Welcome to In the News for January 30th, 2026. I am Brett Burney from appsinlaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhone JD. Hey, Brett.

Hi, Jeff. I'm still a little cold here up in here in Ohio. I don't think you had any snow down there

in New Orleans, but it's I think it's let me see right now. Oh, it's four. It's four degrees outside.

We're still a little cold. Even the dog doesn't even want to go outside now, which is crazy.

So I'm thrilled to know that there's plenty of news that was happening this past week to keep me warm and inside.

First off, Apple released a brand new product.

Well, I guess, OK, maybe maybe an updated version of the product.

We're talking about AirTags.

You know, we've been talking about this, I feel like, for two or three months, like we suspected.

In fact, I think it was even last fall.

We suspected maybe Apple would come out with something and they didn't.

And we're like, OK, well, maybe they're still working on it.

And apparently they were.

The original AirTag, you said, was released almost five years ago.

Here is your review from May 4th, 2021.

We love AirTags.

And now I think I'm going to love them even more.

Some really good updates here.

Indeed.

So here they are.

They're in my hand right now.

Oh, you got them.

You got some.

I got them.

And I will tell you, you know, on the one hand, it's a minor update.

Apple doesn't have a new number.

You know, the old ones are called an AirTag.

The new one's just called an AirTag.

And in fact, if you look at this package, what I'm holding in my hand is a package of like four.

There's nothing on the front of the package that tells you that this is the second generation AirTag.

And if you look at the back of the package, you need to zoom all the way in to this tiny little print that's so tiny you need like a magnifying glass to read it.

And it does say, if I could look very closely, second generation.

You're magnifying glass.

So that's it.

So like I need to look super, super close to double check that it's the AirTag second generation.

But this is actually a good thing.

I like the fact that the new version is exactly the same size for all intents and purposes, the same weight.

I mean, I guess technically it's a tiny bit of weight, but you have to put it on a scale to measure it.

But everything's the size, which is good because it means that for five years now, we have all of these cases and holding things and everything else.

For example, for my luggage, I have this cheap little thing that Belkin makes that cost a few bucks.

It's plastic.

It just puts it on there.

Or for my keys too, where my keys are behind me right now.

but I've got just a, in fact, you have a picture of it right there from five years ago.

Yeah, there it is.

Yeah.

Well, that's actually that one.

But if you scroll down a little bit more for my keys there, you see that tiny little thing

right there?

Oh yeah.

That it's, it's just the tiniest little thing that lets me put my AirTag on my key chain.

And I've been using that for five years.

And all I did was I opened it up.

I took out the old AirTag.

I put in a new AirTag and now I've got the new one in there.

So anyway, so that's, I like the fact that it's backwards compatible.

So why would you care about this?

The reason that you would care about it is because it's everything that you like about

an AirTag is better.

I mean, you already like the fact that it's so small and everything else.

But, you know, the key is when you misplace something because you can't find it, you misplace

it, or it's been stolen, you know, God forbid.

And with the AirTag, you can find it.

And so it uses an updated version of Bluetooth.

And remember, the way that AirTags work is if somebody else has their iPhone in the vicinity

of your AirTag, it picks up the location.

And so many people have iPhones in the world

that at an airport,

if your baggage is at the wrong claim

or something like that,

someone's going to have an iPhone around there.

But because this new AirTag

has just a little bit better Bluetooth,

it's going to be a little bit easier

for someone else's iPhone or other Apple device

to sense where it is and report back to Apple.

You know, unit number one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

is right over here in the left part of this room.

And then second of all,

When you actually go to find your AirTag, you go to the Find My app and it will show you where it is.

But one of the really cool things about Find My is when you get into that mode where it has like an arrow and it actually says not just, you know, you're getting warmer, you're getting colder.

But it has this arrow that says it is right that direction.

And it is, you know, 16 feet from where you are now.

And you can get closer and closer.

That is what makes it truly, truly useful.

And that's pretty impressive.

That's Apple's ultra wideband technology.

It's actually 3D.

So it knows where you are, not just if it's left, but up, down.

And so the few times, fortunately, I don't lose things that often.

But when I do, where in the world are my keys?

It totally works.

And so the new version, and again, I will say I just got these at the end of the day yesterday.

I haven't tested them yet, which is why I haven't written a review yet, of course.

I, the, the, the selling point is that it's going to be more precise.

So like I, I saw one review say like I had two of them next to each other and I'm across

my house and the old one, my phone was just very vague.

Like it's over there, but the new one was much more precise of it's that direction.

It's that far away.

So, you know, it's going to make it a little bit more convenient.

Plus another thing about air tags is if you can't find one, you can make them beep and

you can just use your ears to listen.

Like, where are they?

And so the newer speaker is 50% louder.

So again, you might not, and I've had this happen before.

Like if something falls between your couch cushions, it might muffle the sound.

And so you might not hear it from a couple of rooms away, but with the louder speaker,

I guess the idea is it'll be a little bit easier.

We'll have to see.

I haven't tested it in practice.

It's also a slightly different speaker too.

The tone is a little bit higher.

I saw.

I like this was, who was this?

Ben Lovejoy, right?

He put them together.

Apparently the chime was the F note before, but now it's the G note.

And he's got this little video in here to where it does sound different.

And I think he talks about it in here a little bit that theoretically it's a little bit easier to hear from far away or it kind of pierces a little bit more than the other one did.

I'm not really sure, but Ben Lovejoy puts this little video in here to show you the difference.

Yes, you probably will never notice unless you hear the two tones side by side.

If you click on that video, you can hear the two tones, but I guess it's better to hit the, I was going to say hit the G spot.

I don't want to have an NSF ranking here, but let's just say it's a new key.

But again, these are minor changes.

Don't get me wrong.

But at the same time, what are they going to do with an AirTag?

It's not going to do your taxes, right?

There's only so many things that you want an AirTag to do, and everything that you want it to do, this is going to be a little bit better.

So it's been five years.

Of course, the technology is different.

You would expect Apple to do something different.

And, you know, one actually another change that Apple is not advertising, but that some folks have figured out is Apple wants you to use an AirTag for good, but they don't want you to use it for evil.

Like, for example, trying to stalk an ex-wife or something or a former spouse.

And so, as you probably know, if someone else's AirTag is with you and is following you around, your iPhone will give you an alert of, hey, somebody else's AirTag has been really close to you for the last 12 hours.

Just so that you can know about it.

And this has happened before when my wife took my luggage that had my AirTag on it.

And she's like, OK, I understand that I have my husband's luggage with his AirTag.

So that's wise with me.

But in case it was something nefarious, you would want to know about it.

And one thing that bad guys would try to do with the old AirTags is they would open them up and remove that speaker so that it doesn't beep to alert you that it's near you.

And according to the reviews that I've read, Apple has done something to make it even harder to remove that speaker.

So, you know, whatever, this is not something I'll be able to test, but I presume that Apple

did that.

Maybe there are many reasons they did it.

I don't know if this was the intention or a side effect, but it would be a little bit

harder for bad guys.

Now, again, if you're truly a bad guy, you're just not going to buy an AirTag.

You'll go to Amazon and find some no-name tracking device that doesn't have a speaker.

But, you know, but at least Apple's devices will not be used for bad quite as much.

So anyway, I think it's an overall, it's a nice upgrade.

I don't know that you need to replace one that you already have.

If it works fine. Although since I did buy some new ones, I decided that like for my keys, which is one of my most important ones, I might as well put the new one in there.

And the one that was in my keys, I'm just going to use that in something else because I was thinking of getting some new AirTags anyway for a couple of things that I have.

So but it's nice that like, you know, they're better. So I think this is a nice improvement.

And again, big picture, it's our first new Apple product of the year, you know, so now we can get ready for more of them.

The only change I think I would have liked to have seen would just to be thinner or like, you know, because it sort of has a little bit of a bulbous thing, right?

When these first came out five years ago, people were complaining because you couldn't easily slip it into a wallet, for example, right?

So it was a little bulbous.

And I just I guess I would have liked it if it could have been maybe a little thinner.

But I think the issue there is that it's the battery, right?

It still uses.

In fact, I've got some, this is my package of the CR2032 battery, right?

I get several of these packages so that I have some on hand because it uses the same battery.

Now that's great.

I think that that's fantastic because it's not like we had to go out and get something,

you know, different or special.

And maybe some people would have said it should be rechargeable instead.

I'm okay with the 2032 batteries.

I think that's all right.

Anyway, that would just be the only thing that I would have wanted.

You linked to a story from Hartley Charlton and Mac Rumors, I think does a great job with this table here of showing you the differences of pretty much everything you were just saying.

Up to 50% farther precision finding range.

And that's what you were talking about when it gets into that arrow.

I think Apple calls that precision finding as opposed to just sort of the general find my on that.

And that's available if you have an Apple Watch even series nine or later, which I think is pretty cool.

50% louder speaker.

And by the way, if you hadn't noticed this past week,

there was a slight update to iOS 26.2.1, right?

And I think that they updated that

mainly for some of these AirTags.

I think also because we'll get to talk

about the Creator Studio here

in just a little bit different.

The one last thing that I thought was interesting here,

Jeff, is it's just a little tiny bit heavier

with the apple air tattoo is 11 grams before now it's 11.8 grams so be careful there you know don't

hurt yourself picking that up exactly i can't feel it i saw that number two i mean i've got

one in each hand there's no way that my senses can percept can perceive that difference um i will

tell you also if i if i may respectfully disagree with the gentleman from ohio because i um i don't

want them to be thinner. And I say that because I want to have backward compatibility. I agree with

you that it's nice to have something super thin for your wallet, but you know what? Apple's FindMy

technology is opened up to third-party developers. I already have something that's very thin on my

wallet made by Eufy, which works with FindMy. I remember we've talked about that. My preference

would be rather than make it just a little bit more svelte. I mean, sure. If Apple was developing

the AirTag for the first time ever today, with today's technology, you know, it could be even

thinner and that would be nicer to be more like a wafer. But considering that we already have five

years of an AirTag ecosystem, which is a funny thing to say, but it's true. I mean, there are,

you go to Amazon, there are countless, countless devices that you can buy that will hold an AirTag

in any way, shape or form. And I think it is far more valuable to have the new one, the exact same

size as before so that you can just use all those things and purchase them. So I hear what you're

saying, but that's, I think Apple made the right choice. The other thing just quickly that somebody

had said, I can't really see it in here that how many airlines that now air tag is compatible. I

say compatible with, it's just the idea that you can share that. I mean, I remember we talked about

this maybe a year ago, year and a half ago when it was just like, I think it was maybe Southwest

and United or something like that. And now it's almost universal. I think almost every airline.

Now you can share your location with, because a lot of times, obviously air tags are put into

luggage as you were talking about earlier that's what i use them for although now i've greatly

expanded it to your point too not only just the keys but i my all of my um the ladies in my life

my wife and my daughter have air tags in their purse i mean we have it in the car like i've just

in fact i think i've got two more extra because i kept buying them when they went on sale that's one

of the other things that we talked about last fall that they were going down in price you can get

four of them for 69 or so and we thought okay well that's a sign they're getting rid of some

inventory and maybe they're going to release something new, but it just took them a little

bit longer. Anyway, that's pretty fun. I think I'm going to get those because you link to,

you can get, I think a five of them for the price of four from Costco. At least that was one of the

links right now, but the price for four of them is $99 right now. Yeah. One quick thing on the

airline thing, Apple in their press release, and I mentioned this in my post today, they have a

statement. I don't know what data they use to prove this, but they say that AirTags over the last five

years have reduced baggage delays by 26%. Oh, wow. Reduced the incidences of truly lost luggage by 90%,

which, you know, I don't know how to come up with those numbers, but I will tell you when you, I mean,

most of us that have been in my travel over our lives have had a situation. I try to avoid checking

my bag as much as possible, but sometimes you have to. And we've all been in that situation where

you're waiting at the conveyor belt and your bag is not there. And you're like, oh, and it's so

frustrating in the old days to have to go and go to the counter. And am I going to ever see my bag

again? It really is. And nowadays I have, I had that happen to me in the old days once or twice

since my air tag, it hasn't happened, but I know if it does, because of the stories I read from

others, I want to know exactly where it is. And so if it's in, if, if I have landed in a city and I

know that my air tag is in that airport, I want to know that on the other hand, if my, if my bat,

if my luggage never even made the plane in the first place and it's still back in new Orleans,

Well, then that's a whole different story. And now I need to know I need to go buy some new clothes or whatever it is. And so that is information that in the old days you would not have had. And so, you know, again, 90%, I don't know where they got that number from. But, you know, in terms of, you know, peace of mind and knowledge, it's a huge difference, I have no doubt.

Apple releases a new product and then they acquire a new company.

Well, I mean, wow.

I did not see this coming.

I'm not so surprised except for the fact that I didn't even know about this company.

But apparently it's pretty big and pretty well known.

There's just so many numerous AI companies today.

But Apple acquires Israeli audio AI startup Q.AI.

And I saw many people reporting on this this past week.

My goodness.

I mean, we almost buried the lead here.

I mean, it's fun to have a new product in our hand.

And this is just theoretical for the future.

But you say people knew about it.

I feel like I know something about the state of AI.

I keep up with this.

And this company was not on my radar screen at all.

And it should have been because the company was founded by, what is the person?

Maisel, I forget his first name.

But it's the same person that previously came up.

He came up with a company called PrimeSense, which Apple purchased years ago, and they used that to come out with, you know, we know that nowadays your iPhone will use the sensor to look at you and stuff as opposed to the old Touch ID.

And they use technology from his former company to replace the fingerprint sensor with the Face ID.

And so this guy knows what he's doing.

And his new company here that I had never heard of before, Q.AI, what they're doing is fascinating.

In fact, Brett, I know you have things loaded up, but for you showing on your screen, can you just go to the website, just type Q.AI in your browser and hit return?

Q.AI.

Q.AI.

The website was still working last week.

Okay, it's still there.

So even though Apple's purchased it, the website tells you almost nothing.

I was going to say very minimal here.

Very, very minimal.

But they have this logo, which is showing on your screen right now, and I'll read it because it's a sentence.

in a world full of noise, we craft a new kind of quiet. In a world full of noise,

we craft a new kind of quiet. What does that mean? Well, apparently what it means is,

and they've got patents for this, is they have apparently come up with a way to use AI to

understand what people are saying. This has been around for a while, but to be especially good at

it when you need quiet. So for example, if somebody is just whispering, they can apparently

understand a low whisper, or if you're in, and this is perhaps more realistic, you're in a crowded

environment and you want to pick out that one voice that's talking to you from all of the noise.

Maybe you're in that airport looking for your lost luggage. Their technology is apparently

really good at using AI to figure that out. And we can imagine all sorts of ways that Apple would

want that technology to make Siri better or related to that, so that to the extent that you're using

to interact with an AI to do something else to actually understand your voice in the first place.

And what amazed me is it's not just audio, because that's what I thought it was going to be,

is they're doing a better job of separating the wheat from the chaff using audio technology.

And that makes sense to me. I can understand how you could use AI that way. But it's also

other sensors too, like visual. And they have this patent that was described that can actually,

from your facial expressions and from micro movements of your lips, it could understand

what you're saying without any audio at all, which to me, that's like reading lips.

You know, we've always, I've never seen this in real life, but I always feel like in the

movies, like somebody is deaf, but they can read your lips and understand what you're saying.

And I'm like, oh my goodness, that, that, that's amazing.

Or, or, or even if I think of a 2001, a space odyssey when Hal did that just by reading

lips. So they have technology that allows you to read lips. And you think to yourself, well,

how is that useful? Because when would my iPhone, my camera's not on all the time.

This gets back to me, to something that we talked about last week. Remember last week,

we were talking about the rumor that Apple might be coming up with a little AI pin that would stick

on, you would attach to your shirt and it would have some sort of a camera, not that it's taking

pictures of the world around you, but that it would sense the world around you.

Wouldn't that be interesting if this Q.AI company's technology, Apple used that, and

again, this is probably years away, to sense the world around you and just have a better

understanding of things, not just who is the person, what are they saying?

I can't hear them, but just from their lips moving, I can tell what they're saying.

And their technology also, there's other things it senses too, like, what did it say?

They actually do say emotions.

I don't know what that is, but all sorts of things that they can sense.

A heart rate, respiration.

I mean, my goodness.

Facial skin, micro movements.

Wow.

This is crazy pants.

And who knows?

Maybe they're just in development.

Who knows?

But this is all very futuristic stuff.

And Apple paid big bucks for this company.

Yeah, they did.

$2 billion.

I don't know about you, Brett.

I do not have an extra $2 billion lying around.

Of course, Apple does because they have tons of money.

But this is the biggest Apple acquisition in the history of the company, with the one exception of just over a decade ago when they purchased Beats for $3 billion, which, of course, led to the Apple Music Store, which so many of us use today.

Their competitor is Spotify, not to mention a lot of the Beats technology, the headphones and stuff like that.

That was a big acquisition for Apple, but they had the money.

And in retrospect, I think it made sense.

So this is, I mean, this is the early days.

When Apple bought the guy's prior company, PrimeSense,

it took them like five,

it took them a number of years

from their time they acquired the company

to the time when Face ID came out.

So who knows how long it will be

before they start to implement some of the stuff

that Q.AI was working about.

But this is incredibly, incredibly interesting.

I got to suspect they're going to fast track some of this

because we just talked about a week or two ago,

the agreement that Apple made with Google to utilize Gemini.

Like, you know, did finally somebody light a fire under Apple?

Like, we've got to get going with some of this AI stuff.

You know, we talked about it from two years ago, a year and a half ago,

when they went to WWDC and talking about everything that they were doing

and the plans, and it kind of fell on their face a little bit on this.

Maybe they're switching gears a little bit instead of trying to develop internally.

They're going to like, well, okay, there's some good stuff at Google.

with Gemini there's some great stuff with this QAI why not try to take advantage of that which I

remember a lot of people were being constructively critiquing Apple that they should have maybe done

some of that you know a closer integration with open AI maybe from the very beginning but wow

hearing you talk about this makes me just really really curious and excited to see where it's going

and people are you know I like this article from Ryan Christoffel you know they're talking about

this could maybe finally make Siri what we all want it to be and more from that. It just,

just, just really interesting. So, and it looks like that there, there was a hundred employees

at this Q.ai is what they said, right. And they're all going to now become Apple employees and we'll

see where that goes. Yes, sir. So that was, so this is my next point is we all know, we've talked

about this in the past. Apple tried to develop the core AI technology themselves. They weren't

coming up with something that was as good as the competitors. And they ultimately decided to

collaborate with Google on their Gemini AI. But the real thing for me is, and the future will tell

what the right is, you know, does it matter if you own the underlying AI technology or is what

really matters is what you do with the AI technology. And in fact, I think a link to the

article this week from somebody, maybe it was Jason Snell talking about this, is what Apple has

always been, yeah, here you go. What Apple has always been really good at is taking technology,

which can be confusing, right?

And making it for the rest of us,

you know, it's the computer for the rest of us

was the original logo of what they did in the 1980s

for the original Mac or even the Apple.

This is what, you know, is exciting for me

is I want to take AI and make it practical, make it useful.

I struggle with this, not struggle,

but I think about this all the time in my law practice

because everything, you can't throw a rock

at legal technology nowadays

without hitting something about AI.

everybody's doing AI this, AI that.

And some of it to me is just sort of doing it

so that they can say that they're doing it

and check the box.

But what I really want is useful AI.

I want it in a way that makes my life better,

that makes my law practice better,

that makes me a better attorney,

that makes me a better person.

And Apple historically has been the right company for that.

They're not just going to have a computer like an IBM PC.

They're going to have a computer that is easier to use

because of the GUI interface and everything else

so that you can actually do things with it more easily.

And this is what I want. And wouldn't it be wonderful if Apple can get better at taking the AI promise and turning it into a reality? And so now we get back to the acquisition. You just mentioned that they have, what, 100 employees, you said?

So these are 100 people who are really good at AI, at least one would hope, right?

And if all of these 100 people are now Apple employees and they can put their smart minds, they've been doing some incredible stuff, it sounds like, if they can now be a part of deciding how Apple can take the abilities of AI and do something with it.

Like, for example, taking the abilities that AI have and using it to read people's lips, as we just talked about, or, you know, sense noises in a crowded environment.

This is what I want, because at the end of the day, I don't want AI for the sake of AI on my phone.

What I want is a feature that relies upon AI to do its magic.

Sure.

But I just want a feature that is useful.

I want to say that I never used to be able to do X, but now I can.

And that is something that makes my life better.

So this is what, and I think this is, you know, this gets back to the Beats acquisition.

Apple purchased Beats for a number of reasons.

They wanted to have an Apple Music Store and that allowed them to fast track it.

But there were a lot of people at the company Beats that really knew music, right?

They had the relationships with the industry.

They understood it.

And Apple, you know, people talk about an aqua hire.

You're acquiring a company for who you're hiring.

They got all those great music people inside of Apple.

Some of them were celebrities.

Some of them were not well-known, but they were incredibly smart.

And my hope is that this, and I think this is why you spend $2 billion in a company.

Yes, you're buying their technology.

You're excited to the promise, but you're also getting the people and the things that

those people can develop.

This is the stuff that could take a few years before it comes to fruition, but it is nothing

but potential.

And after the last, what, 18 months, Brett, of us talking about how Apple has been hitting

these speed bumps in AI.

Right.

Or doesn't it seem, I mean, maybe I'm just a wide-eyed optimist, but it seems to me like Apple has got its act together and has the potential for things to be really exciting from an AI standpoint over the next couple of years.

I'm ready for it.

I'm ready for it.

I'm just a little hesitant, a little skeptical right now.

We'll see.

We'll see.

We'll see.

So Apple releases a new product.

They acquire a new company and they launched a new subscription this week, the Apple Creator Studio.

I have to tell you, I upgraded to 26.2.1, I think is the newest version now.

And I opened up my iPad and my iPhone and I didn't have a choice.

I had to upgrade my Keynote app and my Pages app.

It looks like on the Mac, I can still have the old Keynote and the new Keynote.

I had to download the new Keynote on my Mac.

So it looks like I have both of those apps.

I didn't know I was sort of going to be forced into doing this.

It makes sense.

I get it.

But it's like I just wish I would have had a little bit more heads up on it.

Now, that said, I'm pretty excited about this.

In fact, I think even reading your notes today, Jeff,

I think I am going to at least try the Apple Creator Studio.

You said I think we can even get at least one month, maybe three months free depending on your devices and stuff that you have.

But it's like, okay, that's good.

I'm going to try it.

Thanks, Apple.

Thanks for giving me sort of a little trial period there.

But now my new keynote has a bunch of stuff that I didn't really necessarily want in there.

And that frankly doesn't work right now unless I do upgrade or subscribe to Apple Creator Studio.

I just don't, you know, I know we talked about this the last couple of weeks.

This didn't really sit very well with me, but we'll see where it goes.

I'm going to give it a chance, I think, on this.

Yeah, give it a chance.

I mean, I know it may seem invasive.

It's suddenly a new icon and it looks different, but that happens for apps.

I don't like that.

You know, apps update.

And there's always that series of, well, you know, this is not what I did before.

Or, you know, but then you adjust and it's fine.

So, yeah, as you said, there is the new version.

And so if you're using iOS devices like an iPhone or an iPad, you just automatically get the new version.

And then the question is, do you want to use the free version or which you now have?

Or do you want to pay the subscription to get the additional features?

And what I noticed is that when you go to pay and you can either pay a month or you can pay for a year.

But when you go to pay, I say pay in quotes because I'm actually not paying any money,

regardless of which option you choose,

it looks like they give you the first three months for free.

It's set on my screen because you have a new device,

you get three months free, but I don't have a new device.

I'm using an iPad that's many years old.

And so I think just everybody gets that.

So, and you can cancel before that.

So anyone, you might as well sign up for one of them

monthly or yearly, and then just mark your calendar.

And if you decide the extra features don't matter to me,

I'm just going to go ahead and cancel.

But, and we talked last week about what you get,

you know, for Keynote, for example, just to talk about that one, there are some new templates in

there. You know, does that matter for you? Do you want those new templates? You can decide whether

you want them or not. The bigger thing is on the more creative side, you know, you now have,

for example, Pixelmator Pro, which used to only exist on the Mac and now also exists on the iPad.

And I haven't played with it yet, but I will tell you, I decided to go ahead and pay for a one year,

although I guess I'm not really paying it for three months. And I started to look at Pixelmator

Pro. And it was nice because I already know how to use the Photomator app on my iPad. And it's

similar just with more features. It's sort of like, you know, a lot of the, um, the aesthetic

approach of the Photomator app, but it's blend. It's a little more like Photoshop with, you know,

more sophisticated use of, you know, layers and shapes and things that you can do. So, um, anyway,

it looks, I need to explore it, but I'm glad to have this new option. Plus if you use Final Cut Pro

on an iPad, the new version is much better. You now have, you know, background, you know,

saving things and other stuff and lots more compatibility. So everything is better with

these new versions, um, or at least different. I mean, you may think that you like the old icons

better or whatever, maybe you like the new icons. That's a personal thing, but so this, this is the

future. And, um, and so it'll be interesting. And, uh, the real problem I think is, as we said,

for some people, if you don't really want to use video or photo stuff on your iPad or your iPhone,

own, especially your iPad, you may say, I don't really, I don't want to spend this much money

because I'm just going to continue using the stuff that I already use, like pages and Keynote.

And then you're in a quandary because you're like, well, there's these minor new features

that you need to pay a month. Is it worth paying $129 a year just to get those minor improvements?

I mean, you need to decide that if you use Keynote a lot, then I guess it is. If you don't,

then you don't. I mean, you could always just pay $13 for a single month and then cancel at the end

of the month when you don't need it anymore. But that's, that's, but we, we, again, we talked about

that story last week. It's nothing new there. So, but it's now out and it's now available and you

can go ahead and get it. And to be fair, you know, everything in Keynote on my iPad is there that I'm

familiar with. It may just look slightly different. It's just, I've got one, two, three, four,

maybe five new little purple buttons that have not been there before. And if I tap on them,

I don't even know what they do, but if I tap on one, it'll tell me, do you want, you know,

you could use this. It's whatever it is. It's really, you know, a great thing.

I could generate slides. This one, what does this do?

Generate presenter notes, like all of these AI tools.

I just can't use them until I actually have a subscription.

So as I said, I think I'm going to do that at some point.

Soon. I, I, I just haven't done this,

but this review from Jason Snell really good.

I'll make sure that that's in the show notes.

Cause I think he does a great job of just going through all of them.

but he actually talks about this. As you said, you can pay $13 a month,

which I think if you do that per month,

it comes to like $156 a year or something like that. Right. Is that right?

But you can pay one 29 upfront for a whole year.

And this is amazing.

Like Jason even talks about the fact that he is big Photoshop user,

even though he just, he just barely scratches the surface,

but the equivalent, if you paid for all of these apps with like from Adobe,

that you would be close to $839 a year.

which is pretty amazing.

Now, there's all kinds of different subscription levels

and stuff from Adobe that you could do on some of that.

But I thought that was interesting.

Also, if you are a student or a teacher,

it's only $3 a month or $30 a year for these apps,

which is good.

Apple's always fantastic about making sure

that there's educational options there.

Now, the last thing,

I just barely did a quick search for this, Jeff.

And I think you answered this last week as well.

If I have a family subscription or I have, you know, my iCloud account allows my family to share any subscriptions that I have, that they could actually also use these apps.

And so, in effect, I might be paying $129 a year, but that means all four of us in my family could actually use these apps.

Isn't that true?

Which, in my mind, that's an amazing bundle.

That's burying the lead right there.

Are you kidding me?

That's amazing that all of us could have access to it.

I don't have to have individual subscriptions.

Yeah, and that's the difference between the student account.

The educational discount of $30 a year, I think it's just a single license.

Whereas if you pay $129 a year, you get the family license.

And so I agree.

The family, yes, yes.

And that's always been true with the app stores.

If one person in your family buys something, others can use it as well.

That's great.

With some exceptions, it depends upon how the in-app purchases work for different apps.

But typically, it works. Yeah. For Apple apps, like these are all Apple apps, obviously, if we didn't make that clear. And, you know, so in other words, you know, if I get it as I guess I'm the administrator, whatever you call it, the family leader, you know, from my from my iCloud. And so now all of my family members can access the iCloud. And when they get an iCloud, I can share that subscription. I'm just saying $129 for all four of us to be able to I think you can share to up to five people in a family subscription.

That's an amazing deal there that they, because we're all Mac and all Apple and everything.

And the fact that they could get access to that as well is pretty good.

Let's talk about a few more apps here.

A great article you linked to from John Gruber and Daring Fireball.

He's been meaning to talk about this for a while, but Apple had the top iPhone apps in

the US for 2025.

The free ones, the top 20 free iPhone apps.

I thought this was a pretty interesting list.

And of course, John Gruber had some interesting comments to make about it as well.

It is.

Yeah, it's he has both the free and the paid apps here.

But let's just I mean, let's mention because I think it's interesting.

You know, there's so many iPhones in the world.

Right.

And free apps.

Anyone can get free apps.

I think it's really it tells you something about what people are using their phones for to take a look at the list.

And just to go through it quickly, I mean, we know some of these won't say anything about it.

But the number one free app is ChatGPT.

I mean, if you wonder if AI is important, everybody's getting chat GPT.

Boom.

And then you have number two threads, which is social media.

Number three is the Google app.

Number four is TikTok, another social app.

Number five is WhatsApp Messenger.

You know, in the United States, Apple's messages app is pretty popular, but around the world,

WhatsApp is by far the number one messenger plus it's a platform.

So that's very popular.

Number six is Instagram.

You know, again, back to social media.

Number seven is YouTube.

We know what that is.

Number eight is Google Maps.

You know, Apple has a great Maps app,

but a lot of people prefer or want to have them both.

I know that you prefer Google Maps

and I use Google Maps all the time,

even though I prefer Apple Maps.

Number nine is the Gmail app.

So just to pause right there,

I mean, that shows you how important Gmail is

in the world, this Gmail app, that people love it.

Number 10 is Google Gemini, yet another AI app,

but that's in the top 10.

So two of the top 10 are AI apps.

You know, Facebook's number 11.

Number 12 is CapCut,

which is an app that you can use to edit video.

It's sort of like a mini version of Final Cut Pro.

And I know that people love CapCut for things like putting together

like TikTok videos or stuff like that.

Number 13 is Temu, T-E-M-U, which is a Chinese company

that it's sort of like a Chinese version of Amazon.

And it's interesting that this is so popular.

I mean, of course, a huge number of iPhone users are in China.

And so for them, I mean, Temu is everywhere.

But I know that you can even use T-Mobile in the United States too.

So that's interesting.

Number 14 surprised me a little bit.

It's the T-Life app, which is the app that if you're a T-Mobile subscriber that you use to do things with T-Mobile.

Isn't that interesting?

Because I don't think of T-Mobile as being, I mean, it's a big carrier, but not one of the very biggest.

And yet good for them.

Their app is number 14 in the list.

Number 15 is Telegram Messenger.

It's another messenger app, the message app that people use.

Number 16. So this is now we're getting to something I don't know.

Lemon 8, lifestyle community. I actually don't know what Lemon 8 is.

Do you know what that is?

No.

Okay.

No, not at all.

Number 17 is Spotify, which is obviously a big competitor to Apple Music.

18 is Google Chrome.

This is interesting because the Safari browser is so good on mobile, but some people do prefer Chrome.

And again, Chrome is different on the mobile than it is on the computer because it's actually using,

I believe it's using Apple's underlying WebKit technology.

But anyway, it's interesting. Number 19 is Snapchat, another social media app. And number 20 is another one I don't know. It's an app called Red Note. Share, connect, love. It looks like it's a Chinese logo on it. So maybe this is an app.

Yeah, I won't even let me go to that.

I think that's an app popular in the country of China. So it's just, you know, almost all of these are apps that we all know, but it was interesting to see the 20 of them. I want to briefly talk about the paid ones too, but anything that I want to do as quickly.

Well, first of all, what I find interesting, these are, quote, free apps, but I think every single one of these has in-app purchases.

Most of them, maybe not like Google Maps or so, but, you know, if you download ChatGPT, it might be a free app, and a lot of people are probably using it for free, but there's an in-app purchase, right, if you wanted to subscribe to the professional version of that.

The other thing I found interesting, if I'm not mistaken, out of the top 20 here, one, two, three, four, five, six, at least, are Google apps.

Out of the top 20 free apps that are most popular in 2025 all come from Google.

And I might have even missed one.

I mean, that includes YouTube and Google Maps and everything on there as well.

But other than that, yeah, everything with you.

I mean, I'm not surprised at all that most of it is around social media, people just getting into it.

I was a little surprised that ChatGPT was number one on there.

But interesting, yeah, even John Gruber says Google has six apps on the list, including five in the top 10.

And he also goes on to say that even a couple of the Facebook or meta apps, which he says there are certainly no friend of Apple.

They have four apps on the list, including three in the top 10.

So I just thought that was interesting as well.

Lemon 8th, by the way, is an app from a company in Singapore that is uses.

It's not from the folks that make TikTok, but it's used.

Actually, it might be affiliated with that company, but it uses some of the underlying

TikTok stuff.

And it sort of feels like an Instagram or a Pinterest and that you sort of share, you

know, curated information or pictures on fashion, food, travel, stuff like that.

So it's not one that I'm familiar with, but that's what that app is.

So then those are, with minor exceptions, those are well-known, which makes sense because they're free, so everybody can use them.

Gruber also lists the top 20 paid apps, and I'm not going to read every one of them, but I will say that here there are some that you may have heard of.

But for me, there's many that I had not heard before.

And it just goes to show that once people pay money, and for a lot of people, that's a big thing to pay money, but then you get into a whole different types of apps.

Number one is called hot schedules, which I'm guessing is something to do with, um,

you know, something like that, uh, great empower your team with workforce management, you know,

stay connected and stuff like that.

Um, you know, the, I won't go through it.

Paprika is on here, which is, I know is a good one for recipes.

My wife loves paprika.

Yeah.

She uses it all the time.

Things is on here, right?

You got things down here.

You made things.

And I use the, I word the things app for my to-do list.

My wife uses it extensively too.

And that's a really good one.

And one thing that's interesting-

Ubrowser.

This Ubrowser made it.

Yeah.

So this is actually, it's not an iPhone or an iPad app.

This is an Apple Watch app.

And I did a review of it a long time ago.

I remember you did.

You say Ubrowser, and I know why you're saying that out loud.

Yeah, what is it?

Umlaut, move, move.

That first little thing is whatever that little Greek letter is, apparently it stands for micro when it's used in scientific technology.

And so the idea is it's micro browser and it's called that because this is a web browser for your Apple watch.

And you may see a, my Apple watch screen is so tiny.

Why in the world?

But on that very rare instance where you want to pull up some information that is on a web page and assuming that it's a web page that works with this micro browser app, it will work.

And I will tell you, you know, it's very rare that my iPhone is not with me, but sometimes that's the case.

And I have had instances in the past where I have just had my Apple Watch and I wanted

to pull up something really small from a website.

Sometimes it was even something I wanted to look at something that I wrote on iPhone JD

and I'm like, what did I say in this sentence?

And I could pull it up on my Apple Watch and for using the internet in a pinch, it does

work.

So, and it's not a very expensive app.

I forget what I paid for it, just a couple of bucks.

So, but how interesting that there is an app that's an Apple Watch only app and it made

the top 20 list of top. That's crazy. Good for them. Bravo. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff on that.

I'll make sure that I put the link to John Gruber's list and then Apple has their official list in here

as well. But these are always fun to kind of go through and look at and see and compare like with

what you have. I remember talking about you browser years ago when that first came out and I did the

same thing. I bought it and I just have it on my watch. I rarely ever use it, but every once in a

while it's like, oh yeah, because, you know, people might think, well, of course, Safari is on my

iPhone. Safari is on my iPad. Safari should be on my Apple watch. Nope. They didn't actually put it

on there. And so having this as the micro browser is interesting there. Let's do a where you at

segment. We haven't done one in a while, but this was an interesting story from, he's a journalist,

I believe Stephen Pollard. This is a story in the Times where he's a confessed techno geek,

and he likes having the newest and greatest technology. He even actually has leukemia,

I think he talks about here in this article. But the Apple Watch was able to find some weird rhythms

in his heartbeat where that led him to go and preemptively get some care for that before

it became a tragedy.

Yeah.

What was that was interesting is that, you know, he said he was successfully treating

his leukemia with all of this medication.

And he says, what a wonderful world we live in that, you know, he has a type of, you know,

there's actually some good treatments for him.

But what he did not know is when a doctor had prescribed some medicine from him for

another condition he was having, that there was this interaction between medicines.

And we always hear about this, right?

You know, and this is why you want to make sure your doctor knows everything you're taking.

And yet, even though he was dead, everything right, for whatever reason, the doctor that

prescribed something to him should not have done so.

And there was this interaction with the medicines.

And suddenly he was in a bad situation.

And, you know, fortunately, so that, you know, he realized that and he managed to call his

sister and get some help.

But when the doctor was trying to figure out what was going on, the key factor was that

he was able to say, you know what? My Apple watch has been giving me these alerts about such and

such. And the doctor is like, oh, well, if that's what's going on, I know exactly what's happening

here. This is an interact, a bad interaction. Fortunately, he caught it in time before it was

too late. But so it's, you know, we all, we hear stories about people, my Apple watch saved my life

because I fell down. You know, my Apple watch saved my life because I was lost in the desert,

You know, all these things.

But this is the first time that I have seen a report of adverse medicine interaction that

the Apple Watch played a role in there.

And his doctor told him that this could have saved your life.

So, wow.

That's amazing.

And you had another quick story about the Apple Watch 2, a new study confirming that

it improves the detection of atrial fibrillation.

I don't know if I can pull it up here, the story or not.

But just interesting to continue to hear how the Apple Watch, like you said, I mean, you know, maybe some people will think it's a little bit of a stretch to say, well, it saved my life.

But to your point, if it plays a role and you at least, you know, making an inquiry with your practitioner, your health care practitioner, then by golly, that's fantastic.

Yeah, yeah.

This is nothing new.

We've always known that the Apple Watch can play a role, but this is an independent outside study that confirmed it, which, you know, you would hope that Apple is doing their own research.

But it's nice to have the outside folks do their independent research and confirming that, yeah, no, this does make a difference for atrial defibrillation.

Now for the review we have all been waiting for an entire week, Jeff.

How was Top Dogs on the Apple Vision Pro?

I am sad to report that I have no firsthand knowledge.

And it's not for lack of trying.

Typically, when Apple comes out with a new show on a Friday, it actually comes out shortly after midnight Eastern time, which means for me, 11 p.m. Central time.

So last night I actually went, and before I went to sleep, I'm like, let me put on my Vision Pro.

Let me look.

And I found the page.

It's right there advertised on the Vision Pro, but unfortunately, it wasn't available yet.

So I'm guessing that maybe when I get home tonight, it will be there.

So I haven't seen it.

But what I did appreciate was the report from Jason Snell.

We've been talking about this a lot today.

He and his partner, Dan Morin, they got an Apple released, you know, sometimes when movies

or TV shows come out, they'll give like the pre-release versions to certain reviewers and

stuff.

And so earlier this week, Jason and Dan also were able to get a look at it.

And what was interesting to me here is it just showed out, we talked about AI being cutting

edge and it's the future.

the immersive video in Vision Pro is also just such a new thing that we're all figuring how to do it.

We talked about this with the basketball game a couple of weeks ago, the Lakers game.

Yes, I remember.

It was just such a new way and different way to experience a game that they're just trying things out.

And some things are going to work and some things are not.

I remember reading this a long time ago when movie technology first came out, which was like the late 1800s or something like that.

one of the things that they would do for movies is they would have a play on stage and just have a

single movie camera that recorded it because at the time the only way that people really contemplated

stories being told through actors was a play and so of course if you have a movie of it it would

just be a single camera looking and staying in one position look at the movie and then over time

people realized that movies could be better if the camera didn't just look at the stage but actually

moved around and of course movies 100 years later are much more so we're at that same stage with

if people are not sure, what should I do with this 3D camera?

And so what Jason Sinez, his review is that he said the camera moved around too much.

And I've noticed this, that again, not from this video, but from other videos,

when something is done with immersive 3D video, you find yourself looking up, looking down,

looking around, and you sort of need the camera to stay still so that you yourself can have time

to understand the environment and appreciate it.

it's okay to have the camera change, but you can't do it that quickly because you need to get your

bearings. And so he said the director of this one moved the camera too much for him to get his

bearings and did too many quick cuts, which is the world we live in, right? In this TikTok world,

a YouTube world of like, we have these quick shorts. I mean, how many movies do we have

nowadays that things are so quick to go from shot to shot? And you look back at a movie that was made

in the 70s or 80s.

And you know how it feels sort of slow?

It's like, why isn't there more action?

You know, but it was just a different way

of filming things.

And so we're in the same place with this.

So anyway, at some point this weekend,

maybe tonight, I will have a chance

to look at the fun dogs

and see if I agree with him.

But regardless of whether I agree

with his take or not,

I know what he's talking about,

that this is new technology.

But again, the Vision Pro is so new.

We have lots of time

to figure all this stuff out.

You know, we got to keep pushing the envelope,

seeing what works, you know, trying it out.

That's a nice in the vision pro segment that goes to the dogs.

We'll hear about it next week from you.

Then how about a quick in the show segment to wrap this up today?

The outstanding new season of shrinking is going to be coming to Apple TV

pretty soon.

And then you had another story here with all of the other shows that are

coming to Apple TV pretty soon.

Let me just say, have you watched shrinking at all?

I think I watched the first episode a couple of years ago because it's been out for a while, right?

I mean, this has Harrison Ford in it.

Is that right?

Yeah.

That's right.

That's right.

We watched it, and I remember when I started it years ago, the first episode or two was a little slow, but I got into it, and then I was like, you know what?

This is a charming show.

I really enjoyed it.

It's a really nicely done show, the very first TV show that Harrison Ford has ever done.

It's a good show.

I really liked it.

from Bill Lawrence, who of course did, you know, Scrubs and so many other fantastic shows like Ted

Lasso. And Shrinking is a great show. And I'm glad that it continues to move forward. And, you know,

a little bit of a spoiler alert, but we've mentioned this in the past. I know that this

new season three, which came out, I think two days ago on Wednesday, I haven't seen it yet.

At some point, it's going to have Michael J. Fox in it, which will be interesting because we all

love him. So I would just say, like, if you're looking for a new show to watch, I really like

shrinking. It's a good, it's funny, but it's also got some very serious moments in it. And my wife

and I have really enjoyed watching the first two seasons. Season three is now available and Apple

has already picked it up for a season four. So, you know, this show is, it's good. And I will tell

you, you know, it's worth putting, anyone listening to this, it's worth putting in your list. If you

already know it, then, you know, you're excited like I am for season three. And if you haven't

checked it out yet, it's worth checking out. And I also see that in terms of new stuff coming this

month, there's a movie called Eternity, which I had not paid attention to yet. I don't know

much about it. And I'm looking, yeah, we'll have to see. Apple's movies, in my estimation,

have not been as good as their TV shows. They've had a few that are good, like I did enjoy

and it just got an Oscar nomination. But we'll see. So it's a romantic comedy. If you're looking

for a good romantic comedy on February 13th, that one will come out.

Solves entering the afterlife have one week to decide where to spend eternity.

Okay.

That's interesting.

Interesting twist on that.

More monsters.

I still haven't seen the Monarch, the first season of the monsters.

This is, I guess, King Kong.

It's the Godzilla show.

Yeah, the Godzilla show, right?

So that's coming out.

And then, like you said, new episodes of Shrinking and then Hijack.

I haven't watched the first Hijack.

I've kind of stayed away from it just because I travel so much.

I don't want to know any of that.

But a few other shows are going to be dropping as well, which is good.

I will tell you, season one of Hijack was, yeah, I hear what you're saying.

I know you've talked about it before.

I don't think it's going to make you scared.

It was good.

It's an action-packed, nonstop, you know, adrenaline rush.

I really enjoyed season one.

Okay, okay.

And I've just started watching season two.

I think I'm one or two episodes in.

And it's this season two.

It looks like season two has more to do with a train than an airplane.

We got trains, planes, and all the wheels.

Oh, okay.

So we'll-

I can already tell that it's got some twists

to keep it interesting.

And the star of it,

and I'm forgetting his name.

Is it Idris?

Idris?

Yeah.

Yeah, how you pronounce his name?

He's excellent.

I first got to know him when he was in The Wire

way back when, one of the best shows of all time.

Right, right.

So I like Hijack.

If you're looking for something exciting,

it's a great show.

Well, I was just thinking,

I've got a long flight coming up.

And I was like,

then I'm like, I don't know if I want to like, I don't want my seatmate to be look over and see,

you know, me watching plans on the hijack anyway. But I have heard many, many good things about it.

In the know, in the know, you know, you know, Jeff, and you all of you know, listening,

both Jeff and I are big fans of one password. So anytime that I go to a new site or sign up for

something, I always use 1Password because it is my trusted repository that I can go and find

everything that I've logged into. Now, recently, however, there have been several sites or

subscriptions or services that I sign up, and all of you have seen this. I was just talking with

somebody about this the other day, that you can go to a site and it will give you typically three

options. You can sign up with an email address, just like we've always done, right? And then you

put in your password. You could sign up with your Google account. So in other words, you don't have

to come up with your own password. You just use your Google password that you already have. Or you

also see a button that says sign in with Apple. And I like this. I don't use it all the time,

but every once in a while, especially if there's apps, like if you download an app, like let's say,

you know, carrot weather or something like that, instead of creating an entire, my own entire new

custom login or password, I'll just say, use my Apple ID. And I like it on the iPhone because

instead of having to remember a password, it will actually just use my face ID. In fact, I think

it's not even really a password. It's kind of hard to say a password because they use that. It's a

token-based cryptographic key, right? It's all built in and saved within your iCloud account.

But here's the issue that I keep running into, Jeff. When I haven't gone to that site that I signed up with Apple and back a couple of months later, it asked me to log in. And I can't remember if I used my own password or did I use my Apple login?

You know, typically if I go and upgrade my iPad and I had to re-login to some of these services and it says, you know, log in and I'm like, oh, I can't remember.

Did I create a password for that or did I use the sign in with Apple?

Because I will go to 1Password.

I know that I've got an account for this service or this app, but 1Password doesn't have it in there because it wasn't saved in 1Password.

And I kept thinking to myself, okay, what should I do when I log in to sign in with Apple?

Do I just note that in 1Password somewhere?

because I've done that for a couple of them.

But I was happy to report where this is getting to

is when you sign in with your Apple account onto a service,

it actually automatically includes it

into the Apple passwords app.

Now, there's a couple of ways you can get to this, actually.

If you go into your settings

and you go into your iCloud account,

I believe, in fact, let me just confirm this

on my phone real quick.

If you tap on your face and you go down,

there is a sign in with Apple little option there.

And if you tap on that, it'll actually go

and it will show you all of the services

or the apps that you've used,

the sign in with Apple option on there.

So I've got the whole list here.

Like for example, day one,

that really good calendar diary

that you can put in like a journaling app in Apple.

I didn't create a day one login with my own email.

I just use my Apple email.

And I like using this because sometimes you can say, don't use my real email, just use my Apple email, right?

And that's a good way to do that as well.

And I just kind of like that.

But if you go into your settings and you go into your iCloud settings, you can see sign in with Apple.

And that's one place to find it.

You can also open your Apple passwords app and then you can see them all listed there.

Now, that will you typically they'll be mixed in with all of the other logins.

If you use that passwords app, I just don't ever use the passwords app.

I use the 1Password app.

But in many cases, a lot of times I'm like,

I would get frustrated just simply because

I didn't have anything in 1Password.

I needed to log into the service.

And I was like, well, how do I know

if I use my Apple sign-in or not?

And this is at least the best way I know now

to be able to find if I use the sign-in with Apple service,

which again, is a great thing.

It's just, I can't keep track of

whether I use my own email address

or whether I use the sign-in with Apple.

And at least now I hate to have to check two places,

but this is the way to do it.

The last thing quickly I'll say is once I found this,

I said, okay, well, can I export

all of these sign-in with Apple passwords

from the passwords app

and then import it into my one password app?

Well, apparently they don't let you export

any of your sign-in with Apple options there.

So right now I can't like, you know,

share them back and forth between the two apps.

which gets me a little frustrated,

but at least now I know that there's one location

or a couple of locations that I can go

to see what I've used, sign in with Apple.

So that's my tip for the day.

This is a great tip.

I didn't know this.

Like use, I typically use my password manager,

one password when I create logins and passwords.

But every once in a while,

I have a reason that it makes more sense

to use the sign in with Apple.

Sometimes it's because it's like a throwaway app.

I'm not gonna take the trouble of doing it.

Just like, I just wanna use it, get me in.

If I ever go back, you'll know it.

And sometimes there are other reasons that I do it.

But I, like you, I didn't really know that there's a list.

And so I see that when I open up my settings app on my iPhone, at the very bottom where they have the search field, if I just type S-I-G, like the S-I-G-N.

Oh, good.

I only type those first three letters.

And right at the top, I see the third option is sign in with Apple.

And if I go there and I tap it, I can now see that I've got one, two, three, four, five, six, you know, I would say maybe 15 or so things that I have an Apple sign in.

than you thought probably and some of these are apps that i haven't really used much um correct

right but some of them are apps that i use all the time um uh and so it's interesting to see like

good notes for example i could not use the word the good notes app anymore a pdf expert um and i

guess i'm using sign in with apple because i share through icloud and stuff like that or trial pad

so this is really interesting i did not know there was a single list of all of those and i'm really

glad to know where they are in case i need to manage that thank you one other thing quickly that i i

find interesting if you go into the sign in with apple in your iCloud it just basically tells you

this is what it but if you go to that same login in your passwords app it'll actually tell you the

date that you created that or that you did it so that's helpful for me because it's like you know

when did i create this sign in with apple account you know just having access to that information

like if i go into day one for example i see that i created it on january 10th 2021 so that just is

helpful to me. And it tells me if I actually shared my email or in some cases it'll, it'll tell

me if I just chose to hide my email, right? That's one of the options when you do a sign in with Apple

and it'll tell you that information in the passwords app as well. This is cool. Thank you,

Brad. I did not know any of this. Absolutely. Um, my tip today is something that should have been

the very first thing we talked about today, not the new air tags, not the new AI, but the very

exciting ABA American Bar Station tech show conference, which is going to be at the end

of March. And I know the reason you didn't put it up front. It's because you are a modest man and

you are the co-chair this year and you did not want to self-promote, but I will be happy to

promote both you and the conference. I will tell you, I have been going to tech show, um, almost,

not every year, but on and off, uh, for a very long time. The first time that I went there was,

you know, gosh, over 20 years, 20 years ago, something like that.

Wow.

Tech show itself has been around for like 40 years, right?

I guess this is the 41st year.

This is 41st.

Yep.

This is the 41st conference.

You have been a board member for many years.

You have been the chair once in the past, and you're going to be the chair again this

year, along with Patrick Wright.

But this is going to be a fantastic conference.

So, you know, what is this?

You know, if you're a lawyer, you need to get your CLEs.

And so, and if you want to do some CLEs that have to do with technology, there's a number

of options out there.

but the tech show is really one of the best.

They're great sessions.

I mean, every time I look at the schedule that I'm there,

it's like, you know, between, you know,

between nine and 10, there are six different tracks.

And I look at it and I'm like,

well, I really want to do this one,

but like there's another one that's good too.

And maybe there'll be one or two that don't interest me,

but there's going to always be several that do.

And then it's the question of which one do I go to?

And, you know, sometimes I pick that

based on who I think is a better presenter,

but, you know, it's a good problem to have

that there are so many.

I learned so much from the sessions.

That in itself is good.

You know, things about AI, technology, security, new apps, you know, everything in the world

of legal technology you learn about.

Second of all, the expo floor is always really, really good because there are all the vendors

there and, you know, they're paying money to bring their stuff, their people, because

they want to sell you stuff, I suppose.

And that's fine.

But like, it gives me a chance to get up close.

I will tell you just, for example, last year at the expo floor, I won't name names, but

there was a specific vendor that I was very curious if for my law firm, because I'm the chair of our

technology committee at our firm, I was like, you know, we've got hundreds of lawyers. Do our lawyers

want to use this? And I was able to sit there with the people and their product, see all the bells

and whistles, talk to the people. And I was for one of them, I was able to say, you know what,

this actually does not meet a need that we have right now, but you can't know that unless I'm

trying it. And at the same time, just down the hallway, there was another one that I'm like,

this is the bee's knees. This is really cool. And I'm so glad that I had a chance to see it

firsthand. And it's not just see the technology. I mean, you're talking with the people from the

company that make it and they will sometimes tell you about future plans. I remember many,

many years ago, the fine folks at Lit Software showed me a preview version of the timeline pad

that is now a shipping product,

but I got to see a sneak peek of it years ago

at Tech Show when they were still working on it.

So, you know, it's all those cool things

that if you have an interest in law and technology,

it's the place to be.

Now, I could have stopped there,

but as I mentioned in the post,

this year, I just love the fact

that thanks to your wise efforts,

you managed to not just give us a Tech Show, Brett,

but you managed to give us a Comic-Con type experience

right next to us.

Oh, yeah.

100,000 people are going to be going to the C2, E2 section, and it's going to be right next to

tech show. So when you walk from the hotel to tech shows conference area, you're going to walk

through this area. That's going to be all the people wearing cosplay and all of the movie stuff

and the comic stuff and entertainment. And it's just going to be excited. I have always wanted

to go. I mean, again, I'm not going to sign up for this, but I've always wanted to see this,

you know, see this type of a thing. And the idea that I'm going to get a chance to walk through

this every single day throughout the day, I may have to be doing a lot more walk. So maybe I'll

have to skip some of those fun sessions that are good just to walk around and experience this.

And, you know, I think it's hilarious because I mean, how many lawyer, I mean, the law lawyers and

law adjacent will probably have, you know, just a few thousand people at tech show,

and it's going to be a hundred thousand people at this thing. So they're going to dwarf in terms,

but the excitement and the energy.

And what I love is that those of you planning tech show

have decided to take advantage of that.

And it looks to me like I'm just on the outside,

but like I had to turn in our papers,

you know how for CLE you have the written papers,

which are always really good for tech show.

And when I was turning it in this week

and looking at the templates that y'all are using,

it looks obvious to me that y'all have

like a sort of a comic book theme for tech show,

which is going to be awesome.

So like everything that I love about tech show is great,

but this year is going to be special.

So I'm looking forward to it.

I always meet, by the way,

people that listen to our podcast

and that I know every year

we get to meet people.

You know, sometimes people

that I only know from email,

I get to meet them firsthand.

And so like anyone listening to this,

if you if it fits in your schedule

to join us in Chicago,

this is going to be a great year to come.

So I really love, you know,

I can't wait myself.

I'm going to have fun doing presentations.

I'm doing one on iPads.

I'm doing one on wearable technology.

Yes.

Just the whole experience is going to be great.

So I just want to give a little plug, you know, as you're planning your CLEs for the

calendar year, 2026, consider going to tech show.

It's going to be awesome.

Thanks, Jeff.

You can go to techshow.com, techshow.com.

You can see it's going to be March.

It's like the full day of March 26th, March 27th, and then a half a day on the Saturday

of March 28th.

but you can get all the information.

We're currently upgrading and uploading

all of the information to the website right now.

So it's getting updated with everything on there.

The sessions, very, very proud of.

I'm thrilled to have you back.

And I would just say quickly for anybody that comes,

I mean, all the sessions are fantastic,

but I'll just speak on Jeff's behalf.

One of the things that I've always enjoyed,

this is how Jeff and I originally met each other

and got to know, like we were both excited

about a lot of the same things.

And Jeff will answer any questions for you that you're there.

That's what we enjoy so much is just interacting with a lot of the people that come out.

And it's just a good opportunity to interact and to talk with folks and to get some answers

or like, how are you doing this?

And we'll even sit there and show you things that we're doing.

And it's just a lot of fun.

So I'm so glad.

Thanks for your write-up on there as well.

Well, that's in a couple of months.

But we've got a lot more to go between now and then.

although we'll probably be talking about it a little bit more as well.

Thanks, Jeff, as always.

And we will talk with you next week.

Thanks, Brett.

Bye-bye, everybody.