Welcome to In The News for April the 3rd, 2026. I am Brett Burney from AppsinLaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhoneJD. We have so much to celebrate right now, Brett,

because first of all, I want to begin by just saying I tip my hat, which I am not wearing to

you, because last weekend, the American Bar Association Tech Show Conference, which you

co-chaired, was literally one for the record books. It was, I mean, literally, because there

were more people than ever, but it was such a fantastic conference. You should feel so happy.

with all the work that you put into it because it just was great.

It was everybody there had great things to say.

The content was fantastic.

The people were enthusiastic.

And then having that comic show right next to us.

Oh, my goodness.

I mean, I'm walking into my session to talk about technology and stuff like that.

And like, you know, Darth Vader and Boba Fett are walking across me.

I'm like, what world am I living in?

It was just unbelievable.

We had so much fun.

And the video that we released last week, again, if you only listen to the audio,

which is how I normally listen to my podcast, so I totally understand it.

You might just take a quick look.

There's just so much funny videos in the first five minutes of the costumes.

It was just fantastic.

Well, and just real quick on that, Jeff, you know as well as I do

that the little video clips that you put in here are just a sliver

of the amazing creativity that we saw from the cosplay actors

and the entertainment.

I mean, this isn't just the Comic-Con because it's the entertainment expo as well.

And so you had the widest breadth between like Marvel characters to Star Wars to Harry Potter.

You name it, it was there.

And I just could not get over.

We were just talking earlier about how we would just we would stand there just watching the stream of people come through.

And it was just so incredible.

I mean, truly, it just made me so happy to be there and to see all of that.

Oh, my goodness.

Because of the creativity of people.

I agree.

And, you know, there are like amazing like, you know, Superman and Batman costumes.

But that's probably something you would buy off the shelf.

You know, so many of the people had clearly made their own costumes and were so innovative and creative and just detailed.

And it was just I was just amazing.

It was it was so much fun.

Plus, again, but again, that was the sideshow.

The conference was fantastic.

So that was, you know, kudos to you and to Patrick.

It was a great show.

Well, yes.

Yeah.

You know this, of course, like anything else.

It's not just a couple of us.

There was a whole planning board that we had.

There's like 14 of us, which I was just so thrilled with.

There's the whole ABA staff, which are just amazing.

A lot of them have been doing this for multiple years.

And then we have other partners, you know, for the exposition hall and for setting up all of the social events and stuff.

And it is truly, you know, a village that brings it all together.

And then, of course, not to mention the speakers.

I was just so thrilled that you were there to be able to speak on a couple of sessions.

You know, if we didn't have the speakers, we wouldn't have the attendees that wanted to come and listen to the speakers.

And so I'm just always thankful, of course, for so many people that make it a success.

Yeah, it was.

By the way, you did a very nice job interviewing Eli Patel.

He had a great presentation, too.

He was just so fascinating.

I mean, he is so smart and he has he had so many interesting things to say about the

future of technology and and and the intersection of technology and law.

So anyway, great, great show.

But I mean, that was the thing that was in our life.

I mean, of course, the other big thing I'm wearing, I don't know if you can see my my

one of my Apple shirts.

Hey, look at that Apple shirt there.

It is the 50th anniversary this week, 50th anniversary of Apple Computer.

50 years old.

And, I mean, you link to so many great stories, and you can determine where you want to start here.

Because I had seen so many – I mean, I was a little out of the news cycle last week.

But there were so many stories about this.

I mean, I saw everybody from, obviously, the big journal, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and everything covering it.

But then just everybody and like sharing their own thoughts.

And, you know, there's so many of us that are probably of the same vintage as Apple these days.

And there's so many good stories.

You even link to some from Jason Snell and some folks that have been using Apple products for so long.

And it's just been wonderful to kind of walk down, again, multiple memory lanes for this past week or so.

But really just to hear and to kind of see and understand, you know, the evolution of this company that means so much to so many of us today that because we're just using so many of these products on a daily basis and relying on them so much.

Yeah. So many aspects of it that were interesting and you touched on, you know, of course, it was, you know, the 50 years ago.

So a lot of people wanted to talk about the founding of Apple in those early days.

and there were great stories.

I mean, like I said,

the Upgrade podcast

where Jason sort of did an oral history.

It's a very different format

from the normal podcasts

and he's telling a story

and it's sort of like

the rest is history podcast,

something like that.

You know, he's basically

just telling the stories of it

and some of them are stories

that we've heard before

and some of them are things

that I've seen in that David Polk book,

which is so fantastic

and some of them are stories

I had not heard

but all of those origin stories

are just really interesting

and it also just,

not only is it interesting

to hear about, you know,

the, you know,

Apple and at the time, you know, there, but it's, it just is an interesting reminder. I mean,

I was obviously a little kid at the, at the time that Apple was founded, but you go into the 1980s

as Apple was starting to be big and I was in middle school and then high school, but you know,

it just, the, the world of computers was just so different. Um, and you know, nobody really knew

what the future was going to be, except that we all sort of, we could tell that computers were

going to be big. You know, I heard a number of people say that, you know, everyone would tell

parents and Apple even had some advertising campaigns that capitalized on this, that, you know,

you want your kids to be using computers because computers are going to be the future. We all knew

that was the case. I mean, it's, I think today where people are saying, you know, use AI because

we know that AI is going to be the future. We can't tell you exactly how, and some things are

not going to work and some things are going to work, but it's clear that this is transformative.

The same was true 50 years ago and 40 years ago. The personal computer was clearly going to be the

future and people were trying different things. And every time someone came out with a new computer

be incompatible with everything before, but that was fine because that's just how it was done. So

it was, I thought it was really interesting and it's not just computers. You know, one of the

stories that struck me is that so many things clicked to make Apple a success in the beginning.

Of course, the fact that the Apple II computer was one of the first all-in-one computers,

you didn't have to put it together in a kit. Everything was there. You could purchase it and

you could do all the useful things with it. But one of the things that really made it successful

was actually the disk drive.

And there were interesting stories about how Apple knew

that the cassette drives were problematic

and they needed something to store more.

And they had found a company that was making a disk drive,

but it was expensive.

And so they basically cut a deal to pay half the price

to just get unassembled disk drives

because Steve Wozniak, who was just so brilliant

and had created the Apple computer and everything else,

that he had come up with a way to make the disk drive

much more efficient and cheaper.

and I'm sure you do remember, but like, you know, in the eighties having an into the nineties,

even, but you know, having that floppy disk drive that you could just, I mean, I, I did not own an

Apple computer. My parents certainly couldn't afford it, but what I did own was a couple of

floppy disks. You know, I could spend a few bucks in that. And I had my little case and I would carry

with me to school and those floppy disks had my, you know, my games on it, my programs, whatever.

So I could just sit in front of an Apple computer in the lab and write that disk into the Apple

disk drive. And it just changed everything to be able to have that random access and the capacity

and everything else. And, you know, people don't talk about the disk drive, but that was as

revolutionary. You know, once Apple did that, everybody else was like, oh, we have to have

disk drives too. And we all did it. And then of course, Apple changed things again when, you know,

with the Macintosh and they'd said, you know, we're not going to have the floppy disks. We're

going to have like the smaller three and a half inch hard disks that are much more durable. But,

you know, there's so many examples of Apple between the user interface and the hardware and the

software just changing things that we now look back at and we're like, well, of course, that's

the way it was supposed to be. You know, I think we even talked last week about the example of,

you know, it used to be that portable computers, which were so huge, but the keyboards would be

near the front because that's how typewriters were. And someone at Apple had the idea of, wait,

if you push the keyboard back, you could have like a palm rest. And of course, everything,

I mean, you know, every keyboard now has that, but there are all these ideas that smart people

came up with and Apple was often a part of. So it's, you know, 50 years, I think is an appropriate

time to sort of, to look back. So that's, that's one set of the stories is the origin stories,

the creation stories, but it was just as interesting, as you said, to talk about,

you know, people talking about what Apple made to them and meant to them. And I saw so many stories

this week that I'm like, am I going to read this? Cause it's just a personal story. And I'm like,

this is so interesting. You know, someone talking about, you know, often they were younger,

like a teenager, like me, you know, using them in a computer lab or something like that. But

stories of when they first became exposed to Apple technology. And of course, for some people,

they weren't exposed to Apple technology until the nineties or the, for some people, it was the iPod

was the first time they used an Apple product in the two thousands. For some people, of course,

it was an iPhone was the first time they used an Apple product, but wherever it was that you picked

up on the Apple train along the way, you know, you have all your stories about how it changed so much

in my personal life for me to have an iPod or to have an iPhone or to have an iPad or whatever it

is so those were those were fun to read this week too this is probably my favorite here from david

pogue which you had mentioned because you're reading his newest book apple the first 50 years

we talked about that last week or a couple weeks ago just because we've been following david pogue

for a long time i didn't realize like you know he really wanted to focus on me and like a songwriter

and a and an actor and you know a broadway producer um or a broadway actor but he ended up

just doing this technology coverage and becoming such a more influential voice in that aspect.

Go ahead.

Yeah, a conductor is what he was.

He played piano, keyboard, but he was mainly a conductor.

But his interesting, you know, one of the many stories he has that's on the page that

you're showing right now is the reason that he got introduced to the Mac was a reason that

for many of us was the reason it was for me that Apple had this great program and they

still have educational discounts today where you could get very deep discounts if you had

an educational price for a computer.

And so he said that he had an opportunity to buy a Mac, which was so expensive at the time, for half price.

And so before he graduated college, he's like, well, I might as well take advantage of this and get the Mac for half price.

You know, because, you know, computers are the future, as they say.

And then that was his beginning.

And it was the same for me, too.

I mean, when I bought my first Mac Plus, you know, I was taking advantage of that student discount to be able to afford it.

And, you know, you fast forward to today, you know, the entry point into the Macintosh world right now is this brand new Macintosh Neo.

And even though the starting price, if you walk into an Apple store is 600 bucks, if you get the educational discount and it's and it's very easy to get that if you've got access to a school or a student or something, you're paying 500 bucks.

And like that is just an incredible.

And the point is, much like David Pogue or me getting their first Mac, the point is not.

I mean, it's not just that first computer.

It's the idea that once you have it, you're going to find yourself understanding, you know, all the things you could do with computers.

And then from Apple standpoint, they want your next computer to be a Mac and your next computer.

And they hope that you'll be spending 50 years buying Apple products.

And that was certainly true for David Pogue and for me and for many others.

Just so interesting.

But it's just the idea like he didn't start off as a computer kid as much as like you and I did.

But because he even talks about how he turned it on.

There was a blinking cursor there.

And the instruction manual said he should insert an application.

And he's like, a what?

But it's just the idea that he was able to figure it out.

I mean, obviously, you know, us following David Pope for so long, it was it wasn't that much of a surprise there.

But then as he goes through and he starts writing for I don't know where he started out, but ultimately, obviously, it was for The New York Times.

And it was it was just so interesting to hear his interactions with Steve Jobs, like when he didn't give a good review of the new iMovie, Steve Jobs calls him.

And I believe here in this story, Steve Jobs was ultimately right.

He was telling David Pogue, you're never going to digitize those videos, which is one of the things that he had said in his video.

And he goes, 10 years later, I had all those tapes digitized so they'd be ready to edit when I had the time.

And that day still hasn't come.

And of course, this is like 20 something years later.

And Steve Jobs was correct on that, which I thought was pretty amazing on there.

That was the first story.

And then the second one here was amazing.

I remember this when the iPhone came out,

David Pogue famously put a video on YouTube

with the song My Way, but with words.

It was a parody, right?

And Steve Jobs called him.

He was at dinner with his family.

And Steve Jobs says it was so funny.

He very much enjoyed it.

And then the last one here,

just because I really enjoyed this entire story,

the Pogue feature, the Pogue feature.

Apparently, the reason that we have screenshots

on the iPhone today is because David Pogue, when he was writing his first, what his books were,

oh, the missing manual, right? He wanted screenshots to be put in there. And there

was no way to do screenshots of the iPhone at the time, which just blows my mind today. Anybody

listening to this would be like, why wouldn't there have been screenshots on there? But he

needed screenshots. The first book he used, Apple did like a special thing for him. He flew out to

Cupertino. They did all the screenshots. The second book, the updated version, they were not going to

again but he where where where does he say it in here he goes we've decided we're just going to

build a feature into the iphone this is apple talking we've decided we're just going to build

a feature into the iphone that lets anyone capture screenshots internally we're calling it the pogue

feature and to this day so in other words this whole story i think at the very top david pogue

mentions the fact that some one of the readers of his new book said hey you've left out all of

your involvement with Apple over these years.

They had known that this story and others were part of this.

And David Pogue, of course, I think said yes.

I mean, that's not the reason that he wrote the book, right?

But I feel like that this is sort of like an addendum to the book.

It's this article here that he's written about all of these stories that he was involved in.

And thank you, David Pogue, for the ability to take screenshots on my iPhone and iPad today.

I mean, iPhone JD website would be very different if I couldn't take screenshots of apps as I

review them. So we definitely, definitely need that feature for sure. It was also interesting this,

yeah, it was also interesting this week to look back at the way that Apple also celebrated. And I

say that because the company is so famous for not looking back. They don't give interviews. They,

they just, they never look to the past. They're always, it's just been their corporate mantra

since day one. If we look at the future and yet they relented this week for the last two weeks,

really, they relented and they finally said, okay, we're going to have a little celebrations about

this. And, you know, the, the, of course they had something for, for many of the employees that were

lucky enough to the lottery system to get to go into the Apple campus, right in the middle of the

spaceship there at Apple park and have a concert that was that was Paul McCartney, which there were

a lot of people that had some video clips of that, that I've seen on social media of it, of, you know,

sir, Saul, Paul McCartney performing under the, the, the multicolored, you know, Apple rainbow

that's right there in the middle of Apple park, which was really, really cool. And of course there's,

There's a certain degree of, I don't know, of coming full circle on that because there's the infamous story of, you know, Apple named itself Apple and the Beatles record label was Apple Core.

And there were multiple lawsuits over the years about that, which we've talked about this in the past.

We didn't have Beatles music on iTunes for so long because of that.

Right.

So it was a nice full circle to sort of, you know, finally have, you know, Paul McCartney, you know, one of the Beatles right there on Apple's campus.

It just sort of shows that, you know, everything's together.

Not that Paul McCartney was necessarily personally involved in that stuff.

That was more the label than him.

But but anyway, and I also know that, you know, Steve Jobs, you know, I guess the number one

artist that he probably admired was Bob Dylan.

But number two is definitely the Beatles.

So he certainly would have been very happy to have a Sir Paul on campus.

But in addition to that, Apple did something that they very, you know, that they really

do.

There's there's unlike many other companies or institutions where you can go and they have

some sort of a museum on their campus that you can sometimes see, you know, the company

in history.

I mean, I remember years ago, we were up in New York where Corning is.

In fact, Corning, of course, makes the screens for the iPhones.

But they have all these cool exhibits that talk about, you know, the history of Corning

glass and fiber optics.

And, you know, many companies have these, you know, things that you can sort of see their

place in history because they are rightfully proud of it.

But Apple doesn't have anything like that on its campus.

In fact, I was surprised to learn when David Pogue put together his book that they actually

have an archivist on staff at Apple that does keep some of these things, maybe just for internal

purposes. But so the Wall Street Journal had a very fun video that I had at the end of the post

today. I think it was Ben Cohen there who went over and he was, Apple showed to him something

that I had seen on social media was right there at the company. I forget what building it was,

but they had gone through their archives and they had found, of course, some of the

famous products over the year, like the original iMac and stuff like that. But more interesting

was they had some of the original prototypes.

And it's so funny because they have this prototype

for things like an iPod or something like that.

And you look at it on the table and it's huge

because they would have a little screen,

but then there would be a cable connected to it

and they would have all of these parts.

You're like, how are you gonna fit all this

into the final product at the end?

But because they're still creating it,

everything sort of exploded out.

And it was just fascinating to see,

you almost never see these things,

these examples of the behind the scenes,

how they put things together,

um you know there's there's a prototype of an apple watch it's got all these cords coming out

of it and stuff like that this one right you can see the screen of the apple watch but then like

all this other stuff like at some engineer has to say oh my goodness this thing's gonna weigh 20

pounds you know how are we gonna get this into something that can put on your wrist but i guess

they know that they're gonna get there eventually so i i really enjoyed this video and i definitely

recommend watching it it's it's fun to see and you know tim and he and tim cook's talking as well and

Tim Cook, as usual, doesn't, you know, he's not going to say very much, but he's going to say a few interesting, feel interesting things.

I think some of my favorite parts is at the very end here where the journalist, Ben, brings out, he went into the archives of the Wall Street Journal, brought out some stories of when, first of all, the first mention of the Apple, of Apple Computer, which was like 1976, right, of the Wall Street Journal.

Yeah, here it is.

And then this was my favorite.

He's like, here's a story of Apple appoints Cook of Compaq to key post in signed jobs may stay.

And so that's the actual story, I think, from 98, right?

That's when Tim Cook came on, on Word at Apple.

And I just my favorite part is Ben, the journalist, then says Tim Cook was not available for comment at the time of this of this story.

But he goes, thank you, Tim Cook, for being available now.

You know, it's just so cool.

And then Tim was laughing.

He goes, I need a copy of that.

that was just really cool to like walk down i just thought the journalist here i forget his name ben

yeah ben going i think it's been going he just does a really good job he's just got a good natural

feel with with tim i i was gonna like i was gonna watch this and jump around you know different

parts of the video but ended up watching the entire thing because it was just it was so good

uh on there and there were several others you had another link to i think this is is this yeah

Yeah, this is interesting.

Yeah, this is a great one.

Tim Cook still believes in crazy ideas.

I thought I didn't read all the way through this one here, but it was good to get this perspective on there.

So before you jump off the Aspire story, the most interesting thing there is, you know,

if there's one thing that people criticize Apple about today as we're being happy about its 50th anniversary is, you know,

a lot of people are upset with the level of engagement that Tim Cook has had with the Trump administration, you know, famously when he gave him that gold plaque.

I mean, it's just so clearly pandering and stuff.

And I give the Esquire reporter some credit because he got Tim Cook to open up a little

bit about that, which is something that he doesn't talk about really at all.

And he I mean, again, you can agree or disagree with him, but it was the best explanation that

I have seen of why he does that.

And he pointed it's not just the US administration.

It could be other companies as well, other countries as well.

But, you know, he's you know, he gave the passionate speech that we believe in engagement.

He's like and, you know, the one thing is and of course he was he was I'm going to be more direct than Tim Cook was and what he said.

But what Tim Cook was essentially saying is, look, I have this opportunity.

The Trump administration, for whatever reason, wants to talk to me.

And so I have an opportunity to to be a part of making policy and, you know, making our positions known.

And they're not going to always do what I agree with.

But and I do personally agree with this, too, is that I know that he has a lot of criticism, but it's better, I think, to engage and have a seat at the table and at least have the opportunity to make your viewpoints on things like privacy and what is right in the world.

And it doesn't mean that whoever you're talking to, whether you're talking about the leader of China or America or you name it, it doesn't mean that they're going to agree with you, of course.

And I know that it's going to make people, you know, upset that, you know, someone like Tim Cook, who is, you know, perhaps one of the most, you know, prominent gay men in the world to be engaging with an administration that has policies that are at against that.

But at the same time, on the things where they can find common ground, his point was, let me at least use the opportunity to try to make change.

And this is an issue.

I mean, it gets into politics and stuff like that is at what point do you just say, I'm not going to be a part of this at all?

And in what part he's like, well, the system is the system.

Let's at least try to steer things to the better to the extent that we can.

So, again, whether you agree or disagree with that, everybody has a right to their own opinion on that.

But it was I've never seen him be so open in describing and justifying the approach that he has taken.

And at some point, as we've talked about in the past, I'm sure Tim Cook will retire.

That was addressed a little bit in here and in the Ben Cohen interview a little bit.

And, you know, Tim Cook's been very tight lipped on that.

But, you know, maybe it'll be in calendar year 2026.

Maybe it'll be in calendar year 2027.

Whenever Happel has a new leader, I presume it'll be John Ternus.

They may take a different approach to these things.

But this is the approach that they have now.

And so it was interesting to hear his explanation of that.

A few other things.

I'll make sure I link in the show notes.

Tim Cook wrote an internal memo that became external, as most of these things do.

As he knew he would, yes.

As he knew that it would.

Just to all of the employees at Apple marking the 50th anniversary, I felt like that this was par for the course here.

Just like, hey, we're looking forward to the next 50 years, which I just I just thought was was good.

Another interview of Chris Espinoza, who has been the an employee at Apple for all the 50 years.

We talked a little bit about this a couple of weeks ago. Right.

David Pogue, I think, was interviewing. He interviewed him, too.

Yeah. Yeah. The Computer History Museum or so.

Anyway, just this I thought this was really neat.

And the New York Times, just a little bit more of a background on Chris Espinoza.

you know, just kind of seeing where things went.

I mean, I love the story.

I remember, like, I think he met Waz at the,

it's like the Bay Area Hackers, you know,

computer club or something like that.

And he was 14 and rode his moped into Apple computer

to work for the day.

I just thought that that was good.

I loved talking about that.

On the Chris Espinoza story, I'll just say,

what's interesting to me is he, I mean,

he's the only person that's been there the entire 50 years.

And, you know, although you could argue

that I think technically Steve Wozniak still claims

that he gets health insurance through Apple.

So you can make it hard with that.

But in terms of somebody actually working at the company,

he has literally worked there for 50 years.

And I'm glad that he has had a chance

to have his moment in the sun over the last week.

Me too, me too.

And what was revealed in,

I know in other places,

but including this New York Times article,

you just scrolled past it.

I think it says in the first paragraph,

of all the jobs that he has,

his current position is he works on the Apple TV team,

which I just thought was interesting

because part of me thinks like

someone who has that much history with the company, wouldn't they be involved in like the company's

most important product, the iPhone or something like that? Because as much as I love my Apple TV,

nobody would argue that it's anywhere near the top most important product for Apple. I mean,

it's a great product. I use it. I wish it could be better. But I just thought that that was

interesting of all the places. I mean, it was almost like saying, you know, he, and he's the

guy that picks the menus at the cafeteria. I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, what,

Why isn't he doing something more?

But again, the flip side is I'm sure he can do whatever he wants at the company.

Whatever he wants.

He even has funny stories about years ago when Apple was doing cutbacks.

They wanted to fire everybody, including him.

But he's like, he had been here so long that his severance package would be too long.

He's like, they couldn't afford to fire me.

So he got to stay there because of that.

So anyway, he's a colorful character.

I follow him on Mastodon and social media.

He's very funny.

And anyway, so it's a fun article in the New York Times.

The last thing quickly, I think I was just going to mention maybe the between jobs.

I thought what a great title.

First of all, Jason Snell at Six Colors.

But he actually this full story was posted on The Verge, right?

Right.

I did.

Again, I didn't I wasn't able to read all of this through, but just another great little insight.

I mean, Jason Snell speaking about having his time in the sun.

I think it's great that Jason, you know, the longest he as long as he's been writing.

about Apple and Macintoshes and technology in general.

I thought this was just a great little overview of, you know, that period in between Steve

Jobs.

Steve Jobs did so much for the company at the end.

And of course, as a founder.

So people, you know, some people have rose colored glasses.

But the reality was that when in the early 1980s, as these stories have come out, you

know, Steve was problematic.

He was undisciplined.

He was, you know, he was brilliant.

But I can totally understand why the board of directors would say we need some more supervision and Steve's got to go.

I mean, and in fact, I think it was the best thing that ever happened for the company because once he started Next Computer, he learned a lot about management.

And, you know, there's no question that the 2.0 version of Steve Jobs when he came back to the company in the late 90s was infinitely better because the time that he had spent away from the company.

So thank goodness.

But as a result of that story, many people just sort of look at that period of time between when Steve Jobs left in the 80s and when he returned in the late 90s as being just sort of a desolate time for Apple.

And they're not wrong.

I mean, it is certainly true that Apple looked like it had lost its way.

The Macintosh was doing okay, but it wasn't.

That was such a tiny, tiny market share.

And they knew that they needed a more modern operating system that could allow true multitasking without crashing the system.

And they tried to do something with IBM and it went nowhere.

And, you know, say what you will, there were some smart decisions made during that time

period, not just things like the creation of the PowerBook, which was so important because

of the laptop industry that Apple spawned, but also because of some of the decisions made

during that time period.

And we talked about some of these last week.

So the Jason article is good because it's like there were some really important things

at Apple that did take place between the two Steve Jobs that are an important part of the

story.

And Apple would not be here today, but for those things.

Having said that, thank goodness that Steve Jobs came back to the company, you know, brought it back from the brink of bankruptcy, brought all of the discipline, focused on its products, focused on, you know, some good successful ad campaigns like Think Different, you know, came up with, you know, was part of the team that came up with the iPod, part of the team that came up with the iPhone, the iPad, everything else.

Just, you know, amazing.

You know, this isn't anything new, but just hearing you talking about this, and you've alluded to it a couple of times already, just going back over the history, it's not, you know, obviously, everyone knows listening that we're Apple fans, and we appreciate what the company has brought from the technology side.

But you just see it dribbling out to every other little corner of technology over the years, too, Jeff, just like you're even saying.

I mean, just the idea of like a touchscreen, right?

I mean, I think in that video from the Wall Street Journal with Ben, it's like what were we using before an iPhone?

We didn't even have a touchscreen.

We had these very clunky phones.

I mean, a touchscreen would have been, you know, very clunky at best on some of those old mobile devices and just having something come along that was so new and refreshing.

You know, we just wouldn't we can't even imagine a world without a touchscreen the way that it is today.

And then there's just so many other areas.

And in fact, even into like the services area now today that we're, that we have, you know, so much available.

And again, Apple is never normally one to the, to the first, to the starting line of a lot of this stuff, but they take it, they take a good idea and they continue to improve upon it to, to the point where they become the best at it.

So often time after time, I mean, from, from that, that first disk drive idea that they turned into something that was affordable to so many things, you know, we've, you know,

There were MP3 players.

There were smartphones before the iPhone.

Think of the examples.

There were computers before the Apple II.

There was a GUI interface before the Macintosh.

But for all of these things, they figured out the way to make it work and to make it click.

And that's the difference between an interesting idea and something that changes the world.

All right.

Last little thing.

I'll make sure we post in the show notes.

Tim Cook posted a Rewind video.

Is this what it was called?

The Rewind?

And so literally, I think other people, and I'll make sure I have a post in there too.

If you listen to it in reverse, it has the song of Think Different or the tune of Think Different, right?

I mean, that was pretty cute.

Somebody had a lot of fun making that, I believe.

Yeah.

And did you see the Apple website on April 1st or one of the videos of it?

No, I did not.

Yeah, there's a link to it in the – John Gruber had a link to it that showed it.

It was actually very cute.

Yeah.

When he says the video file is hosted here, I don't know if you click on that, if it still

works at some point, they're going to take that down.

Oh, there it is.

It's the Apple rainbow.

And this, when you went to the Apple homepage on April 1st, this is what you saw.

Oh, this is what they had.

Okay.

And it was, it's cute because it's got like all these sort of, you know, line drawing,

like the original Macintosh, but some of that same artistic style for all.

And it's fun going through the products over the years, you know, oh, that's an iMac.

Oh, that's an iPod.

Oh, that's a vision pro.

That's a laptop.

Right.

It was a very cute animation.

And I think they only ran it for the one day, but it was it was fun.

Very nice.

All right.

So I think it would be a little too cliche to say, well, let's look for the next 50 years.

But there's a couple of other stories.

I knew we were going to spend a lot of time on kind of reminiscing with the 50 years.

But truly looking to the next 50 years, you and I've been talking about this for a lot.

I mean, I think about health care with the Apple Watch and I think about credit card services with the Apple credit card.

One of the things that I've been saying for a long time now is satellite services.

It amazes me, first of all, that Apple has not completely purchased a satellite company because then I saw this.

Like they do have a large stake, a 20% stake in Global Star, right?

So the satellite, so they, you know, put their money where their mouth is.

And the idea like we want to invest in this because we've been talking now about text messaging over satellite or GPS.

And the number of times that it has saved numerous lives almost now and the fact that it has this capability today.

And I'm like, let's go there.

Like I'm ready to kind of, you know, lessen our reliance on cell phone towers if we have these satellites that can handle more and more of this type of traffic.

Well, this was a little weird when I saw this then.

Now Amazon wants to potentially purchase Global Star.

And so I think you point out in your post today, this is going to almost kind of pit Amazon against Apple because if Amazon takes a full, you know, ownership stake in Global Star, does that mean they're going to push Apple out?

Do they have to find somebody else?

You know, there's not like a whole lot of satellite communication companies available out there.

But this will be interesting to watch.

Yeah.

SpaceX, Elon Musk's company has Starlink, right?

And the Starlink, you know, there are many people that if you're in a part of the world where Starlink satellite service is available, it is the it's the it's the one and only best.

And not only the best, it's the one and only way to get Internet service is through these Starlink things.

And so it's really interesting.

And they have so many of those satellites up there.

I don't even know what the number is.

Tons of them.

And because of SpaceX's capability to reuse its rockets and get stuff up there, that they are by far the market leader.

Amazon does have some.

They have a smaller number of satellites up there, but they can't really compete directly

right now.

And so if they wanted to be a true competitor to Starlink, they knew that they were going

to have to partner with somebody.

And there's not a lot of people in this field.

So when Apple first looked at it, in fact, Apple looked, when Apple decided to put the

satellite feature into the iPhone, and it's also available in some models of the Apple

Watch too, they did talk to Starlink.

And but ultimately they went with Globalstar, which is actually a company.

It's right outside of New Orleans here.

It's in Covington, Louisiana, just the other side of Lake Pontchartrain from where I live.

And so they they have this company.

And at first, Apple just partnered with them.

And then two years later, Apple decided to buy a 20 percent interest in the company, which is interesting because clearly Apple had the money that if they wanted to buy it, they could have just bought it.

But I guess that they decided that would be better to have, you know, the company be independent for all the various reasons.

And yet by having a 20% ownership interest, and I'm sure that that comes with some other things too, they could ensure that the company continues to work with Apple.

And I guess it also gave them some protection against what if somebody like Amazon were to come in and just acquire GlobalStar.

You wouldn't want Amazon to say, okay, now we own GlobalStar.

And if Apple wants to continue to provide this service, we're going to now increase the price 100 fold over or something like that.

Or not continue to develop it the way that Apple wants it.

And so there are some interesting negotiations taking place now between Amazon and Apple

that they're going to obviously have a say in whether it takes place.

It is interesting.

The satellite stuff, it doesn't work all the time because obviously you have to have a line

of sight to the sky.

So if you're inside, if you're in a building, you still need your cell phone connection.

It's the same problem that some of these forms of 5G that are incredibly fast, but they only

work if you're sort of in the direct line of sight.

They're not going to work if you're inside of a house where there's interference or something like that.

There's all these interesting technologies that are clearly futuristic, and some of these will hit in the future.

But I like the idea that the satellite's out there.

I mean, you've used it before.

Not that you used it in an emergency, but you tested it when you were hiking one day, and it worked.

I was.

I know it worked because you and I were able to text back and forth.

I was texting you.

You could not have been more off the grid.

And yet, if I had an urgent message to you like, how are you doing?

I could still let you know.

I could give you that message.

um so it's very interesting i i if nothing else i like knowing that it's there and to me like this

is the future of where eventually it's going to be going i mean frankly you know you mentioned about

uh starlink uh it's not just you know for people that are on on the actual on mother earth here

um a lot of airlines are now incorporating starlink as like the preferred way for wi-fi

and i've used it twice now on a united flight because they're getting ready to to put in that

in their whole fleet. Jeff, it's amazing. I mean, again, now you could argue when you're higher up,

you know, you're 30,000 feet up. So you theoretically you're closest to the satellites

or whatever, but it was just incredible how fast I could stream things and access things because,

you know, we've all been frustrated with wifi on planes today. And again, I know that that's going

to the future as well. So just having this capability when you are out, when you're around

or having the option to go to a satellite, to me, it's just, it's a no brainer. Like this,

This should be going down this path.

It is going down this path.

In fact, this story even mentioned, you didn't know how many satellites Amazon has.

They have 180 satellites in orbit right now through its own satellite internet program known as LEO.

But that figure is dwarfed by SpaceX's fleet of over 10,000 active satellites.

I would not have guessed that many.

10,000?

That's a lot of space junk up there.

That's a little crazy.

But to me, these are the things like these truly are the next horizon kind of stories to be watching here as we go, because this is going to be the future and certainly a way that we'll rely on it, I think, from the standpoint of communication.

Well, let's stay in space.

Another story that you link to is hopefully everybody has witnessed the amazing Artemis 2 space mission that was launched, what, I think two days ago now.

so they're two days into a 10 or 12 day um uh mission where you know speaking of 50 years right

i think it's been 50 years since humans have been this close to the moon they're going to order

around the moon that's right to land on the moon but they're going to come back around um talking

about technology that has evolved you know the technology they have today is dwarfed with the

technology they had in the apollo days including apparently there have been several sightings of

the astronauts using iphone 17s iphone 17 pros uh both apparently on the ground before they launched

and maybe i think during maybe there's been one or two sightings uh in the in the capsule uh the only

sad thing about this apparently it's the silver version and why why would they not have used the

cosmic orange version of the iphone 17 if you're gonna have it in space i mean go all the way

yeah or but you know maybe space gray i don't know would be appropriate but okay i'll take that too

uh nasa had announced last year that they were going to allow astronauts to have their personal

phones with them uh and they didn't specify a type of phone because they're not going to take a brand

uh you know but we all knew that that meant there were going to be iphones in space and i'm sure

enough there are and i love that because you know hopefully there's lots of fun selfie pictures and

other pictures and take some videos and stuff like that it'll be fun to see some of the behind the

stuff as that starts to uh there's floating about there's an iphone floating right there and sure

enough it is the silver version come on guys i guess you don't need a case right because you

don't have to worry about dropping your iphone if you're in zero grade that's good jeff i like that

that's good that's good zero gravity iphones that's really cool so that'll be fun to see some

of that stuff there's another space story that interested me which was that they had some of the

of the Blackmagic CineUrsa cameras,

which witnessing the launch of the Artemis spacecraft,

you know, watching a space, you know,

any rocket take off is always a dramatic thing.

And it was apparently recorded in special videos.

So I don't know when that will be out,

but I look forward to putting on my Vision Pro

and re-experiencing it as if I were there.

I've never seen a rocket launch before,

but it's one of those bucket list items

that I've always thought would be really interesting to see

because people say it's just an incredible experience.

So if I can't do it in real life, maybe with my Vision Pro, I'll get a chance to do the next best thing.

I don't have the story pulled up here, but I saw several headlines to where at some point, apparently the astronauts were apparently communicating with, you know, mission control.

And they said, I've got two versions of Outlook and neither of them work.

Microsoft Outlook.

So I don't know why. First of all, it makes me scared that the astronauts in space are having the same problems that, you know, people sitting in there on their butts in offices on the ground are having.

But it also makes me laugh that they're having. I mean, come on, Microsoft. Let's let's get Outlook working, not just on Earth, but in space as well. That would be very helpful.

Exactly.

Okay, quickly, we talked about this, I think, last week, but now we're starting to see some of the reviews of the new AirPods Max 2.

And I like this.

I think this is the other one from Chance Miller.

Yeah, I like this one from Chance Miller because he was saying he's been using it.

He's been using the original AirPods Max for many, many years, almost nonstop since they first came out.

Nothing changed on the physical aspect of it.

Everything was sort of more internal improvements.

Yeah.

I mean, the best thing that you could say about the reviews is that they all say it works great because I know that AirPods Max, because of their price, are not, you know, very popular.

We go from the Vision Pros to the AirPods Max to, you know, very nice product Apple makes, but that they're so expensive that very few people buy them.

But if you do want that over-the-ear approach, it's nice that the AirPods Max now have feature parity with the AirPods Pros that I use right now.

And so it's nice that they have all the good features.

And, I mean, the reviews have really been positive.

I have read a bunch of the reviews.

I linked to at least two of them.

And everybody has said, you know, it does what you would want it to do.

It sounds great.

It works great.

It has all the features.

So if this is the form factor that you want, it's a good product.

And again, you can buy also good products from other companies for cheaper if you want.

And they're not going to have the fit and finish and everything else of the Apple products.

But you can just decide where you want to put it.

But, you know, if you decide that this is something you want to buy, it used to be because the AirPods Max had not been updated.

I felt bad about it.

It's like, yeah, I almost feel bad for somebody that buys them because you're not getting those same cool features that you have in the AirPods Pro.

But now you don't have the reservations anymore.

I mean, the only reservation is the price,

but anyone can make that decision.

They can see what the price is

and they can decide for themselves

whether it's worth it for them.

There's no risk of somebody buying it

and then getting home and like,

oh, I didn't realize it's not gonna have X, Y, Z

that other products.

And now it has the X and the Y and the Z.

So that was nice to see from the reviews this week.

I still have a reservation about these.

I would have gotten these,

except for the fact that they're just so big.

I mean, even Chance Miller says it here somewhere.

He's like, and there's cases, there's scenarios where the AirPods Max are the sole thing making my backpack too big to fit under the seat in front of me.

And it's like, I can't stand that when I travel.

That's why I love the AirPods Pro for multiple reasons.

But then we talked about this last time as well.

You know, he says, I'm looking forward to trying my AirPods Max 2 on my next flight because I've always felt the original version doesn't do a very good job blocking out the constant hum of the plane engine.

And that's exactly what I use my AirPods Pro for is to block that out.

And to your point that you just mentioned, you know, if I had purchased the original AirPods Max and compared them to the AirPods Pro, I would be like, well, the AirPods Pro are much better.

Like I want all of that, you know, active noise cancellation.

And to your point, again, now you can get it right.

Like, so you have the AirPods Max 2, which I think that that's great.

So good to see some of those reviews are coming out.

Sort of reminds me, as you're talking about using them on a plane and stuff like that,

when I was flying back from Tech Show from Chicago to New Orleans last week, I had my

Vision Pro with me because I had been doing a presentation at Tech Show about it.

Right.

And so since I had it, I decided that on one of my plane flights, you know, I'm just sort

of sitting there.

I was like, you know what?

I got my Vision Pro.

I'm going to put it on on the plane.

And there was a video that came out last week while we were at Tech Show from Apple.

It's called Debut at the BBC Proms.

I did not know of this, but apparently there's something called the Proms in England that

the BBC Symphony. And it was an incredible immersive video where you had a guy named,

what was his name? Ed Verge Grieg, Piano Concerto in A Minor, which I did. You just found it. Yeah.

Which was a song that I didn't know I knowed it, but it's one of those, there are parts of it that

you're like, oh, I know that classical song. You definitely know it. But I am not like the biggest

classical music fan in the world. If somebody said, do you want to go to like an opera house

or a theater and see a Glasgow performance,

like I might go,

but it's not something I would go out of the way for.

I will tell you, Brett,

when I was, the camera angles are so amazing.

Like they had one of those Black Mammoth cameras

that was right next to him.

So as someone who plays piano,

I could totally see like how incredibly he was,

but it wasn't just him.

It was the whole orchestra behind him.

And there were multiple camera angles

like where you're behind it and you're next to it.

It's like, I could have never in a million years,

no amount of money I could have paid

would have given me that access

classical music concert and it was enthralling so i'm sitting there on the plane i have my my my

apple airpods pro in my ears i'm wearing my vision pro and i might have been in a stuffy cabin on a

pain plane with somebody sitting close next to me but like i was transformed to another world

it was absolutely amazing i mean again i'm not a fan of classical music and yet i was spellbound

by the performance it was just incredible which was just it was just amazing so um but again whether

Whether you're doing immersive video with the Vision Pro or you're just, you know, canceling the noise of the airplane, you know, AirPods Pros are so fantastic on an airplane.

When we travel, we most of the time will cross some time zones.

And I've always thought about this, especially when I go maybe to California, for example, and there are three years, three hours be ahead of me.

Then when I land and I open my computer, a lot of times my Mac calendar typically will say, hey, we see that you're in a different time zone because it's connected to the internet or whatever.

Do you want to change your time zone on your calendar?

Because that's extremely helpful.

I find that my iPhone almost does that for me automatically.

It doesn't ask me.

But my Mac, when I open it up, will say, do you want to change the time zone?

Now, the way I do it is I have a drop down at the very top.

You can go in and set that in settings.

So I can say, because sometimes I might need to make a call with somebody back on Eastern

time.

So I want to make sure I get their correct time.

Anyway, the time zone is going to be frustrated.

But I got to tell you, I had never thought about changing time zones from this angle that

Glenn Fleischman wrote about.

What about the medications feature in your iPhone health app, especially when it needs

to remind you to take your medications?

Good tips here.

yeah it is good tip i i like the fact that the health app will remind you to take medications

it's especially useful you know either you don't want to forget to take medications you take daily

or if there's a medicine that you don't take every day you may you may forget you know is this the day

i do take it or don't take it so it's a great feature it had never occurred to me that apple

doesn't according to glenn they don't necessarily have the best system for accounting for time zone

changes they will give you a warning um but it may not do what you want it to do so like if you for

example, I want to always take this medication at eight o'clock in the morning, nowhere you are,

regardless of whether eight o'clock is Pacific time or Eastern time that I don't think, I don't

think that's how the app works by default. So you might just need to be conscious of it. So

if you're someone that's going to be changing, or certainly if you're going to Europe or something

like that, where you have, or any other part of the world where you have multiple, multiple,

multiple time zone changes, right? Think about that because if you rely upon the health app to

help you remember to take your medication, you're just going to want to be on top of it and make

sure that it's doing what you want it to do. He says, I had the opposite problem. He was traveling

west to east the other week, and he experienced what he calls the failure of negative knowledge.

He was not alerted about the time zone change and wound up missing a dose of meds. So he does say

most of the time it works or it's worked for him when he's flown from different time zones. But in

this one time, it didn't work and he forgot it. He didn't remember until he was getting ready. I

just remember, wait a minute, I didn't take my medications. And you know, that nothing to me

starts to insert doubt into a system, if it like messes up something like that. So anyway,

just a good read from Glenn Fleischman to keep that in mind if it's something that you do rely on

there. In the know, in the couple of I got a really quick tip here. You know, we talked about

Apple for the next 50 years, I mentioned the satellite idea. I am completely convinced that

that's going to be a future. Another area is health. We've talked about this many, many times.

I am convinced that Apple is going to continue to push into the health aspects, especially with the

Apple Watch. I mean, today, even the AirPods Pro can, doesn't it like measure your heartbeat? Like

there is a way that that can do that as well. We just talked about the health, the iPhone

medications component. Another area that I still believe they are going to push into is the

financial aspect. You know, several years ago, it's been quite a number of years now, the Apple

credit card was released into big fanfares. Titanium, it's beautiful, but I don't even use

a physical card. I think you have one as well. I just use it within my Apple wallet, whether it's

on my Mac or my iPhone, and I love the way that it works. But one of the things, if you open it up

in your Apple wallet is that you'll see instead of it being this pristine white card that in times

when you start putting charges on it, it will change colors. And it's a lovely little color

change here. You know, I'd never seen anything like this in the financial world, right? You have

a credit card. It's typically a physical credit card. It just stays one color. I mean, the biggest

improvement that I've seen with credit cards on the market today is that, ooh, you can get a mirrored

finish right on a physical credit card. Okay, big whoop. But the way that Apple handles their own

credit card in the Apple wallet is that it would change color. Now, I'm going to go through these

color categories here, which I think are pretty interesting. But I never remember what all of

these mean. If you see a red swash on there, that's for a health related expense. Now, you know,

how do they determine each of these? It's kind of up in the air about how they do it. If it's orange,

it's food and drink. Yellow is the one that I typically see because I have a lot of my

Apple monthly installations going on my credit card. And so I have mostly yellow because that

is shopping. So right now I've got mostly yellow, probably about 75% yellow. The other one that I

have is purple quite a bit because that is services. In fact, I think my Fantastical,

yeah. Okay. You got yours going to look at you. I got lots of purple on mine. You got lots of

purple on yours my purple is typically because of apple one and you too i'm sure right the apple one

subscription and then um i just renewed the fantastical subscription for my family so that's

another service that goes on there other colors include green for travel blue for transportation

and pink for entertainment i got some pink in mine too yep you can look this up and google it i mean

i don't ever remember typically what all of these colors are but it's just been interesting to me

that from a visual perspective, you know, because if you scroll through your Apple wallet and scroll

up and down, you don't actually see the numbers. You don't see the charges. You can just see the

color on the card there. But I do kind of like that visual representation to kind of give you a

general idea of what are the biggest categories that you're doing some spending on, on there.

And frankly, I don't know if there's, if that means anything else, it's just kind of neat that

it has the colors there. It's kind of neat to understand what that can mean. Otherwise,

I will tell you the other thing that I do enjoy about it is that when I pay the credit card off

completely, you can see that the colors just kind of smear back into a pristine white credit card.

So it gives you a little bit of satisfaction from that aspect. So that's my tip for the day.

I've actually never seen that before where all the colors go away. I guess it's because I use my

Apple card too much because I didn't realize it ever goes back to white. But I did know that the

that the colors corresponded to the types of purchases you were making.

Right.

But I have to admit until you just showed me that list,

I actually had never looked at what they were and it doesn't surprise me.

I mean, obviously the reason I have a lot of purple and a lot of pink and some

yellow is because that's what I do.

I don't think I've ever seen a dark red on there because I guess I don't use my

Apple card when I, you know, pay for the hospital or something like that.

So I use my American express card for that.

So I guess that's why I don't see red.

But, uh, uh, by the way,

Another quick one is that if you tap on the three dots in the very top there, they now have a little section called rewards and offers.

And if you tap in there, it'll show you what other special offers.

For example, right now, I think typically they give you 3% back at any Walgreens.

And this is why I'm thinking about it, because I wonder if you have a purchase at Walgreens, it may turn red.

But right now, at least on mine, you can get a 5% daily cash back at Walgreens.

And it tells you you've got one month and 16 days remaining on there.

The other one that I have is you can, if you do a referral to a friend, you can earn $75

in cash and your friend gets $75 in daily cash too, which is really great, by the way.

That's a great little referral thing.

But anyway, that's in the rewards and offers.

So when you mentioned the red for the health, I wonder if Walgreens would count for that.

I don't know.

I typically would think for like hospital bills, that kind of a thing on there that that would

show up.

Exactly.

Hey, Brett, can I interest you in an Apple card?

i'm trying to hey if anybody out there wants you know you can either go to jeff or go to me we'll

be happy to give you a referral to your apple card what would it take for me to put you in an apple

card today what would it take good tip i appreciate knowing what those colors mean uh my tip today is

you were talking earlier about the pogue feature about the screenshots yeah and um the one reminder

I wanted to let people know, or if you don't know about it, is full page screenshots. And the reason

for this is, as you know, normally we take a screenshot. It's just what's on the screen at

that time. However, if you are in the Safari web browser, and I think that other apps might support

this too, but the only time I ever use it is in Safari. If you have something that you would scroll

through multiple screens, when you take, when you press the buttons on the side of your phone to take

the screenshot, there is an option. If you're, if Safari is the active window to, instead of taking

a full page screenshot to do, I'm sort of taking a regular screenshot to do a screenshot of the

full page, which includes the content that goes past the length of your iPhone screen.

And the reason that I will typically do that is let's say I want to send an article to someone

that's on the internet. And let's say it is, for example, a news service that I pay for,

but I don't know if they would pay for, maybe it's the New York times. Maybe it is the, um,

you know, the, something else, the verge, which is something that I pay for. Maybe it is, um,

a local business publication. And, you know, some things like the New York Times allow you to do

gifts, you know, a gift link, which I will, I would, I try to do an iPhone JD when I can,

but you know, it's sometimes I just want them to have the article and I don't want to have the

nonsense. Many times I will see an article on something in the news that has to do with like

one of my cases that I'm working on and I won't, I want my client to see it. And so, but I just

want to give it completely hassle free for them. And so what I'll do is I'll do this feature where

I take on my iPhone or my iPad, the screenshot, then I use the full page feature.

And then there's little crop things.

And so you can crop out the ads.

You can, if it's a really long article, sometimes at the bottom of like a news article, there'll

be like ads at the bottom or the footer or stuff like that.

They don't matter.

And so I'll crop the story so that it's just the part of the story that I want.

And what it will create is this very, very narrow and long PDF document.

And it's not the most efficient.

So the size of those PDF documents can be a little bit longer, a little bit larger than

perhaps it should be.

In fact, now that I'm saying that out loud, I'm sure that I have tools on my iPhone and

iPad that would compress them a little bit.

I've never tried to do that.

But, you know, typically it's not a huge deal.

And then once I have that, I can email the article.

And that way I know that the person, whether it's a client or a friend, whoever I'm sending

it to, I know that they can read the article because it's just a PDF document.

And so anybody can read that on any device.

And so this is a nice reminder that, you know, maybe David Pogue himself did not ask for that feature.

But it was a nice addition to the Pogue feature that's been around for years.

I was using it last week at Tech Show because, you know, you're reading about things and I'm looking at articles and sending things to other people in my firm.

Although I just, you know, heard about this AI service.

And, you know, so there's lots of reasons that you might want to use it.

And it's a nice reminder that full page screenshots is a very helpful aspect of the screenshot function.

So you take a screenshot like you normally would.

And then when you go into that, there's now two tabs at the very top, right?

It says screenshot or full page.

If you tap on the full page, then it gives you this option, which is really, really neat on there.

You know, I had a couple of questions.

Number one, I just tried this.

What if I go into reader mode first before, because, you know, to your point about wanting to get rid of all of the, the ads and everything, if I go into reader mode and then try to take a screenshot there, it looks like it doesn't do the full page on the reader mode.

It'll still do a full page on the full page, which is fine because I mean, I just wanted to know, because a lot of times, just like you, I don't want to send all of the junk with the ads and everything.

I just want to send the content.

Right.

And so that's what sometimes I'll do that.

And then the second thing, this is so good because before this full page option, the way that I would do it is I would take a screenshot, scroll up, take another screenshot, scroll up.

And then in fact, I use, in fact, let me see if I can find it real quick.

I still have an app called Stitch It, the Stitch It app.

Let me see if this is it right here.

I thought they had, oh, here it is.

Yeah, yeah, here it is.

So I would do this.

In fact, I've even done this from a professional standpoint, Jeff.

A lot of times, you know, in litigation matters, we need to collect conversations that were happening in text messages or maybe WhatsApp or something like that.

And so, you know, if if and that's a pretty big if if screenshots are adequate for that scenario, then I would tell them go do these screenshots because, you know, your tip only works.

It looks like in Safari.

And so if you're trying to do full pages and other things, you can still do screenshot, scroll up, take another screenshot, scroll up, take another screenshot.

And then I've used apps like Stitch It here to do exactly what you were talking about, crop the little image a little bit.

In fact, even Stitch It allows you to redact some information out of there if you wanted to redact a phone number or something like that as well.

But I am thrilled.

I remember when Apple came out with this because it's been a few years now.

I forget what version of iOS that it came out.

But I just, I love the idea of doing the full page on there for like you, a lot of times I'll, I have a client or a customer that, that I want to send a story to or something.

And I just don't want them to have to go to the link.

And I just want to send it as the image, but it is a long image.

So you still have to scroll when you send it, but it is, it's, it's still such a great little tip on that.

As a reminder, the app that you recommended that can stitch together screenshots called Stitch It.

I have used that one in the past too.

I switched a number of years ago to an app called PICSO, P-I-C-S-E-W.

And I'm looking through the archives.

If you will recall, as I'm sure you do off the top of your head, Brett, that in our podcast

episode number 38 from February of 2022, that was my pick of the week back then is the PICSO

app.

Oh, that's right.

And you found it.

Okay.

That was over four years ago that I recommended it.

And I still use it from time to time.

Again, mainly like you say on text messages, but sometimes on other things too.

Sometimes I use it if I want to just put two photos together and stuff like that.

So Pixo is a nice app.

Stitch, it works well too.

I've used them both over the years.

Yeah, both of these are great.

Yeah.

I just sort of prefer Pixo and I see that you found an old review from six years ago from

tidbits on it, but there's lots of apps.

So a little, some bonus tips there.

Bonus tips.

And both of these are free.

I think you have some limitations on how many screenshots you can put in, but I mean, you

can see Pixo.

at least I don't know if it still is.

It's only $2 to upgrade to the pro version

and something similar like $3 to upgrade on Stitch It.

And I did that a long time ago

just because I like both of these apps.

And I just usually default to Stitch It.

But yeah, Pixo is another great one on there as well.

Good stuff.

Yeah, that turned into multiple bonus tips on there.

Next week, we're going to be off.

We'll have some vacation time.

I think it's spring break time for a lot of folks.

Spring break for me, yes.

Spring break for you.

I'm actually going to be out too.

I promise my wife that after tech show and everything, we're going to have a short little getaway.

So it'll be fun for next week for us.

But that means on Friday, April the 10th, we won't have a podcast episode, but we will be back the week after.

So we'll talk with you then, Jeff.

Thanks, Brett. Bye-bye, everybody.