Welcome to In the News for October the 10th, 2025.

It's like 10-10-20-25.

I am Brett Burney from appsinlaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhoneJD.

I hope that your day has been a 10 so far, Brett, on this 10-10.

It's been a 10 out of 10.

It's been a 10 out of 10, which is good because you started off today with a very important topic, Jeff.

And I'm glad that there is such a thing as a World Mental Health Day.

And October 10th is recognized as the World Mental Health Day.

Not really sure exactly where the origins came from.

I'm just very happy that the World Health Organization recognizes this.

And they're not the only ones.

Apple recognizes this as well.

They are celebrating World Mental Health Day with a limited edition badge.

I always like getting these things.

And this one looks pretty cool.

This is from Tom's Guide, where they're actually showing the badge that you can earn today if you do, what, 10 minutes in one of the mindfulness apps or take 10 minutes to do a meditation or so.

You can describe it better, Jeff.

Yeah, I think you've just said it.

Yeah, I think it's either some sort of a meditation or one of those apps.

And I think what Apple was careful to say is they're not saying that you have to use the Apple meditation app, although you certainly can.

I think what their point is that if you use some third party app that contributes to the Apple health data in a way that is sort of in that, you know, mental health, you know, mindfulness, whatever it is, then you can get the same credit for it.

You know, the sort of two things here that I was thinking about, one of all, first is just the awards.

I mean, you and I have mentioned in the past.

I sort of like the silly little awards that you can get.

I'm looking, I'm scrolling right now through my, let's see, this is in, it's now called the fitness app on my iPhone.

and I can see all of my little rings that I've gotten in my monthly challenges and my limited

edition. It's these limited edition challenges that I think are sort of fun because you never

know. Some of them they do year after year. But I have to admit, this is the first time I

specifically remember a award for World Mental Health Day. But like in my fitness app, it tells

me right there that, you know, if you go in, I haven't done it yet, that as long as you do some

sort of record 10 minutes of mindfulness or meditation with any app. So and I like these

things because they're silly little things and they just sort of remind you, you know, today,

let's try to walk two miles or tomorrow. Let's try to, you know, and they don't come up very often,

but I think they have a good rate of when they come up. So I'm, I'm a big favorite of these

silly little things. And, you know, even though it's just, it's, there's nothing, it's just a

digital award. I mean, no care who cares. And yet sometimes I want it just a little bit of a

endorphin rush of, you know, Hey, I got an award, whatever. Um, I will say on this particular one

on the, the mindfulness and the meditation and those sorts of things, I haven't really

them that much. I mean, I play around with them and, you know, I know that for a while with my

Apple watch, it would, it got in a mood where it was telling me every day, you know, you should,

you should take some breaths, some deep breaths and stuff like that. And I, it was making me

anxious to be told that I had to take all those deep breaths. And so I turned it off. I'm like,

stop telling me this. I'm never, I'm never going to, I'm doing this. So, but I will tell you there

have been, I mean, hopefully I'm a, I feel like I'm a pretty steady person, but every once in a

while something's happened, I'm like, you know what?

I am going to, you know, let's just take a sort of time,

take a moment, take time.

Take a few breaths.

When I do that, I actually do like that.

The Apple watch has a little thing.

You know, the little flower thing goes bigger and smaller.

You take your deep breaths with it.

I don't know.

I guess I'm not into it.

Some people are more into meditation stuff

and perhaps I should do more of it.

So, but having said that, you know,

now that there's an award today

for me to do it for 10 minutes,

I'm going to find some 10 minutes later on tonight.

Give it a try.

See what I think.

Maybe it'll turn me into a big meditation person.

Who knows?

Anything's possible.

No.

So is this one found?

So I'm in the, I've been looking in my, so it's in the fitness app and you have to go.

There's a section called awards in here.

And is this under monthly challenges?

I'm trying to find where this one is located here.

Yeah.

If you tap on the, on the thing next to awards, they have something called limited edition

challenges.

And that's where I can see, for example, that I did the national parks challenge, you know,

that one was last month.

So I think that that's where those are.

It's all these little, you know, different Earth Day Challenge and Veterans Day Challenge.

I've done the Veterans Day Challenge many different times.

And all those sorts of ones.

But in fact, yeah, you're right.

As I'm scrolling through these, I've never seen one before for World Mental Health Day Challenge.

So it's something that they decided to do this year.

So that's where you get the award.

But to actually get it, I mean, if you have an Apple Watch, what I'm going to do later on today is I'm just going to go into the little mindfulness app on my Apple Watch.

And then there's all the little things that you can do, like the breathing exercises and the state of mind, you know, all the different ways to do it.

I suppose if I just do breathing and change it, I think my default here is one minute.

So maybe I'll change it.

Well, I guess that's only five minutes.

So maybe you have to do that twice.

I haven't figured out how to get those 10 minutes yet, but I will figure it out.

Hopefully we'll not.

You'll figure it out today.

By the end of the day.

Exactly.

So, but it's fun.

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And speaking of iPad, this is interesting because I know that the Lit Software apps have worked, used to work, with the slide over component there.

You could add some additional apps and everything.

Well, the slide over, I'm almost getting a little confused as to how this goes because, you know, we had the original aspect of just, you know, the full screen on an iPad.

I'm raising my hand here, it looks like, in Zoom.

But we had the full screen iPad.

Then we had the split screen.

And we also had the slide over.

Then we got rid of that for stage manager.

Then we had full windowing capabilities.

But we could still get back into full screen.

We could still have stage manager, but apparently people were complaining that they took away the slide over component.

And thank goodness, Jason Snell reports on six colors in iPad OS 26.1.

They're going to bring back slide over.

And apparently many people are happy about this.

Yeah.

Apple has done so many different attempts to do multitasking on an iPad the right way over the years.

And some have been more successful than others.

But I think the general consensus of most people, it was certainly my Jeff Richardson consensus, was that they hadn't quite done it.

And so now with iOS 26, where we have a true windowing system like you would get on a computer, it's just so much better.

I love it so much better.

But the one aspect of the old system that I know a lot of people liked was slide over because it was sort of nice that you could just take an app and you could just put it to the right so that you didn't see it.

But if you ever wanted to bring it back in again, you would just slide from the right edge and have it come back in and then go back out.

And the way that it used to be implemented is you could actually stack a number of them on top of each other and sort of scroll through them.

It doesn't look like Apple is going to be doing that.

You know, the perfect, the perfect use I've always thought of slide over was like a passwords app is that if you take the for me, it's one password.

If you put one password out of its way, you're not even thinking about it.

And then when you need to bring it back in, you just slide in and you can use the 1Password app and slide it back out again.

And again, you would hope that 1Password is often integrated into Safari enough that you don't even have to bring up the app.

It's just, you know, part of, you know, Apple's done a pretty good job with your password manager, whether you use Apple passwords or 1Password or one of the others.

But that's an example of one that I would sometimes find myself.

Another one that sometimes people would often use is like a notes app, you know, like put my notes app onto the side and then just bring it back in and bring it off to the side.

And so I think it's when as much as the new system of multitasking has gotten great reviews in iOS 26 or iPad iOS 26, it's the one thing that I think a lot of people missed.

I think a couple of weeks ago, you and I talked about Harry McCracken.

He's been writing about computers for decades, and he really loved that feature, and he thought it was a big loss.

And so what really surprised me is that how quickly, I mean, iOS, iPadOS 26.1, you know, it's in beta now.

I presume it'll be out before the end of this year.

It's great that they are already working on bringing this feature back.

Now, it's a little different because, first of all, like I said, doesn't have the multiple

stacks, the current version of the beta.

It's just one app.

It's your one and only app that you can push off to the side and bring back in again.

That's it.

Right.

Second of all, we've talked in the past about how there's different modes of multitasking

on the iPad.

Nowadays, there's three modes.

One mode is all apps are in full screen mode.

One mode is the stage manager, like you said.

And then the third mode, and this is the one that I love the most, the brand new one, is

the pure Windows, Windows wherever you go.

It sounds like this slide over mode, at least in the current beta, is not going to work

in the mode where you only have one app at a time.

And on the one hand, you say, well, that makes sense.

If you're in one app at a time mode, you only want one app at a time.

You don't want to be sliding things in.

And yet, I actually think that in that mode, it could be useful because that's the mode

where you have a full screen thing,

you know, this is the app I'm working on.

I'm working on a Microsoft Word document

or I'm working in Safari or whatever it is.

Right.

But just for a second,

I need to bring in this other app

and bring it about it again.

I can actually see it being pretty useful in that mode.

And I will tell you the way that I've been using my iPad

ever since we had the operating system come out last month,

I usually live in the one app at a time mode.

Oh, really?

Because I do normally work one app at a time,

but there will be times,

and it happens almost every day,

certainly every week where I'm like, okay, now I actually do want to be working. And then I,

and I discussed in the past how I just go down from my little control center at the top. And I

tap that one button that's got like a rectangle and it's got three different rectangles on it.

I tap that one button and it switches me over to the multi-window mode. And then it can have

chaos of windows everywhere. But then I go back and I find it so simple and easy to switch back

and forth between the modes. I love it. So, you know, for me, we'll see how much I end up using

slide over. But if I do want to use it, I could see it being useful in both of the modes, not just

in one of the modes. But again, I hate to judge this because this is just literally the first

beta that it's appeared in. And I'm surprised it's there at all. So it's great that it's there. This

is the first version. Apple may play with it. They may not even come out with it in iPadOS 26.1.

They may decide that it still needs some more time to bake in the oven. You know, although people

are talking about bringing back slide over, I suspect this is not like bringing back something

before because they have a whole new code system you know although i don't know i'm not a computer

science person but i would imagine that what they've done is they've made something brand new

that looks sort of like what slide over was um but it's not like they just took the old code and

copied and paste and put it in the new operating system so we'll see how it all you know i don't

want to prejudge it too much based upon the early reports but the big thing is that it's there so

that's pretty cool that's it's back like there was obviously enough people complaining about it being

missing that apple was listening and they were bringing it back however they bring it back that

that uh it was that important to them uh which is which is good i'm i'm glad that they're doing and

uh at the bottom here jason talks about uh a couple of other or at least one other improvement

they're making to this this whole idea we haven't talked a whole lot about it here but i know jason's

talked a lot about it because he uses his ipad for recording audio mostly from a podcast and there

26 on this and he talks about that there is going to be a little bit of an update uh on that as well

and then you link to another improvement coming with ipad uh os 26.1 which i think is pretty

exciting here that is this right you could keep your ipad closed like if you have a keyboard but

still it can be connected to an external monitor and show the screen there is that correct yeah yeah

So just to go back to the audio one real quick, I mean, for so many years, people had wanted to have like true professional computer audio stuff on an iPad.

And we just didn't have it.

You could really only use one thing at a time.

And so it was a big deal for a small segment of folks, whether you're a podcaster or you're otherwise involved in audio stuff for your iPad.

Being able to have the flexibility of a sort of a true audio system is a big deal.

And yet the one thing that it lacked is that you had to plug in a microphone that had its own gain on it so that you can control if it's too loud or too soft.

And you can buy those.

They exist.

But if you happen to have one where you could not adjust it on the microphone itself, on a computer, it's not a big deal because every computer system has a way you could adjust it in software.

The iPad just didn't have it.

And so this is another one of those things that I'm impressed that people have – a small part of the population complained about it.

And yet Apple was able to jump on it and say, we're going to fix that in the next update.

So, I mean, even if you don't use this feature, it shows that Apple is paying attention to this stuff.

And why this is important to me, Brett, is you and I have seen this for so many years.

Apple will have a year where they do really great stuff for the iPad and we're all excited.

And then the next year, it's like crickets.

They do nothing more than bring over that.

You know, I feel like it's these, whoa, and then nothing, whoa, and nothing.

So we are at the top of the roller coaster.

You know, all of these new things in iPadOS 26.

I want Apple to say, don't tell your iPad programmers to start working on the next version of the folding iPhone.

You know, keep them here.

Keep them working on the iPad.

Let's do updates.

And so hopefully this means that we'll see, you know, this was in point one.

And point two, we'll see some other good things, point three.

And so this next one here is this was just a developer, Steve Chautensmith, had noticed some things in code.

So this hasn't been announced yet, but it makes him think that we may in the future be able to take an iPad and put it in what's called clamshell mode.

Now, let me just say, I know most people just use an iPad, just the iPad.

That's all you do.

That's right.

It's pretty rare for people to connect.

Well, I'm not even talking about the keyboard.

I'm talking about displays.

It's pretty rare for people to connect their iPad to an external monitor.

I will tell you that when you do it, it's really cool.

I mean, the iPad works really well with an external monitor, but you have to have the iPad working too.

A lot of people for the computer, like me right here, I'm talking to you from my computer

where my PC is, you know, folded.

It's in clamshell mode.

It's folded down completely.

I'm not looking at the screen at all.

I never look at the screen.

It's just hooked up to my external monitor.

The only time I ever look at my computer screen is if I have to pick it up and go mobily somewhere,

but usually at my computer.

So this mode, if it's allowed, would let you do the same thing on the iPad,

that you can take your iPad and you can use your iPad cover to keep it completely closed

and have everything on the external screen, which just makes good sense.

And what I mentioned in my post today is, and this is different, but related feature.

And again, I know that I know a lot of, not a lot of people do this, but the small segment

of the folks like me who do sometimes, I might sometimes go to like a coffee house, something

like that.

And I'm using my vision pro, I'm not connected to a Mac because I don't own a Mac or a MacBook

air or something like that.

My iPad is like my portable computer for the most part.

And so I will have my iPad with me and I want to be looking at my iPad screen on the very,

very big vision pro screen and it totally works. I use a keyboard. I use my trackpad,

all that works fine, but it's a complete mirroring mode. And so everything that I'm seeing in my

virtual environment is also on my iPad screen and I can dim my iPad screen so that it's not very

bright, but you know, you don't want somebody to walk by and see what you're doing. If it's

something more confidential, some usually I'm not doing that in a cafe, but I might be, you know,

you never know if I'm doing work stuff or just looking at the internet. And so my point is just

that these are all esoteric things.

We're talking about audio gain.

We're talking about, you know, even just slide over, you know, only certain power users for

the iPad are doing it, but it's all evidence that Apple has saying, you know, the iPad

has grown up.

We are not going to disable the iPad.

You know, we're going to allow it to do some power features.

And yes, it does it differently than the computer, but it's got its own way that it gets there.

But it gets there.

So it's part of this overall theme that makes me excited about the future of the iPad.

So I think this could be a big deal.

there has been no shortage of reviews of the iphone 17 pro and the iphone air and we've covered a lot

of them but there were two today that i just wanted to highlight that you linked to today just simply

because these are other folks that we respect a whole lot and and they're at it and a lot of times

they don't even start writing until they've been using the products for quite a while this one is

dan morin on the iphone 17 pro aren't you glad you've gone pro i like that this is he uses my

favorite word in here, the usual foo-for-raw around whether the iPhone scratches more easily.

Because, you know, this has come out now over the several days that people have been using the iPhone

and that, you know, there's the scratch gate now, whatever gate we want to start calling it here.

But I thought this was a really nice, concise little review from Dan Moore and pretty insightful too.

Yeah, whenever you have these new Apple products, they go through three stages of reviews.

The first thing is, you know, Apple gives pre-release units to certain members of the press.

You and I have never been a member of those.

And so it means that like a day or two before they go on sale, you can see what somebody at, you know, some publication, the Wall Street Journal or something like that, or one of the tech publications, you know, they've had it, you know, for a week.

Nobody else in the world has had it but them.

They've just been looking at it.

And so those are the initial reviews.

And they're very useful.

I mean, I love those because they come out just as you're making your initial purchase decision if you're trying to buy it in day one.

But they've been working on those reviews in a bubble because they can't really talk to other people because they're under non-disclosure agreements.

And then you have the second wave of reviews, which are the ones that come out like within the first week of people that are excited and get their hands on them.

And I tend to post those.

I got my new iPhone 17 Pro on a Friday and I posted my review on a Monday.

And I went very deep in it.

It was a long review, but it was still based upon just a couple of days.

And so now we have these third waves of people that have had them for a couple of weeks.

they have the benefit of you know taking their time they have the benefit of seeing what other

people are reporting and what they can find exactly and so that's why i've been enjoying looking

through these um if you're still trying to decide if you want to get something you know then and

again most people did not buy them on day one they're thinking about getting you know during

the holidays and stuff these are now like great reviews to read because they're a lot more in

depth and they take their time with them and the one that dan morin wrote was just really well

talking about, you know, the different things, the camera that he did and, and how this, this

vapor system we're talking about, I think just a week ago works really well and really stops it

from overheating. So, so that's why I thought it was a nice, and so of those reviews, this is one

you happen to be showing on your screen right now, for example, the, the, the test, he was using

Geekbench to actually do objective tests of how does the speed change for this one versus the

last one. And again, it's not that you're necessarily going to buy a 17 crow because it's,

you know, 10% faster than the 16 Pro, but it's, it's useful to see some objective data of, you

know, now we've put it through the test. We're seeing how they work out. So anyway, these,

these reviews I think are helpful for that reason and very positive. I guess that that's probably

bearing the lead is that this, the 17 Pro, the reviews have been incredibly positive. People

really are, this is a good year to be getting a pro version of the iPhone. Indeed. Or if that's

not exactly where you want to be, although it could be better. Jason Snell, also with six colors,

goes over the iPhone Air review. And, you know, I was interested more in this because,

as you and I have talked before, Jason Snell very famously always enjoyed the mini version size of

the iPhone, right? And so I knew the Air wasn't necessarily the mini, but I was interested to see

how he looked at it because, you know, he's got a good perspective on that. And I think he ends

this here and like this isn't and you and i've said this this isn't like the entry level iphone

even though the air makes it kind of sound like that it could be you and i have talked about this

um but he his point at the very end his last sentence but the iphone air does feel like the

future like it makes him happy just to pick it up and we've said that too if you go and you pick this

up i mean you've just you've never had this much gleaming technology you know with the iphone's

environment and everything that comes with it in such a small package like this. I mean, it just,

it just, it feel, does feel like the future, but at the same time, it may not be the right phone for

you. Yeah. And you know, he doesn't, you'll notice at the end, he doesn't say, and so therefore you

should get this or for therefore you exactly because, you know, and I, and I think this is

purposeful, you know, he's saying as, as a lot of these smarter reviewers are, is that there are real

advantages to the air because it's so light and, you know, weighs nothing. It's just a delight to

hold. And there are some real compromises to depending upon, you know, do you want to have

that zoom camera? Or I think the battery life has been not not a big problem, but, you know,

it is something that you may have to think about the battery a little bit more with this one than

other ones. And so it's just you need to make those decisions. But like you say, that last sentence,

I mean, that's really the key thing is that this we are going to go more down this road. You know,

we're going to have thinner devices. You know, we talked about how the iPhone air perhaps is the,

you know, the precursor to a folding phone next year. But, you know, this is definitely

starting to feel like we are in, we are getting into the future.

So what I thought was what I always say about my vision with my vision pro, right? I love my vision

correct, but I know it's so expensive, but I love it because I feel like I'm living in the future

and that's fine, but I'm not using my vision pro to like, try to get my work done every day. It's

your iPhone, if you consider yourself a power user, it's what you're using all day long, every day and

stuff like that. You may decide you want that extra battery power. You want those extra cameras. You

want the extra speed and everything else. But if you're a little bit more casual about it, yeah,

this is a good device. Interesting. He said the screen, is this correct? The screen size on the

iPhone Air is larger than all but, oh, all but the iPhone 17 Pro Max. Okay. Because it's larger than

the 17, um, and it's larger than the 17 pro, but it's, so it's not like the air and the

regular iPhone are the same size.

The air is actually a little bit bigger.

Um, it's not quite as big as mine, the pro max, but it is a little bit bigger of a screen.

So if you're looking for something thin, yeah, go for the air.

But if it's not the thing that you're looking for, if you actually want to have a smaller

screen, you actually should go with either the regular pro or the 17, because they're

actually technically smaller than the air.

It's sort of an in-between size.

I like how he says, every time I pick up the iPhone Air, I notice how thin and light it feels.

And after a week's usage, I switched back to the 17 Pro and was struck by how different that that phone felt.

Thick and heavy, like a TV remote control or something.

And then to my surprise, the screen seemed small.

So he went to the 17 Pro.

To your point, the Air has a little bit bigger screen on there.

And I've never really kind of seen anybody yet kind of compare that.

And I thought that that was just really, he goes, I found myself missing the iPhone Air's larger screen when I switched to the 17 Pro.

Interesting.

So if the bigger screen is something you might want, you don't want to go all the way to the max, like you, because that is a little more going to be much more bulkier.

So that could be, you know, because I read this and I found myself, it's like, well, then who does want the Air?

You either want the thinness or what?

I mean, that's, that's really, it's the thinness and maybe a little bit of a bigger screen and, you know, maybe just the pride of having something that's new that not a lot of other people have.

And I think that was sort of Jason's point here a little bit is that I don't know where this really fits in other than it's a very expensive experiment by Apple.

And like, can we do this?

Can we send something out that's, that is this thin and not bendable and, you know, doesn't have to bend.

I mean, all of those kinds of things, right?

Will it fit for something later on down the road in the future?

And I think that's really just the point of all this that we've talked about.

Yeah.

I will tell you, though, just last night I was doing dishes and I was listening to the Connected podcast when one of the co-hosts is Federico Vettici of Max Drays.

And he bought the iPhone Air on day one.

And he was asked, you know, of course, it feels very thin and light when you first start using it.

But then, like, after you sort of get used to it for a couple of weeks, is it like not a big deal anymore?

He's like, oh, no, no.

This is still, it still feels.

Oh, really?

you know, even after almost a month now, he goes, it still feels magical. And like, this is special.

And like, for him, he's like, this is definitely the device for me. So, so I hope that's true.

If you decide to go for an iPhone air, I mean, I would certainly hope that you can appreciate

what makes it special the entire time you have it. And keep appreciating. Exactly. And then you link

to just another one here. This is Stephen Hackett at the 512 pixels. The he, well, he, I guess he

goes over both of them, right? The most pro ever, but he talks a little bit about the iPhone air

here too. Yeah. In fact, a lot about it. He talks about the pro for like two paragraphs and then he

spends the rest of the review talking about the air. Cause he's like, that's the most interesting

one to talk about, you know, the new kid he calls it. That's another good. I'll make sure we have

those, those reviews in the, again, I know we've talked about several of them, but anytime they

come up, I just think it's great to maybe point people because a lot of these things can be

helpful if you're still thinking about it. Where are you at? This is an Apple Watch story, but I

loved it. I want to use the where you, this is where you at segment because what an interesting

story. Apparently this is a scuba diver. It was in India, I believe somewhere in India,

uh, in the Bay of Bengal, new near Puducherry, Puducherry, Puducherry. Uh, anyway, he was down

about 120 feet, it says, and a weight belt that he was wearing came unstuck. And so at that point,

But I mean, I feel like I'm not making fun of this, but I feel like, you know, you're just like shooting up to the very top of the of the water at that point, which is not a healthy thing.

It's dangerous when you're it could be very dangerous.

And so I think in this story, it says the Apple Watch tried to warn him or was warning him on the screen.

Hey, you're going you're you're bobbing up for apples a little too quick.

Like you got to slow down somehow.

Somehow he couldn't even get to it.

so then the siren this he was wearing an apple watch ultra i don't know if it was a two or three

or what if we know that exactly on this but that's important because the apple watch ultra

has a 86 decibel siren alarm on it now i've always thought like you get usually that's the

little button that you can you can tap and hold on the side and after you know if you're stranded in

wilderness or something but no this came on automatically and he had a a diver coach apparently

in the water with him and that coach is what heard the siren go off and was able to go and grab him

before he went all the way up to the top uh of the surface just amazing that that went off

it's i mean i've never even thought about it the context you know we talk about like when you fall

down and your Apple watch senses right and tries to call for help. And that's useful. And even in

the context of the siren, I mean, I've thought about it being like you said, number one, I'm in

the middle of the wilderness and I want somebody to hear me from two mountains away, or maybe I'm in

the urban environment. And like, I feel like my life is in danger. Something's going on and I want

to call for help. And so you, you trigger the siren that way and it's going to get someone's

attention to hopefully come help you out. But it never even occurred to me that you would be,

first of all, instead of falling down, falling up, is that the right thing to say when you're

accelerating in the water. And then second of all, the idea that the siren could be heard through the

water. I mean, I guess you can hear things on the water, obviously. I guess a loud siren like that

was enough to get the attention of the person that was with them. So there's just so many aspects of

this that I would have never thought about it. And it gets back to the Apple Watch in general,

and of course the Ultra specifically with the siren, but any Apple Watch is that nobody plans

to be in a car accident or a fall down or any of these things. You don't plan for these things to

happen. But if they do, gosh, you are so happy that you or your loved one is wearing the Apple

watch to protect you. And this is an example of it. I mean, he, he was obviously, I presume,

taking advantage of maybe some of the scuba features of the ultra that, that is, that are

unique to that device. I would think, but, but you know, how wonderful that it, it, somebody thought

ahead of like, Hey, what if, what if this bizarre situation happens to somebody let's, let's have

some alerts. And then he's saying that the, you know, that the, the guy that helped him says that

this saved your life because if you had continued to go up without, and I don't know, I've never

on scuba diving what is it like your oxygen level you have to get get uh your body acclimated to the

amount of oxygen whatever that is people that are scuba divers are rolling their eyes at me because

they understand this stuff better than i do but um it's dangerous and apparently he's he's saying it

could have killed him who knows but uh so it's it's just another example of the apple watch being your

little buddy looking out for you and if you need some help helping you out not only are we impressed

with this tim cook was also impressed so the diver sent an email to apple thanking them for this

feature and tim cook replied i'm so glad your instructor heard the alarm and you quickly assisted

you thanks so much for sharing your story with us be well so who knows this diver might show up in an

apple commercial at some point and it could be how to how to save his life what an interesting story

on that. I like it. You know, you and I actually share, we've talked about this before when we do

workouts, right? So we can, we can share like even we don't, we haven't gone to the competition

aspect yet, but apparently now we're going to start sharing our scores from sleeping overnight.

Okay. Maybe not, but this is something new. So the watch OS 26 brought in a couple of new features,

not a whole lot was new there. You know, of course it's the liquid glass interface and everything,

but there were two features we've mentioned this at least last week if not two weeks ago

one is the hypertension notifications extremely important thrilled to see that there

and then they also added the sleep score on this so anything we want else we want to say on the

hypertension notifications i mean to me this is just a no-brainer keep it on it's another example

of your watch looking out for you exactly exactly uh but i just think that's great along with like

the atrial fibrillation, you know, anything else going on with that, that it gives you some kind

of alert. And I am positive we will hear where you at segments later about some of that. But the

sleep score is a little bit interesting on this, Jeff. I've always enjoyed now, because we talked

about this, if you wear your watch overnight, which I have been even with my ultra one,

I wear it overnight.

Well, in the morning, you will get this little report of your sleep.

And it typically shows you how long overnight you spent in deep sleep, how long in core sleep, how long in REM sleep, and then if you woke up during the night.

So every morning, my wife and I should compare these.

And we say, oh, I got 30 minutes of deep sleep.

I got an hour and a half of deep sleep, you know, because that's some of the most important that you should have.

Well, now they sort of aggregated not just that, but some other components every morning into this sleep score.

And Jeff, I got to tell you, this almost makes me more anxious because I have to like, it's like, oh my goodness, I scored a 68.

It's like, and I just have nightmares of grade school.

It's like, oh, well, that's not, I can't be good enough.

I was like, I got to get this up more.

And it's causing more anxious, not, you know, sleepless nights for me with the sleep score in there.

Maybe that's just me. I get that all the time. But I am glad that there's more information. But it's like there's a little bit more here than where there was before.

Yeah. And I mean, it's I like what Apple is trying to do. They're trying to make it simple and understandable just to get it down to a simple number.

Sure. Sure. Just look at that number. And one thing that's neat, you and I were talking about this before we started to record.

So like if I'm in my health app and I go I tap on sleep score, which I happen to have listed in the summary.

So it's one of those 10 things there.

And so I'm seeing my sleep score.

It's telling me that last night I got a 78, which it says was high.

I guess that's pretty good.

But what I see is if I tap.

I got an 89.

I'm just going to point out.

So I'd be, see, that's what I'm saying.

Like, I don't need, I don't need this pressure to compare.

Go ahead, please.

But what's interesting is if you tap over there, you tap like the arrow.

So like, I can see all the details of my sleep score, like how much hours of sleep I got,

what time went to bedtime.

But there's this little thing called show in charts.

And if you tap on show and charts, and of course, this is what the health app shows us for all sorts of data that it looks at.

You can look at it, you know, from a week to week basis, a month to month basis, a six month basis.

And you can sort of see over time, even though sleep score just came out a few weeks ago with the new operating systems, I can actually see my sleep scores going back a very long time.

I can see, for example, that like usually I'm high to excellent.

I mean, good, good for me.

But if I go back over time, I see that May 6, 2025, I got a, like, I don't know what

the number was.

It was, it was between low and very low.

So I don't know what I was doing back on May 6.

Now, May 5, that's Cinco de Mayo.

I don't remember like doing too much partying this year, but like, maybe I had too many

margaritas.

I have no idea.

I don't know.

One too many margaritas had a bad night of sleep.

Who knows?

But, and of course, that's the whole point of this is that you can look at your, you

Now, Apple's not going to tell you what it means.

You need to look at the number and say,

huh, this is lower than normal.

What did I do that might've affected that?

Or this is better than normal.

What did I do?

And you can decide if you want to change yourself accordingly.

But I just thought it was interesting

that sleep scores can go all the way back.

I mean, who knows?

Maybe it goes back years.

I have no idea.

Yeah, here's another one.

I see December 1st of 2024, I was a little bit lower.

So who knows what I was doing.

Wow, you really went back.

So anyway, so it's just an interesting,

but I like the idea of just having a simple number

And it's like, oh, you can just get an overall sense of things.

Yeah, I see.

I see the point.

It's just I got to get over my grade school deficiencies.

It says sleep score measures three key metrics, the duration.

I'm assuming duration of your sleep, your bedtime, like when you went to bed.

See, again, I'm just like hearing my mom yell at me if I got to get to bed in time and then

interruptions.

And I assume that that means interruptions overnight.

If you woke up, you know, if you're up.

So, yeah.

And it gives you that score.

Yeah, I mean, again, I do appreciate it from the overall standpoint of just focusing on this.

It's something important.

You know, sleep is always important.

And if it gives other folks, including myself, the ability to sort of measure something and sort of track that and just be aware of that, I think that's always helpful.

I mean, just that alone has been helpful.

I used to never care or know about how much REM sleep versus deep sleep that I got.

And now I do. And it's like I can see if I don't go to bed at a certain time or if I have some too much alcohol one day or something else, something happens or too much caffeine before bed, that kind of a thing.

I see the differences. And that's just good from an educational standpoint, if nothing else.

Let's talk about some batteries. Batteries get a little bit of a bad rap sometimes, especially when we're talking about battery packs in luggage in airplanes.

That's what a lot of people think of.

It doesn't happen all that much.

It's not as much as what the journalists would like to think because, you know, hey, it's a screaming headline there that happens.

But this is a great point.

I'm thrilled that you put this in from John Gruber at Darien Fireball.

Because if you are planning to take some battery packs anywhere, really, but again, if you're going to fly with them,

just because some airlines now do prohibit that or they require you to put it into either check luggage or not check luggage or something.

I mean, there are some regulations now or rules that some are putting out.

If you are going to have a battery pack, I would just make sure that it's a trusted version of it, right?

You and I have talked a lot of times about Belkin, Anchor, some of the brand names that we know and trust.

And, you know, we're not a sponsor, but it's just like anything else.

You're going to get what you pay for.

There's reasons why people don't normally get those if they go to some, quote, knockoffs or a lot less expensive versions, and you might be getting what you pay for.

And John Gruber goes into this study here, links to a story in The Verge about his gut feeling has long been that cheap battery packs and cheap products with integrated batteries are dangerous.

Yeah.

You know, if it seems like too much of a good thing, it probably is.

Probably is.

This is talking about batteries.

I've had the same experience in the past with like some iPhone USB cords and stuff like that.

We're a little bit cheaper and no name.

Like you feel like you're saving yourselves five or 10 bucks or sometimes even more.

But, you know, it's probably not worth trying to, you know, pinch pennies too much on that because you want to get something that's a better quality that's going to work better.

And this is perhaps more of an issue.

You know, way back in the day, you know, Apple was more protective.

Like it was all the lightning connector.

It was all the made for iPhone program and stuff like that.

which made things, you know, there were fewer accessory options,

but the hope was that they were a little bit better

and at least checked, you know, directly or indirectly by Apple.

Nowadays, you know, we have USB-C.

You can plug whatever you want into your iPhone or iPad.

Even the MagSafe stuff, because it's based on the Qi standard,

you can buy something that's branded as MagSafe,

which is going to be a little bit better,

but you can also just buy something that's the Qi standard

and anyone and their brother can make something that's compatible to the Qi standard.

And then, of course, with external batteries to any cord.

So, you know, it's nice that there's all this stuff on Amazon that you can get some deals on.

But I, you know, again, so maybe there's nothing that we all didn't know.

And our heart was true from this article.

But it's nice to see that there's sort of it's informative to see some objective studies saying, you know what, you're actually it's a little dangerous to go for some of these products, especially when it comes to like a lithium ion battery, which can theoretically, you know, blow up or something like that.

or have issues happen to it.

So use something that's been reviewed,

use some name brand stuff.

That's just the good advice.

I like the story that John linked to here.

Now, this was a report from LumaField,

but he links to a story in The Verge

because you can read a little bit more about it.

But the first picture here is like the X-ray picture

of a battery pack.

And this reminds me to your point, Jeff,

about getting the right cables

because it wasn't FireWire cables.

I think it was USB-C cables.

It was something that there was a story that you and I talked about a few weeks ago where they were showing the reason why it was important because there was so much more.

Like you could see that it was just much better quality on the guts of these devices.

And it was just worth paying a little bit extra more for that.

And I feel like that this is sort of the same thing here, too.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

Good stuff.

Good advice.

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Let's go quickly to an in the vision segment

because I think you've actually run the lit software apps on your vision pro.

I know that they run because we've talked with Ian before on there.

I don't know if that's a good way to do it.

But anyway, in the vision, they now we've talked about all of the immersive content.

And I just love how you report this.

You keep your great site of all the resources and the immersive content, Jeff.

But now live NBA games.

Is that is that right?

Like you can sit courtside and they'll do a live game.

That's pretty amazing now.

This is pretty cool.

I've seen Apple's done some things where you can see some sports, but they're recorded.

And, you know, I've seen, you know, the NBA All-Stars, you know, these things like that.

And it's just so impressive when you're right there next to the football field or right there next to the basketball court and you see this stuff happen.

It's like you have these in ridiculously, you know, you could never afford to get a courtside seat for a Lakers game unless you happen to be like, I don't know, Ben Stiller or somebody like that.

But Kanye West or something.

Exactly.

But the idea is now why not just put, you know, a camera in a couple of those different locations

and then everybody, like the masses, I say the masses, the masses that have a Vision Pro,

but, you know, the public in general could get access to that incredible thing that where

you could look around and you could see what's going on and you just feel immersive and stuff.

And so I love that they are starting to do this.

I just love that it's even technically possible to do because the bandwidth that's required

to send immersive video.

I mean, this is like far, far more bandwidth

than you need for like, you know,

1080p or 4K or stuff like that.

And yet, I guess they figured people

have enough bandwidth nowadays

that this is going to work.

And so it's just a couple of games

that are going to be in 2026.

Apple is working with, I guess,

Charter Communications,

who must have the contract

to do the NBA games for the Lakers.

But so they're going to have this

and it's going to be fun

to see how it all works out.

I mean, I'm not,

I don't watch a lot of

professional basketball games,

but I'm going to be tempted

to sign up, I'm sure there'll be a charge associated.

Oh, you'll have to watch this.

But, you know, you just have to see what it will be like to actually be there.

And, you know, and it's interesting because when it comes to the Vision Pro stuff, you

know, we were just talking, I think maybe last week that one of the new Vision Pro immersive

videos that came out was that elevated series where I think it was Tim Robbins narrating

it, where you're sort of like up like as if you're in a hot air balloon looking over a

scene.

And those are cool because it fills your entire field of view.

But to actually the really the whiz bang feature of the Vision Pro is when it truly feels 3D.

And so you want to be close to things so that that 3D effect really comes through.

If you're too far away, you don't appreciate the 3D effect.

But like something like on a basketball court, I mean, in one of the little videos that Apple

had with the basketball game that I saw last year, like there's a point where somebody,

you know, they throw the basketball and somebody misses the ball and it actually happens to

come directly towards the camera, which on the one hand, that was an expensive camera

to almost hit.

On the other hand, Apple must have been so thrilled that that accidentally happened in the All-Star Game because like the 3D effect of this basketball coming at you was like, whoa, it was very exciting.

And so, you know, with those sorts of things where you're closer to the action, that's where it's going to make a big deal.

So of all the sports you can have, I mean, football could be interesting.

Soccer could be interesting.

But something that's a little bit more intimate, like basketball, which is just a little bit

smaller court and you're closer to the action, that's going to be some of the best stuff for

immersive.

So I'll be very curious to see this.

And of course, I'd love to get into a situation in the future where whether you want to get

that amazing seat for the concert or for the professional game or for whatever else that

you can just sign up and pretend like you're there and put on your vision pro or you know future

version of the apple glasses or whatever it's going to be so it's really cool to see them

pushing the envelope on this stuff and trying new stuff i can't wait and you know and all of this is

possible because it was you know as we talked about in the past it was last spring that uh black

magic first came out with their um their new cameras that are so perfect for recording things

in vision pro because up until then like there were very few cameras in existence that could

even record this stuff. Apple had some in-house, but they were apparently really big. And so to

actually have something that's about the size of a regular professional camera and that people

could actually buy or rent, I just think that the amount of content is going to spiral in the future.

So it's exciting to see this. We have enjoyed in the past following the work-life balance of the

underdogs the what you said you gave the whole history here the underdogs was a video short video

from apple in uh what what was the first one was that 2019 okay 2019 2019 do you remember brett

what product it was that they developed in 2019 in that first video it was a pizza box of some

kind am i right exactly i remember yeah it was it was a pizza box that was a circle instead of a

square and the funny part about that is like on apple's campus if you get a pizza from you know

cafe max which is their cafeteria online you actually know like they have a box now i don't

know what came first i suspect that the the real world pizza box came first but of course you know

does it surprise you that apple has to come up with the best possible pizza box for their campus

of course of course but anyway but that was the premise of the first one in 2019 so anyway go ahead

go ahead okay within they had one sequel or two sequels they had two sequels okay because they

were working from home during the pandemic that was 2022 or you said right and then i do remember

they were like in thailand like they were chasing of some that one of the laptops was stolen and

there was there was a moped involved and they were chasing that down uh and so uh they got it back

they were chasing a uh stolen mac um this is the sixth video wow i didn't know that it was it was

that long but this one might be one of the best it's really funny because i can't believe they

call out as much as they do the blue screen of death i mean i i can't believe it on one hand

and i was trying to think was have there been other apple commercial uh programs where they

have called it i know that they've mentioned it and i remember the i'm a mac i'm a pc videos i i

think they've mentioned that in some of that but man they really just doubled down and this was

based on uh what was the the comp you strike or it was it was one of the failures right that was

obviously made the news a while back when everything went blue screen of death uh but the

max kept working and this video is pretty cute as well they did indeed it's a nice video of all that

done you know of the five before this i actually thought the one in thailand was one of the more

funny ones and yet that's one you may remember it came out last year and it was pulled within a week

or two because I think people thought there were there were some disputes people thought I think it

was like culturally insensitive or I don't know what it was whatever it was that one did not stay

around very long I don't think it's available on YouTube certainly not on the official Apple

channel anymore but having said that these have been funny they're cleverly written they're fun

they're not too serious they're very sort of tongue-in-cheek and stuff like that right when

in in my post today I actually linked to the four people that star in these I saw the reason I linked

to them is because you know whenever apple apple has a lot of clever you know commercials obviously

they're christmas the ones that they come out for the holidays are always very clever and stuff

and you know except for the fact that we know that uh the aid the agency that he uses what is a twa

a t-w-a exactly yeah they have their folks that they use but like they don't give a lot of credit

to these people but um but i linked to the four actors in it because at least one of them i forget

which one of them it was it was it was either uh i think it was maybe mia the the third person

But like she actually mentioned on her LinkedIn profile that she was like a marketing person that actually helped to develop these things.

So I think that at least some of these people are not just the actors.

I think that they actually have been part of coming up with the idea for this.

Oh, my goodness.

And they've been so successful and people have given them such a good reception that they're now on the sixth one in a row.

And they're cute.

And, you know, it's simple stuff.

You know, we know that Apple has certain advantages over the non-Apple devices, whether it's Mac versus PC, whether it's Android versus iPhone.

But they do a very tongue-in-cheek and fun way of showing them.

So it's nice to have these.

And we should say at the end, they do and go and help the Windows people.

So you watch it all the way to the end.

I'm not going to, you know, but it's like, it's nice that it's like, hey, we're poking fun at you, but we're also going to help you in the end as well.

So thank you very much.

I hope that Apple continues to do these.

I look forward to seeing number seven in the series in 2026.

Hopefully we shall see.

That's awesome.

in the know in the know i thought since we were talking about the apple watch i really truly have

been enjoying uh watch os 26 along with my new ultra 3 um not to the point where it's like

everything is is completely amazing and revolutionary i just improve i just appreciate

the small improvements and one of them i did not know about but we have talked about the control

center in the Apple Watch. I mean, I knew about the control center. This is when you tap the bottom

button, not the digital crown button, but the button beneath that, and you go into the control

center, the same one that you can get by swiping down in the upper right corner of your phone

or an iPad. And this is where you have things like you can turn on and off your wireless if you want

to. You have the flashlight in there. You can go into Do Not Disturb. You can put a lot of buttons

And if you go all the way down to the very bottom, you can tap edit.

And then that will show you what else that you can add into or take away from that control center.

But if you get to the point where you're messing around and you're a little confused, you can actually reset the control center.

So that alone is great that you can rearrange the control center the way that you want it.

But you can revert it back to the original layout with the default controls.

You have to go into the settings app on your Apple Watch.

You tap Control Center, and then there is a Reset Control Center layout.

So I just wanted to throw that out there.

You can also do this on your phone, on the Apple Watch app on your phone as well.

But most of the time, I think people are thinking about it on the Control Center.

I usually go to the Control Center several times during the day.

I just like that I have access to some of these buttons on there.

We've talked even about the double down on one of your tips.

If you go to the Control Center, and you can tap on the buttons,

but you can also tap and hold on some of those buttons,

and it gives you some additional options on there as well.

But if you just wanted to get back to the original layout,

you can go in and reset the control center layout

on your Apple Watch,

and then you can kind of reset it

and kind of rearrange or re-add some of the buttons

that you want to put in there.

So that's my tip today, my Apple Watch.

I like a good tip.

My tip has to do with the iPad.

I guess you could use it with other things too,

but I think of it from myself as the iPad

and universal control.

So I love universal control

because if I'm working at home on my iMac,

I can have my iPad sitting right next to me and just using the keyboard and the mouse or trackpad or whatever you have.

I actually use a trackball myself.

But using the trackball and my keyboard that are attached to my Mac, if I just move the cursor over from my computer onto the iPad screen, it just goes over there.

And then suddenly that same keyboard, I can use to type on the iPad.

And that same cursor, which is especially useful nowadays, where we have like a new cursor system of the iPad OS 26, stuff like that.

So it's really nice.

And I love being able to go back and forth and back and forth.

Having said that, the only bad part is that sometimes you might sort of lose your cursor, like you're trying to go from one to the other.

And where is it?

That can be a little.

So the other day I was doing it and I was using my Mac and using my iPad and going back and forth.

And then I'm on my iPad and my cursor is over there.

And then I go to move my cursor back to the Mac screen and it doesn't go back.

I'm like, well, that's weird.

Like I went all the way to the edge.

I'm like, okay, well, sometimes my iPad gets confused.

And instead of being over here, it thinks it's on this side of the computer.

So maybe I'll go to the edge of the other side and get over from there.

Nope.

No, but my cursor was stuck in jail on my iPad screen and it would not get out.

I'm like, what is this?

What is this?

So I did some sleuthing afterwards and I found this page on the website, on the Apple support

website that says that two specific things, you know, you should not have to do this.

Your cursor should just seamlessly go back and forth.

Of course.

But if for some reason,

things don't work the way that they're supposed to,

they have two tips.

One of their tips was to put the iPad to sleep,

which makes sense.

I mean, if you just press that button

to make the iPad go to sleep,

well, then it's no longer on the iPad.

So then that should be fine.

It should go back to the computer.

And that's one way it works.

But another thing,

and I didn't even know that this existed,

is that I feel like I'm using a PC here.

Control, option, delete.

Control, option, command, delete.

Command.

Which is another way of saying, basically, just hit all the buttons.

Just hit them all.

You know, all the modifier keys.

Control, option, and command, and delete.

And if you do that, it basically turns off universal control immediately.

And as soon as you do it, your cursor just jumps right back to your Mac.

And it's right where it's supposed to be.

And then you can start up again and you can go back over there again.

But I would tell you, I mean, now that I've said it, it's like, oh, well, of course, you just put it to sleep or you just press these keys.

But when it was happening to me, I'm like, what's going on?

I can't get my cursor back.

Can I never use my Mac again?

What's going on here?

And so it was nice to see that Apple already does

have a support page that told me what to do.

And hopefully, I guarantee you

that I'm not going to remember

control, option, command, delete.

I'm going to forget what that specific key combination is.

But what I will know in the back of my head

is that there is a key combination.

And I suspect I'll just keep hitting things

until I finally get the one that works.

So it's nice to know that if your cursor

gets stuck in your iPad,

There's a way to get it back out and put it back on your Mac where it belongs.

So I don't use this mode as much, or maybe I do.

So there is a way, like I know what you're saying, like I have my laptop and then I have the iPad.

And so they're running an iPad mode in Mac mode, right?

And then I can go my cursor and move that back.

But what I typically do a lot and doing it right now, in fact, is I use my iPad as a second monitor.

So I'm basically extending my Mac.

Yeah, that's a completely different mode.

Also useful.

Okay, so different mode.

Also useful, yeah.

Yeah.

But but I love that.

So I just like the fact that I have these options and they do all work.

Like so even if I have my iPad just sitting there, even if it's not an extended display, but I can use that cursor.

And I just I like that little here.

They have a little picture of it here.

It's it's almost it's like a little springy board.

Like when you're coming in and kind of like a rubber band, it kind of grabs the mouse.

It's not that bad, you know, like you can get out of it.

But I can just see sometimes when that wouldn't work.

this is when you need this little, uh, this little tip here of control,

control option to command. Okay. There's four buttons. You got to match on that.

That's a lot. The mode that you described, I've seen you use it. I know that whenever you do

podcasts, you basically are using your iPad as a second monitor for your laptop. And it's very

impressive. Um, and you know, the reason I normally, when I use Mac at home, because I have an iMac

with a huge 27 inch screen, I don't really need the additional screen real estate. But if you have

a laptop. This is my laptop. Yeah. Well then yeah you're you don't have the biggest screen real

estate and so you really do want to extend the screen. Every once in a while I actually do extend

the screen even on my iMac at home. Like for example I might like be watching a video or

of some sort. Maybe I just have like the Saints game on or something like that and a little video

because I have a I have a TV card on my computer that I can watch the the TV signal. But like I

don't want to take it up my screen and so what I'll do is I'll extend my iPad my iMac over to the

iPad. And I keep saying iMac. I actually don't use an iMac in a year. I use a Mac mini, but whatever.

I still think of it as being an iMac, but I take my Mac with the big 27 inch screen studio display

and I extend it over to my iPad so that it's just as if it's part of my regular Mac's displays.

And then I can put whatever window I want over there. I can put a little YouTube video there

and it can play video or I can put like some little program I'm using off to the side. And so

it's like a, it's like a, it really is a second monitor and it works really well. So that is nice

too. But for me personally, I don't use that nearly as much as I use universal control,

but it's wonderful to have all these options. I love it.

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Thanks, Brett. Bye-bye, everybody.