leadership aspect.

Now, I don't know too much more below that other than just seeing him on the screen, and that's not enough to really determine if he's going to be a good CEO.

But I just have a good feeling about John Ternus.

Yeah.

Jeff Williams had been rumored to be the person that if Steve Jobs got – I mean if Tim Cook, excuse me, got hit by a bus, he would come in and take over.

But we talked a few weeks ago about the fact that Jeff Williams, who's a very senior executive, announced that he's going to be retiring this year.

That's right.

You know, there may have been a time years ago where he would have been the person to take over, but that's not.

And I agree with you that of the people, I mean, first of all, to back up a little bit more, Apple historically at the highest level, you know, in terms of bringing in folks from other companies to be the CEO.

We just talked about some of that with, you know, Gil Amelio and Spindler and stuff.

But even at the second tier, you know, senior vice presidents, when Apple has brought in people from other companies, you know, some have worked better than others, but it's hard.

Apple is a very unique company.

It's got a unique culture.

And I think it would be incredibly, I mean, almost impossible for somebody to replace

Tim Cook, who has not been at Apple for years and years.

I mean, maybe in some, you know, bizarro world, the perfect person, but I just don't see that

happening.

And so it's got to be somebody that's there now.

And you'd think that to have the experience, it would have to be a senior executive person.

And we know those people.

I mean, they're right there on the Apple, you know, leadership webpage.

You can see their pictures.

And so when you look through that list, I agree, John Ternus is, does seem to be the natural person.

There may be some other people that are just a little bit lower that are not on our radar screen now.

And maybe if Tim Cook stays CEO for another five years or so, maybe they'll bubble up to the top.

But I mean, you know, Apple's thinking about this.

They're a big company.

They've done transition.

Oh, yes.

Oh, yes.

I mean, there's several folks.

I just like, who is this by?

This is William Gallagher.

Okay, great.

Long time.

Apple Insider.

He does.

And I like this.

You know, after those three that we just mentioned, he's got a short list down here at the bottom.

And, you know, Eddie Q, of course, I didn't even think about.

But again, he's a little bit on the aging side.

Deidre O'Brien, which I remember wasn't.

Yeah, she started or she managed the physical Apple stores, I think, in the beginning.

Is that right?

Or she was involved in that from the beginning.

So she does.

If I remember correctly, I think she's human resources.

But then once Angela Aarons, who another person from outside, she's the one that came to Apple from Berber.

You mentioned this down here.

And was there for a number of years, but then Deidre sort of took over her job.

She is she would be a possibility.

I agree that that's I think she's got to be on that short list along with John Ternus.

You know, she obviously doesn't come from the product side.

But then again, Tim Cook didn't either.

He was a C the CF, CF, whatever he was before.

So I agree that she is she would likely be on the list.

So.

Well, I'm sure they are talking about it and they have been talking about it, just like you say.

While we are on the topic of speculation, why don't we speculate a little bit about when the next big announcement from Apple will be?

And I started seeing some of these rumors earlier this week.

I know that you have been following them as well.

All arrows point to possibly Tuesday, September 9th, which is what, barely in a month from today, that Apple may have their next announcement.

Now, there are no details from Apple about this at all, but we have been speculating and we continue to speculate and we will continue to speculate for the next month.

They will have a new iPhone, hopefully a new couple of new Apple Watches, maybe a new AirPods.

Who knows what this is going to be?

But you can pretty much put some money on a new iPhone, iPhone 17 for sure.

Yeah.

I mean, there's no question that Apple loves to announce these things in the first two weeks of September.

So that much, you know, unless there's something like, you know, a global pandemic hit COVID, you know, unless there's really extraordinary circumstances, it's going to be in those first two weeks.

And I did the math on this in a post. Yeah, you just brought it up about a year ago where you can look, you know, Apple is a creature of habit.

And you can go back almost 15 years and you can see that Apple loves to have it in early September.

And they look at the calendar and on the on on the years where Labor Day occurs really early, September 4th or later, it would be the Tuesday of the following week.

And if Labor Day is a little bit later, so I mean, you can do that math and you can say this is the date that it would likely be.

And that gets you to September 9th this year. Now, last year, it would have gotten you to September 10th, I believe.

I did all this math. Oh, really? But there was a there was a Monday.

last year we talked about this on the podcast but there was a speculation that apple wanted to change

the date because there was the presidential debate i think between kamala harris and trump whatever

it was right for whatever reason last year was a little bit off but it ended up being september

9th of last year but if apple returns to form and i suspect that they will both this year 2025 and

next year 2026 september 9th would be the natural date so again unless something unusual happens

That is my prediction.

So mark your calendar today.

Mark your calendar for 2026 if you want to plan ahead.

I already marked it.

Apple usually announces this at the end of August.

So I think we're just a few weeks away from the date.

And again, like you say, what Apple announces, it's always the iPhone.

And then there's some other things that they often announce at the same time.

But it will be, you know, often AirPods, for example.

There are things that there have been rumored that Apple might be doing, like a new Apple TV.

I don't know if a new Apple TV device would be in the September announcement

or maybe a little bit closer to Christmas.

Who knows?

For a long time now,

there have been the rumors of this HomePod device

with the screen.

You would think if it's going to come out this year,

Apple would want it out before Christmas,

but that doesn't have to be September.

I mean, that could be in October

or maybe even November announcement,

but the iPhone for sure is the big thing.

And as we've talked in previous podcasts,

I think that the rumor, of course,

is that Apple is going to come out with a really thin,

of course, it's going to have new versions

of the iPhones we love and love,

but the thing that's new and shiny

be a thin version this year and that will set the stage for 2026 for the hamdip to have a version

that is not only thin but able to fold and open up into something about the size of an ipad mini

and close down so um so you know if you you or your loved ones are thinking about getting new

iphones keep this in mind don't get an iphone hold off you know don't get one this week they're

in fact i literally had somebody in my office say yesterday i think it's time for a new iphone i'm

like, well, good thought. Hold off on that for about a month. Hold on. We'll see what the new

models, and maybe you want the new model, or maybe you don't need the new model. Maybe you'll be happy

with what then becomes last year's model, but you'll be able to get a discount on it. So one way or the

other, it always amazes me when I look at Apple's financial announcements, the number of iPhones

that they do sell in the months of August and late July, because I'm like, gosh, don't people

realize? But again, if you need an iPhone, you need an iPhone. And some people are not always

paying attention to the calendar. But smart folks that listen to this podcast know September 9th,

this year, September 9th. You're welcome. Okay, so remind me now, if Tuesday, September 9th,

is when the presentation will happen, the keynote address, right? But you won't be able to pre-order

it. Typically, it's that Friday, right, when you can actually make a pre-order of that. And then

is it the next week? I see right here in this article from Tim Hardware, it's usually the next

week that the actual physical phones will show up in the Apple retail stores. Is that typically how

it goes as well, Jeff? Yeah. And it varies. Sometimes it's that Friday, sometimes the next

one. So if you look at this calendar year, 2025, September 9th is a Tuesday. And so I could see

pre-orders on September 12th, but I actually think it's just as likely that we'll have pre-orders

on September 19th. It'll probably be one of those two dates. And then like you say, the availability

will probably be a week after that.

So that means that they'll probably be in stores

maybe September 19th, maybe September 26th.

And then another thing to keep in mind

is Apple has sometimes over the years

had different models available at different times.

Like sometime they would have like

only the low end model at first

and then the high end, sometimes the high end.

If the rumors are true,

if there's gonna be the thin phone this year,

then clearly that's gonna get all the media attention

because it's a new form factor.

And so, I mean, I am not a marketing professional, but what I could see Apple doing is first having an iPhone with a more familiar size, whether it's the current, you know, or the Macs.

I could see that one going on sale first, just so they could get the press cycle of the coverage, you know, first looks and everything else.

And then, because if they have the shiny new one first, the thin version, assuming that the rumors are true, that would seem to steal the spotlight from the traditional sizes.

So it wouldn't surprise me if Apple says, you know, you know, in the next week or two, you're going to be able to buy and then go into the store and get something very similar to this year's models, but with a new camera.

And by the way, we didn't even mention that.

Another rumor is that the very back of the iPhone is instead of the little in the square with all the cameras, that it's going to be a bar that goes across the entire back of the iPhone cameras there and presumably much better cameras.

But so that would be my guess is that in mid-September, we'll be getting something just like a bump over this year's model, literally a bump on the back of it.

And then would it be late September? Would it maybe even be early October? Then the new fancy thin model? That's my guess, but we'll see.

Well, Tim Hardwick in this article mentions, because again, Apple, creature of habit on this, they will send a press invitation about a week before that event.

So we may not know if September 9th is correct until about September the 2nd, when theoretically those when those emails will come out.

And even us normal non-journalist people will typically get an email like Apple will say, hey, something's coming up.

You know, if you've subscribed to their, I don't think you have to be a developer or anything, but typically your, their new newsletter email will come out on that.

Okay.

And then the last thing on this quickly is when does that coincide with the release of the next operating system?

So we've been talking about iOS 26 coming out, right?

Because I think that that gets released probably that week, no matter what phone that you have, right?

If you can upgrade, then you can upgrade on that.

And there's a couple of stories that we're going to talk about here about with iOS 26.

But when does that typically happen, Jeff?

Yeah, my guess is it's that week.

Oftentimes, the new operating system comes out right around the same time you can pre-order the new iPhone.

So, like, traditionally, one of the very, like, I get a new iPhone every year, at least I traditionally have, I presume, this year.

And so, like, one of the last things I often do with my current iPhone is put the new operating system on there, and I use it for a week.

And then when I get the new phone, which, of course, also has a new operating system, that's actually nice.

It's already going to be there.

It means it's a little bit easier to make the transition when you're sort of going sideways as opposed to doing the big processor upgrade.

So my guess is that week of September 9th, we will see the final version of iOS 26, iPadOS 26, and all the other new 26 varieties.

We've talked a few updates about iOS 26, and I feel like this is maybe the third or fourth one we've talked about where the Apple Maps app is going to be updated.

You had a story here on 9to5Mac from Ryan Christoffel where iOS 26 beta adds a surprise Apple Maps feature that could prove very useful.

And basically, it's about location-based AI search, if I'm saying that correct.

I mean, I'm just getting more excited about the improvements to Apple Maps.

Just even that app alone is going to be pretty cool.

Yeah.

Apple clearly is trying to do everything they can with AI because it's not only because it's the buzz thing, but also because it's so much more useful.

The rumor here is that AI will be able to, you know, let you use natural language searches and understand and parse your language.

So that instead of being very precise in what you're searching for, you can be a little bit more just just talking like you're talking to a friend.

You know, they, you know, search the way you talk is the way that it's described in the current beta.

You know, the example that was here is, you know, find me, you know, a cafe I can go to that's got free Wi-Fi in the vicinity.

And you just say those words, however it's natural to you, the Maps app will understand it.

And it will do the complicated searches of, first of all, I need to figure out where you're located.

Second of all, I need to find some places you can get coffee around here.

Third of all, which one of those advertise that they have free Wi-Fi, which is most of them, of course.

But, you know, if that's something that's advertised in, you know, something about the, you know, the Yelp description or something like that.

So it's doing a couple of different steps and then it's returning you a result.

And, you know, this is a very simple version of the thing that's all the buzz in AI nowadays is agentic AIs, you know, agents.

The idea that you can just tell the AI the end result that you want and it will go through the different steps to do it.

I mean, I know as a lawyer, this is sort of the new thing that, you know, a lot of the tools that lawyers use, you know, Westlaw, Harvey, all these other ones, Lexus, Fastcase and AI, you know, they're coming up with, you know, we have AIs now.

That's still the new thing.

But the next step is to put together a couple of different steps.

And so you can just tell it what you want and it goes through the steps to put it together to do it for you.

So, and this is just a little example of it in the context of the Maps app.

So, so that's cool.

Another.

Yeah.

Yeah, definitely.

Another quick little update that you mentioned.

This is, I think of it as CarPlay, but it's actually iOS 26 because that's how CarPlay is going to work, right?

With your phone.

Right.

But I'm very happy about this.

If you're driving down the road, and I think Ryan Christoffel mentions this, and you're following the map, which I'm doing almost all the time, or watching the map, all of a sudden I get a phone call.

The entire screen announces that it's a phone call coming, and I can't see the map.

I can't do anything.

Well, thankfully, I guess Apple has heard our screams of terror as we are trying to find our way without a map.

And now, instead of it taking over the entire screen, when you get a phone call in CarPlay with iOS 26,

it's just going to be a nice little pop-up that happens at the bottom of the screen,

which I kind of similarly think of like if I get a message, right?

If somebody texts me while I'm driving, it's just a little message at the bottom,

and I can tap it if I wanted to hear it kind of a thing.

And to me, I'm just, this is a no-brainer.

Thank you for making this small but important change.

Yeah, this is one of those things that once you see it, and anyone looking at the video right now can see what you're showing on your screen, once you see it, you're instantly like, oh, yeah, that's better.

Of course.

That's how it should be, of course.

So no-brainer.

Very nice.

Yeah, very good.

You also mentioned quickly while we're on CarPlay for all of your many readers of iPhone JD that what did you say?

Drive a Lotus car and more specifically the electric electric and a may a may a models.

You can now get spatial audio playing CarPlay in those specific Lotus cars.

So you're welcome. All you Lotus drivers out there.

You can now listen in spatial audio, which I didn't even really think about.

But I mean, to me, I feel like actually a car would be a perfect place to listen in spatial audio.

I mean, you have to have a nice enough car to have lots of speakers and, you know, enough of sound isolation in the car that you can take advantage of the speakers.

But I remember this came out a while ago.

There's a number of the article here listed there's a number of cars that actually support spatial audio right now.

So this is just the newest one.

You know, in my the sound system in my simple little Honda Accord ain't nearly sophisticated enough for me to have any idea.

I mean, whether it was spatial, non-spatial, I mean, I'm just happy to be able to listen to a podcast in there.

But but if you have a high end car that, you know, can support this, whether it's a Lotus or one of these other ones, then spatial audio and CarPlay.

I know that there are some people that don't like spatial audio.

You know, it's been out. It's been a couple of years now that it's been out.

And I sometimes hear people say, oh, it doesn't seem right.

I personally I mean, sometimes I don't notice it at all.

But when I do notice it, if, you know, I actually sometimes sort of like it because it does make

you feel a little bit more immersive.

You know, my, my AirPod pros can do it.

And sometimes I'll even be in my TV room.

That's got like a, you know, 5.1 speaker system with its around you.

And, uh, you know, if it's a nicely done mix of sound, I actually think it's sort of cool.

I like, I like special audio, but, um, but you know, people have all their preferences

for audio.

Some people are purists and say, oh no, it should only be stereo or whatever, but you

know, whatever.

People will always disagree with audio, but it's an interesting feature.

You could turn it off, right?

I mean, I feel like that's the easy way to go about it.

I just like having that option in there.

And apparently other vehicle brands, including Rivian, Polestar, and Lucid, I don't even know a couple of those necessarily, but they also offer spatial audio.

You know, it just continues to think.

We've talked about this several times with CarPlay.

I feel like more and more, I hope the pressure is on car manufacturers that they have to give more.

They have to consent more to Apple's taking over of not just the dashboard, but maybe also even the sound system now,

which obviously I'm a big proponent of because I just feel like sometimes when I drive cars,

I just detest sometimes the interface that they have on those screens.

I know car manufacturers try really hard and they don't want to give up more concessions to Apple on this.

But I want that.

Like I want my experience, my interface to be consistent across any car that I get in.

But I know that's kind of a first world problem a little bit there.

But I feel like this is just another area.

Like I would love to have the option, the option, if I wanted to turn on spatial audio for a certain car.

I mean, to me, the car, I love listening to music in the car because it is surrounding.

And the fact that you could have that spatial audio, I think, is just another great option there.

So we have long lamented the discontinuation of the MagSafe battery pack.

In fact, I have mine right over in my briefcase as well.

You're bringing yours up on here.

This was a fantastic device from Apple that you could slap on the back of your MagSafe empowered iPhone.

Exactly.

It fit beautifully on there.

And in fact, I heard people talk about this.

You don't necessarily think of it as a battery to keep your iPhone, to charge your iPhone.

It's almost like it's really just to top off your iPhone at the end of the day.

It's just that little additional thing.

Like this isn't going to charge your iPhone for an entire day.

But it certainly is going to make sure you can get it for another two, three, four hours.

I like it so much, just like you, Jeff.

I still have mine.

In fact, it's the only thing in my entire briefcase that still requires a lightning charging cable.

Right, right, right.

And so I still carry one just for that reason.

I don't know why Apple did not create one that has USB-C just like everything else.

But thankfully, you found an alternative device that we could look at instead.

And I'm pretty curious about this little Belkin Boost Charge Pro Magnetic Power Bank G2.

That's a mouthful of a product, but thank you, Belkin, for at least giving us another option here to the long, sad, gone MagSafe battery pack from Apple.

Yeah, I love this form factor, the MagSafe one specifically, because, I mean, the thing, it's so tiny, it weighs nothing.

Yeah.

Although with my current iPhone with the Max, I mean, I've got so much battery life, it's fine.

But, you know, there have been times where, you know, for whatever reason, I've been using a lot, you know, maybe my cellular connection has not been great.

And so that the battery has been going down more than normal.

and you're just like you know i'm heading off somewhere and i just want to make sure i'm going

to be good for battery life and i could just throw this thing in my pocket i don't even feel it and

then just slap it on the back of the phone and like you say it'll just give you that little bit of

boost and so i've had it for a long time with no cable like it it doesn't require a cable that's

what i love about it yeah next via mag safe and and it's so versatile because like you can even

for charging purposes you can stick it on your phone and you can charge your phone it'll also

charge the battery and vice versa so um a number of third parties have have duplicated the form factor

with their own spins. This is just the latest one. I don't even know if it's a new one or something

that's Belkin's had for a while because they have had things like this. But I thought it was an

interesting review from Simon Jerry at Macworld. This Belkin one is interesting because as you can

see on the picture you're showing on your screen, at the very bottom of the Belkin version, it's got

like a little line here and that's a kickstand. It flips out. So you can use it if you want to have

Yeah, here's a picture of that. Look at that. If you want your iPhone to be propped up a little bit.

So, you know, I guess that might be useful in certain circumstances. Why not, you know,

stick it on there. But the form factor is the key. And it just it's just nice. So if you're looking

for and again, I also have like the huge chargers, the big things that I carry with me when you want

lots and lots of extra charge. But those are heavy. You know, sometimes you just want something

super light. That's just going to give you that little bit more of oomph. You know, I will often

use it if I'm, you know, my daughter plays basketball. And like sometimes when I'm recording,

I'm doing, you know, 4K video, 60 frames per second.

Sure.

You know, maybe in a place that doesn't have good cell connection.

I mean, all those things draw the battery.

And I'm like, gosh, I hope if it's going to be like, maybe it's a doubleheader two games

in a row.

I certainly wouldn't want to run out of battery.

Well, just take a small device like this and throw it in your pocket and you're good to

go.

So anyway, so I thought it was a good review.

If you don't currently own a device like this, I don't know much more about the Velcro one

based upon this review.

And I know that there are other companies.

I think Anchor makes one too.

Some others do.

But it's not a bad thing to throw into your briefcase, your purse, just to have.

It's nice.

Like you said, there's been several third parties that have done that.

I mean, some named third parties that we're familiar with, like Belkin and Anchor.

There's been many others on Amazon, if you go and look.

And I've tried a couple of those.

And I got to tell you, the biggest difference for me, and it's not that big of a deal,

but when you put the Apple Mac Safe battery on the back, Jeff, the screen interacts with that.

Like, it'll pop on and it shows you, you know, how much power is in there.

Like I feel like it has a little bit more interaction with the battery.

I don't know.

I certainly know with some of those knockoff brands,

it did not interact with it the same way.

I don't know so much about the Belkin.

If they do that, maybe they have something else that pops on on there.

But it just felt like with the, that's another reason I liked the Apple one,

because I feel like that the battery, you know,

it told me immediately how much battery life was in that MagSafe battery when I popped it onto the back.

And I don't know that Simon Jerry talks about that here in his review if it does that.

But I really did like that.

That's why I kind of got rid of those others that I used.

And I still keep that Apple MagSafe because I like that tiny little feature right there, which is nice.

He also makes sure, I think this starts at $59.99.

I'm trying to remember, how much was that MagSafe when it first came out?

I thought it was $100.

It was $100, wasn't it?

Yeah.

It was $99.99.

I know I got mine for a little bit less than that because I think there was some sales or so through the years.

But, I mean, we've had ours for at least two or three years now at this point.

So, anyway, it might be interesting.

It might be time to look at upgrading or changing.

I mean, the Belkin has several different colors here, which is cool.

I like this, the yellow and the pink and everything.

Yeah, that's nice.

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Jeff, you are doing a service to the Apple community.

Well, more specifically to the Apple Vision Pro community because you keep an amazing list of Apple's immersive video content on iPhone JD.

I don't know that anybody else is really doing this.

Maybe somebody else has done it because you started doing it.

But I just appreciate the fact that you keep this updated.

And thank goodness now, in addition to all of the shows that you list, we now have immersive orangutans.

And I'm pretty excited to see this one day.

Yeah.

I heard about a week or two ago that Apple was coming out with this episode.

You know, one of the series they have on Apple Vision Pro is called, I think it's called Wildlife.

And they have some fun sort of nature ones.

There was like, you know, sharks and what was it?

Rhinos, elephant, sharks.

And so when I heard they were coming out with orangutans, I'm like, okay, you know, that's another one.

You know, I'm not the biggest nature person.

It's not like I watch the Discovery Channel all the time.

And so when I first heard about this, I was like, you know, whatever.

That sounds nice.

But last night I had put together this post and I was about to get published.

And I was like, you know what?

I'm going to go downstairs and put on my Vision Pro because I want to say it came out at like 11 p.m. Central or whatever it was.

But it was close to midnight.

I was almost ready for bed.

And I was like, let me just go watch this thing.

It's about 10 minutes long.

And I was blown away.

It was so, so good.

I'm like, wow.

By the orangutans?

That's great.

I did not expect to be so enthralled by the orangutans.

It's this really cool, there's this island in Southeast Asia called Borneo.

Borneo, yeah.

A couple different countries that have different parts of the islands.

I think Indonesia has this part of it.

But it's this wildlife place for orangutans that need rehabilitation.

And so they work with these veterinarians that sort of help them get prepared for the wild

to then be released back into the wild.

but the orangutans Brett are so cute I mean they have these eyes and they look at you and they're

like this close to your camera they're right there you're right there they are funny they are playing

with each other they are wrestling around there's big orangutans through this there's one huge one

that comes out that reminds me of the orangutan that was in the planet of the apes movie who's

like you know the king of the jungle in this area okay yeah it was just you know again as I mentioned

in my post I you know whenever I go to the zoo we have a great zoo here in New Orleans and you know

the primate exhibit is always interesting, but the orangutans are always particularly fun to watch

because they look like the kids playing around, having fun. But you're like 50 feet, 100 feet

away from them, right? In this video, when you're wearing the Apple Vision Pro, they are right there

like they're jumping on you. And I was blown away by it. And the other thing that I mentioned is

the orangutans love to climb trees. And again, when you see them in a zoo, you know, maybe there's

something that's, I don't know, 50 feet high. But here in the actual forest, I don't even know how

they did this logistically. They must have rigged up this camera system so that the camera would go

up into the air hundreds of feet and would follow this mother orangutan and the little child that

is like, she's going up the tree and he's following his mom up the tree. And you are just slowly going

up with them. And because it's immersive, you look around and I'm looking up in the sky,

Brett, and I'm seeing big orangutans and I'm looking down and seeing little orangutans.

It's like, this is awesome.

This is so awesome.

So I was blown.

I thought it would be cute.

I did not expect to be blown away.

But I'm here to tell you, Brett, the next time that you and I are together and you want to look at Vision Pro content, top of the list.

Top of the list is orangutans.

And I don't know if they're going to show this one off at an Apple store.

But if you go to an Apple store and look at the Vision Pro, tell them you want to see the orangutans.

And maybe they'll let you watch a couple minutes of it.

It was really.

I would just be still more, I would be even more interested if they said that they actually gave the cameras to the orangutans.

I mean, that to me would be the next step that they could do.

I just want to, I want to go back to your page.

This is great.

iPhone JD slash, let's see, it's Apple Immersive, right?

iPhoneJD.com slash Apple Immersive.

Just all one word, no dashes or anything.

What a great list here.

I mean, certainly if you have a Vision Pro, you have to bookmark this page on your website, Jeff, because you just do a great job.

And I see that you do group them together because there is an adventure set.

That was that highlining one.

I remember I watched that one when we were together.

And that's really, really cool.

Then they have a boundless group.

They have the wildlife group.

And that's where these orangutans, they've done rhinos, elephants, sharks, and now orangutans.

Even just looking at this little cover picture here from Apple TV.

I mean, I'm looking right at this orangutan.

And I mean, this is just a picture.

But I can only imagine, knowing what I know now, looking at an Apple Vision Pro, that that would be really cool to see them up close like that.

Good stuff.

In the show, I mean, really, that was kind of in the show right there, in the show with the ring tanks.

But let's talk about just quickly some of the fall lineup shows of Apple TV+.

I have to just tell you, my wife and my daughter have been watching Ted Lasso.

She had never seen it.

And my wife is watching it again, and I'm kind of catching it off to the side.

And it's just fun to watch some of those episodes again.

And I know that that's probably not coming in the fall, right?

We're waiting for that.

But there are several other shows that are expected to come coming up in just maybe in a month or so.

One of the ones that I'm most excited about, Slow Horses, of course, season five.

I can't believe it's season five already.

But yay, I'm ready for that one already.

Yeah.

I mean, back in the world of network TV, you know, when you and I were growing up, you know, we would always look for, you know, must see TV in the fall, you know, all the fall previews.

Oh, yes.

Nowadays, in the streaming world, new shows come out throughout the year.

So there's nothing special about the fall.

But I feel like, you know, just a part of my heart still thinks of the fall as though the new TV shows are coming out.

Yeah.

And so there are.

So as we look forward to September and October and November, there's a nice list here of stuff, you know, returning things like the morning show, which has been good and stuff.

But I mentioned the two that I'm particularly looking forward to.

You just mentioned Slow Horses.

That show is so fantastic.

Yeah.

I can't wait for the new season.

That's going to be great fun.

You and I talked about a week or two ago about this new one called Pluribus, which is from

the folks that made Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.

And so that's going to be really good.

I suspect it's going to be good.

But there's other ones, too.

In fact, you just scroll past on this list here, the one that has Stiller and Mira.

So, of course, Ben Stiller does Severance.

And his parents were the infamous comedy Stiller and Miller.

In fact, in that picture you're showing, that's Ben Stiller in the bottom left there in the corner, a very young Ben Stiller.

So he grew up in the industry.

George's father is the way I know George Costanza's father.

Yes, of course, of course.

But apparently he put together a documentary about his parents who were just such icons and so beloved in the industry.

So that one might be, I mean, this is obviously a love letter to his parents, but it might be fun to watch.

So that's a documentary that's coming out this fall.

There's a bunch of things in the list, lots of them with, you know, huge stars that, you

know, from other things that are coming out.

So it's going to be fun.

It's always nice to know that there is new things coming down the road.

And, you know, and as a transition to I just started last weekend, I was at the I was I

had a beach vacation last week, which I'm going to talk about in a second.

I brought my Vision Pro.

And one of the things that I did was I one night I had some time and I watched the new

series on Apple TV Plus that stars and was created by Jason Momoa called Chief of War.

Oh, yeah. Haven't started that yet. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually really interesting. It's almost

an entirely Apollosian cast. It's based upon a true story. It has to do with the islands of Hawaii

back in. I'm going to get I'm going to get the dates wrong here. The 1800s, maybe. I don't know.

Right. Right. Each each of the islands in Hawaii, you know, Oahu, Maui, Hawaii,

They had their own chieftain, you know, their own sort of kingdoms.

And then, you know, there were some warring factions between them and stuff like that.

And so Jason Momoa plays, you know, one of those.

Well, spoiler alert, he's not at the beginning, but I suspect he's going to become one of the big leaders.

It's really well done.

I thought, I mean, the filming of it, I presume it was filmed in Hawaii.

It's beautiful, as you can imagine, you know, filming in Hawaii and, you know, in a time period where there's there's nothing, you know, industrialized.

you're really seeing the natural beauty of the islands and the water.

It's really, really well done.

Exciting.

They speak in the language of whatever the original island speak was.

So it's subtitled.

Oh, really?

So keep that in mind.

Some people don't like subtitled shows, but this one actually works well.

And it's not completely subtitled without any spoilers.

I can already say that there's parts of it that are not going to be.

But I think it's really well done.

It's action.

It's adventure.

It's beautiful to watch.

Yeah, there's the picture of a chief of war.

So far, I'm enjoying it.

I've seen the first two episodes and I guess they dropped the first two episodes last week.

And then episode three, which I see is called City of Flowers, is, well, I guess it's available today.

I could go home and watch it today.

So I would recommend it.

I thought it was good.

Yeah.

And episode four is coming out next week.

I mean, this is where, you know, you were just talking about Must See TV.

We had to wait every week for the new episode, you know, in the season.

And now we've talked about this before.

Apple and several other streaming services will do something similar like that.

You know, they'll have a new episode every – I remember watching Severance.

We had to do that.

Interesting.

Speaking of Severance, this is – if you have not watched Severance, do not click on this video at the bottom of Jeff's post today.

I cannot believe you did such a heinous thing and put this video at the bottom of your post today, Jeff,

Because it is so tempting to click play.

Now, I have seen all episodes of Severance.

And just like you said in your post today, it was a nice, fun little walk down memory lane on this.

To watch this interesting, interesting scene toward the, I forget what episode this was.

It was in season three here, of course.

But it was just, or two, it was interesting.

Yeah, sorry.

Season two.

Season three is not yet.

But it was interesting to kind of just watch this again.

knowing what we know now, finishing season two, to go back and watch this thing,

which was really very, very pivotal, you know, toward the end.

But don't click play if you have not seen Severance yet.

No spoilers, but I will say if you have seen it, you know what the scene is with the video camera and the writers.

To come up with the idea of doing this scene, I'm like, oh, that is very clever.

crazy way that it was actually played out i mean when i saw this episode i'm like oh this is so good

and so this youtube clip that apple dropped this week i think it's only three minutes so it's not

the entire scene in question that's right that's right it shows the key part of it and when i

watched it last night i'm like oh this just reminds me i watched i watched this three minute clip and

i'm like you know what i just need to drop everything and re-watch all of season two again

re-watch such a good show and i will but before season three comes out whenever that is probably

next year or the year afterwards i will uh i'm sure i will re-watch season two and i look forward to

it but severance is oh great show i just i remember watching the scene and getting stuck on

the camera that he's using like no why why not use it an iphone and of course you know i don't know

this weird dimension that this all this takes place but i'm looking at this and i'm like

i use things like this like really like how do you even know how to use it i mean there is a play

button there anyway i just thought that that was interesting flipping the screen around like like

he does anyway that's very cool no spoilers on that but it was good now technology in the show

severance is fascinating because there are certain aspects of it of course i mean the whole premise

of the show is incredibly futuristic but they purposefully in the alternative world in which

severance exists like for example all of the cars in severance are old cars and it's it's very old

as if that's just you know there's no mention of course these are the cars that you know whoever

it you know so they'll have new technology they'll have old technology and and it's done

purposefully very purposefully to give you sort of a weird feeling of like what is this world it's

just the show is so well crafted i have nothing but respect for you know we talk about the people

the main people behind it like ben stiller and adam scott stuff but you know right the people

that just do set creation and costumes and the writers oh there's just they're they're pros at

the top of their game i hope they get all the emmys uh sometime soon when whatever that is

If you haven't watched it, go watch all the episodes, both seasons, before you go to Jeff's Post today and click play on this.

Don't click play, yes.

No spoilers.

In the know.

In the know.

So it sounds like both of us were on a little bit of a vacation.

I am actually up in Maine right now with my family.

And we are in northern Maine where there are many, many, many, many lakes.

And, of course, it's the summertime in Maine, and everybody goes and swims in the lake.

And so we did that yesterday.

One of the uncles took us out on a boat, which was just absolutely amazing.

But I always remember when I go swimming, which is admittedly not very often,

that I want to wear my Apple Watch because it tracks, you know, the fact that I'm exercising.

I don't necessarily go into a swim mode, you know, for the exercise.

You could do that.

But I do like to bob up and down and swim around and just not worry about the watch.

Now, I can't just leave the watch on and not do anything, and they're fine.

Now, I have an Apple Watch Ultra 1, but almost all Apple Watches are waterproof in the sense that you really don't have to worry about it when you do swim with your Apple Watch.

However, if you did want to be a little more proactive, we've talked about this before, but I wanted to remind everyone about the water lock on your Apple Watch.

It's very easy to get to.

If you know you're going to be submerging yourself and you want to use the Apple Watch and keep that on, you can simply just go into the control center, which is just pressing the side button, not the digital crown, but the side button on your Apple Watch.

And that will go into control center.

Scroll down until you see a little button that has a water droplet on there.

Now, when you click on that water droplet, you are then putting the Apple Watch into water lock mode.

Now, it says Waterlock also turns on automatically when you begin a water-based workout.

Now, again, I didn't do the workout necessarily, but I did put the Waterlock on.

Now, what that means is that you can still see the time.

Everything is viewable on the face of the watch, but you can't interact with it.

At that point, the buttons don't work necessarily until you turn off Waterlock.

How you turn off Waterlock is you simply press and hold the digital crown.

And it tells you this basically on the screen too.

You press and hold the digital crown.

And after, I don't know, about a second or two seconds, then the water lock will turn off.

In addition to doing that, it will do what I just really think is a brilliant feat of engineering with the Apple Watch.

Maybe it's not that difficult, but for me, it just seems magic.

When you turn off the water lock, it immediately goes into this mode that has been around for several years now on the Apple Watch.

It will eject the water.

So if there is any water that gets into like the speaker holes, it will basically use a vibration to basically vibrate out or eject that water out of those speaker holes.

Now, again, you don't have to worry about anything.

You're not damaging the Apple Watch by going swimming with it or anything.

But I just I like the fact that you can turn on this water lock because I just need to know the time sometimes.

I just wanted to keep my watch on.

But at the end, you press and hold the digital crown to turn off Water Lock so that it works just normal.

But it also does these eject water function, which to me is, again, just still amazing that this little watch can just do that engineering.

And it really just plays that sound.

And you can feel it buzzing on your wrist.

And it just spits out all of that water that may have been, you know, sitting inside the speaker.

So that's Water Lock on the Apple Watch.

Go into Control Center.

Turn that on if you're going to be swimming.

and then at the end you press and hold on the digital crown button to turn off water lock

and deject all that water out of your apple watch often when we do these podcasts brett you are at

home in front of a green screen and you project something interesting behind you but our viewers

should know that you are not in front of a green screen right now those are actual antlers on the

wall behind you those are not yours that's right but uh you are actually on vacation it's i did not

hunt that elk it was one of my other uncles-in-laws but but it's it's huge yes it is it is it is quite

the prize on the wall there much bigger than your head um so you're on vacation now i was on vacation

last week we had a great beach vacation i got together with you know three of my four siblings

and our families and my cousin oh good a whole bunch of us at the beach and so i had no idea you

were going to talk about this tip with the water and the apple watch because that's sort of a subset

i was at some point during my trip i realized especially for a beach vacation but it could be

true no matter where you are you know summer you're in the water the apple watch was just so fantastic

during my vacation last week and i was just going to talk about some of the things that worked so

well for me one of the questions i had is well let me start with the water since you talked about it

you mentioned turning on water lock i noticed that with my apple watch series 10 when i got into the

swimming pool at the place that we were staying it actually turned on automatically so it didn't

I don't know.

Maybe this has something to do with my watch has the depth thing.

I noticed that I'm in the swimming pool and my arm is underwater, right?

About like a foot underwater.

And I see on the face of my Apple Watch that it is showing the app that is used for like scuba diving.

And it tells me, you know, your current depth is one foot underwater.

And if I put my arm really low, it's like you are two feet underwater.

Or if I go swimming underwater sort of across the pool and I come back, it said, you know, you were underwater for 10 seconds and your deepest depth was four feet or whatever it was in the swimming pool.

But it's just sort of funny that, you know, not really necessary information when you're in a swimming pool, more for scuba diving.

But for me, it turned on automatically.

And I don't know if it's because it sensed from the pressure that it was underwater, but it was nice.

And so therefore it was protected and I didn't have to worry about accidentally triggering something.

And then when I was done swimming in the pool, I used the little tip that you had to turn it off.

But, you know, other things, I mean, having just to mention that having an Apple watch on when you're swimming, whether you're in, you know, the the Gulf or the ocean or a pool or a pond, it's nice because you're not going to have your iPhone with you.

But in case like, you know, since I had a whole bunch of family members with me, you know, different people are texting saying, you know, dinner is going to be at 630 or, you know, we're going to meet over here or everybody comes, you know, find us at the water slide or whatever they had to say.

And so it's nice that I could just glance down at my wrist and just even if I'm in the in the in the golf or in the in the water, I could I could see those alerts.

And so that was totally useful to have my Apple Watch as my little buddy, as my guide for that.

Another tip that I used is that oftentimes when I was on the beach on those bright, sunny days, the watch face that I use was the numeral duo.

Numerals duo, which is just really, really big numbers.

And I just have it like a white on black background.

And so you can see it, you know, even when it's super bright outside.

And although my Apple Watch has a pretty bright screen and I think yours may even be even brighter.

Certainly the Ultra 2 is even brighter.

But with that watch face, it was super easy to see the numbers even when I was far away.

And so that was nice.

Yeah, there it is.

Yeah.

Another thing that I found useful was weather.

I have a little widget on the front of my Apple Watch at the very bottom.

The one that I use is carrot weather.

and I like it because if, you know, we were on the beach and there was actually some, some rain

coming through and I'm like, oh, I could see how dark the skies are. And you know, the rain,

fortunately never lasts very long when I'm at the beach, but I'm like, you know, how far away is

this rain? And so I just, you know, on my watch, I could just tap it, tap the little weather thing

and I could tap one button and I could see a live weather map and I could say, oh, I see where the

storm is. You know, it's about to come here and I can see how big it is or how small it is. And so

that was actually nice. Now, again, I could do that with my iPhone, but when I'm sitting there

on the beach, I don't want sand getting in my iPhone. So I have my, I had my iPhone with me.

It was in my beach bag, but it was sometimes I put it in just like a Ziploc bag. I actually had

like a more of a sort of a dedicated beach bag with a clear cover on it, but I don't have to

pull out my iPhone. I mean, it's near me, so my watch can talk to it, but it's my watch that I'm

using to, to interact with all that stuff. Right. I mentioned text messages, but also emails. I mean,

I wasn't trying to get work done, but, you know, I, you know, I'm a lawyer professional and sometimes

you're there and, you know, I have certain people that, you know, clients and stuff like that,

that I have as my VAPs and I will get, you know, my, my wrist will tap me if they send me a message.

And it was nice to be able to just look at my watch, see what the email is. I could dictate

a quick response to the email. You know, I'll, I'll be back in the office on Thursday or whatever.

And so it was nice to have easy access to my emails right there on my Apple watch. That was

great. The find my feature was useful because when I was with a big group of people, you know,

I mentioned that somebody might send a text message of we're going, you know, shopping or

whatever. But sometimes it would be nice that I'm like, okay, no, I know that my daughter,

my wife went shopping and I could say, oh, okay, I can see that they're on their way back. And so

I'm going to pack up from the beach so I can go meet them back at the, at the condo. So the find

my app, cause you can just see right there on your Apple watch from a little map where they're

located media controls. I mean, I, I finished listening to a book at the beach. I mentioned

it a few weeks ago. It was a book called Apple in China, which was a fantastic book. We talked

about that. We talked about that. I really loved it. It had a great ending too. Really, really good.

I'm listening to the Audible app and I'm using my AirPods. And if I want to just play and pause,

I can just squeeze on my AirPods. But if I wanted to do something more sophisticated with either,

I didn't do it too much with the audio book, but if I was listening to the music or if I was

listening to a podcast, sometimes I want to jump backwards or forwards. It's nice having the Apple

watch just as sort of the remote, because again, my iPhone was packed away. So that was really nice.

We talked about swimming. We talked about the on water stuff. You know, it was just amazing that

plus with my Apple watch, I was wearing one of my, um, uh, solo loop bands that are sort of that,

that poly master or whatever. So they could totally get wet, dry off instantly. It was great. And you

know, the Apple watch is dust resistant, sand resistant, water resistant. It was just fantastic.

Like if mostly my iPhone was near me, but if it wasn't, if it was far away, because I have the cellular version, I could still get a text message and stuff, which was nice.

Right.

It was just a nice little companion and I loved it so much.

So again, if you already have an Apple Watch, you probably know some of these tips.

But it's just a reminder that the Apple Watch is a great beach or other vacation companion.

I loved it.

A great swimming companion.

And, you know, it's funny you mentioned that I did notice I turned on my water lock proactively.

So I don't know if I had started swimming, if it would come on automatically.

But what I did notice is that when I did go down several feet, you know, one time I was doing a dive, I looked at my Apple watch and it did say, hey, it looks like you're going into a depth.

Like it could automatically detect that I was in a depth of a few feet.

And it said, do you I think it was asking if I wanted to turn on a swimming workout or something along those lines.

And so maybe if I hadn't proactively turned on Waterlock that it would have automatically done that or, you know, suggested to do that.

But I just knew before I jumped in because it was a little chilly on the water.

So it took my time getting in.

But I just made sure that I turned it on proactively.

So anyway, just a good thing on that.

But, man, yeah, that's so great to hear you talk about all the different options because I don't even – I take those for granted now.

I just know that I'm going to always be in touch and have access to text messages, the weather, and everything else.

So that's good.

Good reminders on that.

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Exciting times, Jeff.

Thanks, as always, for being with us, and we'll talk with you next week.

Thanks, Brett.

Bye-bye, everybody.