Welcome to In The News for June 5th, 2026. I am Brett Burney from appsinlaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhone JD. Hello, Brett.

Jeff, we're just a few days away from a very important day for Apple.

Monday, June 8th is the official opening of WWDC, the Worldwide Developers Conference that Apple hosts every summer.

And to basically kick things off, I mean, neither one of us is going to be there in person, and there's a lot of other things that go on.

But on Monday, to kind of kick things off, there is a keynote address, and this will be presumably Tim Cook and a variety of other Apple executives and various faces and department heads, et cetera.

We always enjoy watching this because it gives us a, well, theoretically, it gives us a preview of what we can expect in the next iteration of the operating system.

Now, I got to tell you, Jeff, most of everything I've been hearing about is the excitement of what Apple is going to do with Siri and AI.

Would it be fair to say that I'm a little doubtful about what these announcements are going to be?

If it was anybody else other than Apple, I'd have strong doubts.

I still have fairly strong doubts, but I feel like Apple has been through the ringer on this for a couple of years now.

And I'm hoping that they've got some special surprises up their sleeve.

I think they learned their lesson from two years ago when they announced stuff that they could not ship.

And to be fair, a lot of the people who were involved at the highest level with AI at Apple are no longer working at the company.

So they have done some, you know, cleaning house.

So things it's it's it's a new world now.

So many things have changed.

Last year, Apple was much more reserved as a result of the 2024 experience.

I suppose I am choosing to be an optimist and I am hoping that they are going to blow it out.

And we're going to see some interesting AI stuff.

I really, really am.

The tagline, as you're showing right now, that Apple announced is,

all systems glow.

And they have the new wallpaper that's got the glowing Apple logo,

which has got to be a reference to the animation that Siri makes when you talk to Siri.

And I really think we are going to get a new version of Siri that does so much more because of AI.

But I don't think it's going to stop there.

I think we're going to see AI integrated throughout the system.

I just, I really think it's going to be a huge theme of it.

And I'm looking forward to it.

I'm especially looking forward to it.

I mean, I think about this all the time because in my legal world, everyone's talking about

AI.

I mean, you can't throw a stone at anything without hitting something about AI.

But so much of the AI stuff is still at a theoretical level.

But what excites me the most is the practical uses of AI.

And this is what Apple is good at.

You know, Apple, unlike Google, most notably, I mean, Google throws out technology for the sake of technology, which is fun.

Don't get me wrong.

Sometimes it's exciting.

But Apple has always been more about how is it useful?

You know, we're not just going to say here's 10 different ways to do this.

We're going to find that one use case and make it work really well.

They've got it in their DNA to do this.

They've got, you know, obviously the Google connection, considering that they had the deal that they reached last year with Google to use the Gemini model, AI model.

There's going to be it's going to be interesting to see how much stuff is done on device for privacy reasons, how much stuff is done in the cloud.

Of course, they have their private cloud compute.

There is just, you know, some of it's going to be seamless.

Apple is not going to tell us so many.

I have I guess I have questions every year because WWDC is full of surprises.

It sets the tone for the following 12 months of Apple announcements.

But I feel like I have more questions than normal right now.

And I'll go through some of them.

But one of them is just like this AI relationship.

Do you think that they're going to even talk about Google slash Gemini, or are they just

going to talk about what it can do without even really acknowledging the foundation model

and the fact that they're working with Google?

I'm sure they're not thrilled about the fact that their efforts to develop in-house AI

apparently did not go as planned.

And so they had to team up with Google.

On the other hand, you know, the Google Gemini may need something.

Go ahead.

They're already teaming up with OpenAI too, right?

I mean, Siri, if you can't get an answer from Siri, you still have the option to ask ChatGPT.

Now, that may not be as tight of a partnership there.

But yes, I mean, it's such a kind of a mishmash right now of how it works with AI.

And so just exactly what you're talking about, though, surely they have to address something with Google Gemini.

And they made that announcement just a few months ago.

Yeah, and in fact, just to close the circle, the three big AI engines are Google Gemini, OpenAI, as you said, their ChatGPT, and then Claude Anthropic.

I mean, you make a good point that they historically two years ago announced that relationship with OpenAI.

And of course, there was something in the news a couple of weeks ago that OpenAI was upset that they weren't getting as much prominence through the Apple relationship as they had hoped for.

You know, too bad, so sad.

We know they have something with Google Gemini.

And we also know that we hear that so many Apple programmers use Claude to do programming.

And so Apple has relationships with all of them.

And I guess that's, you know, I guess I could see either way, maybe because this is a developer conference.

So these are like the super, this is not the introduction of the new iPhone where the main target audience is just sort of the masses.

This is a more technical audience.

And so for that reason, I could see why they might talk about, you know, specific vendors, the three that we just talked about.

you know would they even go far as to talk at specific models you know people are always talking

about you know this model and that model of or is it going to be more of the traditional apple of

like this is all behind the scenes we're not going to show you how you know everything's made this is

just the end result here's practical things that you can do I'm fascinating that that that is that

is one of many questions I have about about how they do it and then even if AI is going to be a

lot more powerful, just to take Siri, for example, you know, how far will it go? Because we all know

the problem with AI is that you get into hallucinations and it's always, you know, you need

the appropriate guardrails and stuff like that. Apple, if my sense is that when you weigh the

cool things that AI can do versus the problems of hallucinations, I think that many companies out

there are more likely to sort of let all things, you know, just let anything happen because the

cool things are so cool that we don't care about the hallucinations.

But I think that Apple will be more cautious about that.

I think that Apple is going to be more worried about end users and getting wrong answers from

Siri.

And but then that's the problem is, is if you guard against the hallucinations too much,

and of course you need to do so, is it going to take away from some of the whiz bang new

features?

It is a very interesting, you know, threading the needle on that's going to be very interesting.

And I'm really curious to see, number one, what Apple is going to do, but number two,

how they're going to announce it on Monday,

because this is the big question.

And you know that they've got very smart people thinking about how do we guide

this? How do we use it? I really, I do not know.

This is what it's like.

I feel like I have so many question marks in my head about this.

I guess because I mean, you are, you're, you're being a great optimist.

Maybe I'm just on the leaning toward the pessimist side,

because I don't see how they can come out smelling good from this.

Like whatever they do, I don't think it's going to be enough

because of what happened a couple of years ago,

because of the fact that it's such a mishmash right now

with how they're utilizing AI.

And I like this article you linked to in Engadget here

where they're talking about what I think what most people want

is exactly what they mentioned here, the chat botification of Siri.

I mean, we really just want it to be, because that's what I do now when I go to open AR,

chat, GPT, or cloud.

I just, I have it.

I have actually a widget on my iPhone lock screen.

Like that's what I want.

I want to be able to ask you questions.

But the fact that I, what I wanted was two years ago was to be able to ask questions,

but also access from a private secure standpoint, what's on my calendar or what is on my task

list.

In fact, I will tell you, just share with you that my wife has been experimenting with Claude to where it is sort of like a personal assistant.

She's given it access to her Google calendar and she's given it access to her to-do list.

And it seemed like there may be a contact list or so.

And she just likes being able to say, okay, what do I need to do?

Like, how can I do this?

Can we move this over here to this next day?

And she, I mean, it's taken some blood, sweat, and tears, but she's basically utilized it that way.

but that is beside Siri has nothing to do with Siri.

She's just interacting with Claude, for example, in that.

Yeah. It's going to be really, really interesting to see how they do that.

So we, I mean, I think everybody expects AI in some form,

whether it's, it's, it's a, a less exciting version as you're predicting could be,

or maybe they push the envelope a little bit further, but one way or the other,

I think AI is going to have to be an emphasis on Monday.

And so then the question is, you know,

so many other questions about what will be, I mean,

Every year for WWDC, we always ask, is there going to be new hardware?

I personally think probably not this year because I think they're going to be spending the time on software and AI.

But, you know, just this week I heard, you know, John Gruber during Fireball saying that he thinks that they will announce,

you know, the most obvious hardware announcement would be something that works particularly well for developers,

which would be an M5, the latest processor, an M5 version of the Mac Mini,

because that's what developers use a whole lot.

The problem is that memory is so expensive in the world right now.

And, you know, right now

Because of AI.

Because of AI, exactly, ironically.

You know, will Apple acknowledge the fact that so many people are buying Mac Minis,

you know, hand over fist to use them to process AI?

Will they announce a new version that's going to do an even better job with AI?

It's an open question.

I think if they were to announce hardware, I think that's the only thing that they would

announce would be a new Mac mini or Mac studio, like the higher end version of it. Um, but I,

I still think that they probably don't, that's my guess, but again, it's a big question mark.

Um, and you know, if ever there was a time that they would announce hardware, this, this would

make us, this would make sense given it would, it would work hand in hand with the AI announcement

because the way that the Macs are used for AI. Um, so that, that's an exciting thing. I'm also

curious about what the focus is going to be on besides all of the stuff that we're talking about.

Yeah.

The Apple ancillary products, you know, what you're showing right now is sort of a traditional grid that's got all the Apple hardware products on it.

But it just reminds you that there are so many different products that Apple makes, you know, things like CarPlay.

Will there be any mention of CarPlay at all?

Because you wonder, like, I love CarPlay, but, you know, you always wonder how much room for growth there is.

Are we going to hear about CarPlay?

Are we going to hear about Apple TV, for example?

not that I expect a new one, although there is a rumor that they're working on a new Apple TV,

but a hardware or more likely software, you know, will there be software improvements about Apple

TV that are worth talking about? Maybe not. I mean, tvOS is something that doesn't move forward

very often nowadays, even though I love tvOS, it's by far the best way to watch TV.

And then, of course, we're going to talk about this later on today too, but, you know, the Vision

Pro, which is always my personal, I love that device so much, and Vision OS in general,

my main hope for Vision OS at WWDC

is just that it stays on the radar screen.

You know, I just want to see some signs

that Apple is still committed to the platform,

moving forward with it,

even if they're not going to announce

new hardware for a long time.

And that's totally fine with me

because my Vision Pro is great.

But I just hope that we see some moving forward with it.

I want to see some affirmation that,

yes, we haven't forgotten about Vision OS.

We're still pushing forward that platform,

not only because the current device,

but because we want to continue

to push forward the technology so that a few years ago, we can have even more things coming.

And we'll be talking about that in a few minutes in today's podcast.

But so all those questions I have about what the scope of the announcements are going to

be.

Well, you talk about no hardware announcements, or we don't expect very many.

Felipe Esposito at Macworld that you link to, I think, agrees with you.

Although I thought this was interesting.

He did point out that, where did he say?

It was in 2023, Apple unveiled the Vision Pro at WWDC.

So they announced it there.

Now, it wasn't available until the following February.

So it was like six, seven, eight months later.

But it was something that they – I mean, Apple knew, to your point that you said earlier,

this isn't something that was going to appeal to the general masses, basically, on the price and the bulkiness of it.

But as you and I know, we've been talking about this for a long time now.

It was something that I think appealed to maybe a little bit more of the geekiness of the attendees from WWDC and even those of us that are kind of watching what's going on there.

And that one made sense, Brett, because Apple knew that they were releasing the Vision Pro product earlier than they released similar products.

But it was because the idea was they wanted to excite developers and get people started with this brand new platform.

In fact, that one that you're talking about, 2023, it, you know, traditionally these WWDC

keynote announcements are about an hour and a half, about 90 minutes.

That one, because they spent so much time on Vision OS and because it was something so

new, it was actually one of the longest, longest ones in memory.

It was, it got close to two hours because there was so much to say and it was something

brand new, even though the product itself, as you said, would not come out until the following

spring.

But, but that was a, that was an interesting one.

Another thing that I wonder about for Monday, and this is just more of theatrics.

I feel like since COVID, we now know how Apple does these things.

You know, it's a video that's planned in advance.

And we know what the keynote's going to look like.

You know, traditionally, Tim Cook will come out and introduce it.

And then everybody else will show their things.

And then at the very end, Tim Cook comes out again and says, thank you.

You know, we look forward to a good week.

You know, the big question this week is going to be John Ternus, right?

Because now we know that John, on the one hand, this is the last WWDC where Tim Cook is in charge.

Will there be, I mean, what I'm envisioning is, you know, they could do a funny, they always do a funny skit in the beginning.

So they could do a funny skit that has something to do with Tim Cook passing the reins to John Ternus.

I also just have this image of the video concluding at the end of the approximately 90 minutes with Tim Cook and John Ternus sort of standing together.

You know, whether it's a literal passing the baton or at least sort of figuratively.

There you go, maybe.

Holding hands, walking off into the sunset together.

Who knows?

Yeah.

But it just seems like it's a perfect opportunity, especially because this audience of primarily

developers, you know, they more than anyone else know the characters behind it.

You know, again, when you come to things like the iPhone announcements in the fall, a lot

of people that pay attention to it, you know, maybe people know who Tim Cook is, but a lot

of people don't know a lot of people at the company beyond Tim Cook.

So the word, the name John Tarnas won't mean anything to them.

But for this audience, I think that they definitely know who he is.

And so I think this would be an appropriate opportunity to do some sort of handoff.

and I personally believe that they're going to do something whether it's explicit or subtle and I

can't wait to see what it is I mean is it going to be in the beginning is going to be at the end I

don't know right it's not just Tim Cook's last WWE to see it's potentially his last like public

facing keynote big presentation obviously there'll be some other things and maybe Apple's got some

other things planned before he leaves but probably not though because he's leaving in September and

they typically don't have anything between now and September yeah but that's what I'm saying

And that announcement for the new iPhone, isn't that like in late September?

So that would be after the transition.

So he may not have another big public-facing presentation.

There might be some other things that go on.

But, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if Tim Cook just kind of glides away off into the sunset without very much on there.

You know who else, just quickly, as you were talking about John Turnus and some of these, Suruji.

I would be interested to see, like, haven't they typically had him come on and maybe talk about, again,

And this is that geekery aspect with, you know, some of the deep dives into what they're doing with some of the not just the processors that power this, but even maybe some of the modem processors, you know, or something along those lines.

I mean, I'd be interested to see what they do.

You know, that that goes into, well, there'll be a hardware announcement, because if there is a hardware announcement, no question, Saruji comes out to talk about it.

Because remember, Saruji used to be in charge of like the chips and stuff like that.

And he was recently elevated to be in charge of basically all Apple hardware.

But if there's no Apple hardware announcement, does he appear at all?

I think not.

I think he only appears if there's some announcement regarding Apple hardware, but we'll see.

You talked about the skits.

Was it the last year, WWDC, or maybe it was the fall announcement where Air Force One, where he was in an F1 race car?

Was that like that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That may have been a year ago.

And then they had the famous –

They were racing around because it was along with the F1 movie, right?

And they were racing around the Apple Park spaceship campus.

And then they had the one where they jump out of airplanes.

I mean, some of these opening videos are totally corny and silly, but I'm like, you know what?

But they look great.

Why not?

Have fun.

They're slickly produced.

They're really great.

So we've been focusing on the keynote.

But I mean, let's just point out that the keynote is going to be the highlights.

That's going to be the first 90 minutes.

And that's what we're going to all watch.

And then after that, they're going to have the State of the Union, which is purely addressed at developers.

And that one's a lot more geeky.

You know, a lot of it's going to be coding and Xcode and all that sort of stuff.

But there's always little tidbits in the State of the Union.

And that's one that I don't really watch myself.

But I read the reviews of it because people will find little bitty tidbits of things that are, you know, this is an interesting thread.

This is something they're encouraging developers.

So then that's going to get packed later on that day.

And then after that, Apple releases the videos of individual sessions, which are, who knows, 60 to 80, you know, little bitty videos of, you know, anywhere like 15 to 30 minutes each that will focus on something that's really important to developers.

And again, although aimed at developers, typically like a first couple of minutes of those videos are sort of at the high level, you know, things that you and I could understand.

And then they get into the coding stuff, which is, but it's always a way of seeing the technology.

You know, sometimes something that Apple itself isn't really producing a product, but they will be showing off a technology, encouraging developers to use it so that come this fall or the end of the year, maybe even next spring, then we're going to see new third party apps that take advantage of some new core technology.

And that's going to be exciting, too, which is, again, why WWDC is so great, because it really does set the stage for the next 12 months, because some of this stuff is immediate stuff from Apple that we can't wait to get in our hands.

And some of it is just Apple, you know, setting the framework, putting some foundation, some things in their system that developers can tap into.

So there's just so much to be excited to.

I'm really excited.

And in fact, we should mention this, a good point to mention, Brett, next week, instead of doing the podcast on Friday, you and I are going to record on Wednesday morning, which puts us a little bit closer to all the WWDC announcements because there's going to be so much to talk about.

So look at your podcast feed by the end of the day on Wednesday as opposed to the end of the day Friday next week because there's just going to be so much to talk about.

Yeah, thank you for mentioning that.

And I'll just quickly say because you put it in some of your leagues, Apple does definitely want you to get excited about WWDC.

They have put up a site here where you can go and download wallpapers for your Mac or for your iPad or for your iPhone.

I actually, I bit and I downloaded it for my iPhone.

It looks pretty good.

It's a pretty good look.

I like that one.

Yeah.

It's kind of dark.

I mean, I guess when I look at it, I'm like, really?

Like I want something poppy because you also linked to the fact that Apple released a whole

music, Apple music playlist to get you in the mood.

And a lot of this is really, you know, upbeat, peppy songs.

And I'm like, but why can't you match that with the wallpaper?

Like I want something happy and it just looks a little dark.

That's just me.

I mean, I know a lot – my kids are both in dark mode all the time,

and I'm in light mode all the time.

And it's like, come on.

I want something a little – but it's been fun.

I've been listening to this Apple Music playlist.

Oh, you actually listened to it?

Oh, yeah, when I saw that you linked to it.

And most of this is probably going to be music that they play during maybe some of the –

I don't know, maybe something will show up.

They usually have music playing like 30 minutes or so before –

Because this is the link that you had in here as well,

that this is where you and I will be watching for it on Monday.

Yeah, that playlist, as always, just makes me feel old.

Andy Anato, who's a longtime Apple commentator,

who, by the way, has a brand new website, anato.com,

but he linked to it, and his comment on this playlist was,

I think I recognized maybe one or two of these artists,

and I mean, I think that's about the same here.

You know, I have heard of people like Taylor Swift and Bruno Mars,

but there's a whole lot of artists on here that I do not know,

and I'm sure it's because I am gold.

This is a great song.

Her name is Ray, R-A-Y-E.

Have you heard this one?

It's Where Is My Husband?

It's hilarious.

I love it.

I'll have to check it out.

Yeah, I enjoy that.

Bruno Mars is on there.

Good stuff.

Okay, we'll leave WWDC for additional conversation and discussion next week.

But we are excited about it, as you can't tell.

A few other links that you had before.

We knew we were going to spend a lot of time on it.

Glenn Fleischman.

I feel like I just, I'm going to set up a, probably an AI notification tool.

Like anytime that Glenn posts something, I'm going to immediately go and read it.

This time he's talking about something that I have actually been confused about.

I think I'm still a little confused about it, but Glenn at least helps uncover the fact

and confirms for me and encourages me that yes, it is confusing the way it's set up.

We're talking about the depth effect for photos, mostly on the iPhone, but you can see it in

some other places, but mostly I see this on iPhone. You got to have an iPhone XR or XS or later. So

most of us have, you know, a 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 or so, 17 that has this. I love it when it looks

good, but it doesn't always look good. And it's not always intuitive as to how to get a depth effect

on your photo. Thank you, Glenn, for at least explaining it a little bit here. Yeah. Even this

is one of the rare examples. His articles are always great because she's a great explainer,

But this is one of the rare ones that I don't feel like I understood all of it.

And even after reading his article, I'm still a little confused.

You know, here's the thing.

Again, back to the Vision Pro.

The Vision Pro, one of the cool things about it is it can take these sort of 3D pictures and videos so that even if I just take a picture of my kids or like something at my house or a plant, you know, when I'm wearing my Vision Pro, it can look 3D, which is pretty cool.

It's like it's realistic.

And then Apple brought this, has the same technology that they can use on the iPhone, that even though it's a 2D device, when you move your iPhone back and forth, you sort of like look a little bit to the left, look a little to the right.

Apple has gotten really good with this technology to the point where I've actually noticed that if I just take a regular picture, just a regular old picture, 2D picture, and you apply, you tell Apple to apply the spatial effect to it.

It is so good.

yeah, it takes whatever's in the foreground of the picture, it moves it forward just a little bit.

And as a result, that creates this sort of fake depth effect that you can sort of feel like you

can look to the left and look to the right and it looks 3D. And I've actually noticed that the ones

that Apple, the 3D effects, the depth effects that Apple is creating through software in some ways

looks better to me than even if I actually use my Vision Pro and take a 3D picture. Or actually,

if you use an iPhone, you can take a picture where it will use the two cameras, which are not terribly

far apart, but there are, you know, one's a little bit more to the left and one's a little

bit more to the right.

And it will use that to make a 3D picture.

But I actually think that the software effect is frankly just as good.

And what makes it confusing to me, and this is the part is like, there's different names.

I mean, they have something called a spatial scene and there's another one called another

one.

There's like, there's different types of names and I don't quite understand which one is

which.

And every time you turn it on, it sort of generates it.

Look, the end effect is cool.

It is fun.

I mean, it's just like way, way back when,

when Apple created what I always think of

as the Harry Potter effect,

that you can have, you know,

not just a still image,

but you hold your finger down on it

and it plays video for about five seconds.

So it's like the picture literally comes to light.

This is another thing.

It's like a little sort of a gimmick

that it gives it more literal depth.

It brings it to light.

So it's a cool effect.

And I even have one that's on the front of my iPhone

that, you know, I can sort of move around and see.

So I like it,

but I just don't always understand how it's working

or how to turn it on, but it's cool.

I love it when I see it.

Well, okay, so let's take a step back

because Glenn starts with the depth effect,

which I remember this was one of the first iterations of this.

It's been around the longest, yeah.

And it's only on the lock screen.

So the idea was, I remember when this first came out,

you could add a photo to your lock screen,

but then you've got the clock up there.

But what if your photo and the clock overlap?

Don't you want like the clock maybe to be behind the scene

as if the person is standing in front of the clock

or maybe you want the clock in front.

And so the depth effect, I think,

was sort of that first iteration of this,

and that's on the lock screen.

And he has this picture here where you can go in,

and when you customize the lock screen,

you can determine if you want the depth effect

to be turned on or not.

I got to tell you, I experimented with this all the time,

anytime that I create a new lock screen,

and I end up turning it off.

I just feel like

You do, okay.

Because I want to see the time.

I mean, I kind of know with the time.

You can see in this picture to the right here,

it cuts off the bottom is that i mean i know that that's a two and i'm sure that's a zero but could

it be a seven instead like i just don't want to guess when i'm looking for the time i just want

it to be all the day so i usually turn that depth effect off now as he said this started in ios 16

and that was available on the the iphone xr way back when yeah so that was the one thing but i

think what you're talking about with the vision pro i think i think is the spatial scene as you

we're talking well there's actually three different words there's spatial scene there's spatial photo

and spatial video now i understand the same between photo and video obviously but yeah what's the

difference between a spatial photo and a spatial scene as i understand it from glenn the spatial

scene is created by the iphone the spatial photo is created by the vision pro and can only be viewed

on the vision pro but they're basically the same thing i don't quite understand why apple distinguishes

them i it's as far as i can tell they're basically the same thing so so now if i to your point you

So if I go in, so I've got this really cool picture of me and my son, it's flat because I took it with an iPhone, right?

Yeah.

So now, as Glenn explains here, there's a little hexagon, weird little hexagon, tiny symbol in the top right corner.

And when I tap on it, it says spatial scene.

And even as Glenn talks about, it's got this little wavy, you know, that goes up on the scene.

And then now to your point, if I'm looking at the picture, it looks exactly the same, except that when I move the phone back and forth a little bit, it's like, whoa, it's like, wait a minute.

I see the store behind us and the selfie, it looks 3D now.

It has that 3D effect.

That's cool.

Now, if I tap, the only thing I can do at this point is tap the X to get out of that.

So now it goes back to the 2D flat effect.

I don't know if that if I can save it separately.

I'm sure that there's a way to do that.

No, and in fact, what Glenn says here that I didn't realize is if you press that hexagon again, it actually once again generates it from scratch.

And so in theory, it could be a little different the next time you do it versus the last time that you do it.

And every once in a while, it will do something that looks fake, that looks really fake.

And you're like, oh, that's just a bad one.

But I'm actually surprised at the number of times that it actually looks really good.

I mean, it's a very, it's very impressive software, algorithms, AI, machine, whatever

it is that's going on behind the scenes, like thumbs up.

It's pretty cool stuff.

It does look good.

In fact, I'm just, I've got an old picture of my daughter now when she, I mean, she has

to been, you know, four or five and it, and it looks fantastic on there.

But like I said, now I've got to click, click the X.

It's almost just like a fun party trick.

It's nice to see that and it's fun, but then I, then it's gone.

It's like, I can't really save it.

I guess I could, there's got to be a way because now you can view that if it's in spatial scene on there as well.

To me, I like what it does.

It's fantastic.

It's just, that's a place to improve.

Like, okay, I want to save it that way.

But then it's about the hardware too, Jeff, right?

I mean, it's like you can only see that angle or that aspect of it if you have a tool that can show that 3D.

I don't think I can do it on the Mac.

I don't know if I can even do it on the iPad.

I know you can do it on your Vision Pro, but if you've got to have an iPhone that can handle iOS 26 and can show that.

Anyway, it's a good start.

And, again, it's just great that Glenn helps me to know I'm not the only one that's a little confused about this.

In fact, you said save it.

One last thing I'll say is if you create a spatial scene on the iPhone and then if you don't click that X, if you just move on to another photo and then you go back to it again, it will still be turned on.

So like it will stay in that spatial scene mode until you turn it off.

Just don't X out of it.

Just swipe to the next picture and then it will still be there.

But if you do X out of it, then you need to generate it from scratch again.

But wait a minute.

If I slide back and forth, then that means every new picture creates a spatial scene.

Is that true?

And I can't save it.

Yeah.

Or at least for me it is.

Yeah, see, this just shows you why I do not.

Spatial scene.

So I can see the next photo.

I'm swiping through my photos like you're saying.

But for me, some of them I'm looking at don't.

I don't understand.

This is the thing.

I get confused about how this works and stuff like that.

It's almost like you're in spatial scene mode.

And you have to X out of that mode to get to your regular pictures.

Okay, keep writing, Glenn.

And Apple, maybe you'll let out something like this at WWDC too.

Something Apple probably won't be talking about is USB-C hubs, but we'll talk about them.

Great article here from The Gadgeteer.

Man, I've been a longtime reader of The Gadgeteer.

It was Julie something.

I can't remember her name, but man, she started this a long, long time ago.

Can we just say, before we talk about this article, Julie started this site a long time ago.

It's been around for decades.

But I don't think that she's involved with it anymore, at least maybe just behind the scenes.

And I've noticed that they have a new author, this Ray Padla, that's been doing all their articles.

I don't actually know the current status of the gadget here.

Did somebody else take it over?

What the story is?

Some of the articles are better than others,

but this particular one I did link to.

This is good.

Because as you were to say,

the iPad just has the one USB-C port on it,

but because it's such a powerful device,

you often want to connect it

to a bunch of different things.

And so we've talked in the past

about some of these little hubs

that you can attach to it.

And I actually thought that many of them

that are described in this article

are some of the...

I thought it was a legitimate list.

So if you are looking to make your iPad more powerful, to be able to plug in all sorts of

different things, maybe you want to plug in a camera because you can plug in an external

camera for video conferencing as opposed to just dealing with the one that's on there.

Or maybe you want to plug in a storage device because you can have storage devices too.

I mean, I do that right now.

I mean, I have so many home videos that I've been scanning and creating over the years that

they would just completely fill up my iPad or my iPhone if I had them all there stored.

So I've got them on like a little external USB-C key that I can plug in when I want to look at them.

But otherwise, and many other devices, you know, external, you know, pointing devices and keyboards and blah, blah, blah.

So there's a it's a good list here of some of the different options that are available from Amazon and elsewhere.

Well, Ray talks about this in the context of the iPads, one port problem.

And that's true. You only have the USB-C port at the bottom.

Ray also talks about the fact that the MacBook Air, I think, does the Air only have one port?

I'm sure the MacBook Neo only has one USB-C port.

But I got to tell you, I have a port for my MacBook Pro, even though I have three USB-C on here.

And sometimes I fill them all up.

So you still use a hub sometimes, yeah.

Absolutely.

To me, what's great about this now, the fact when the iPad first started having the USB-C port,

that matched what I could have on the MacBook Pro.

and it cut down the fact that I had to carry additional devices because I could have one.

Yeah, exactly. I could have one high powered USB-C port that I could use with either the MacBook Pro

or my iPad or anything else. Like I like the fact that from that standpoint, it's standardized. And

sure enough, I travel with one USB-C hub now. And when we talk about a hub, just in case if you

don't know you plug it in and it has multiple usb a and maybe another c port it has hdmi if you want

hdmi to uh to a television or a projector typically like you can see this one has a land port so if

you've got uh internet uh wired internet you can do that and all of them have a little bit something

different in here so you have to make sure that you get the right one um but i actually like these

that have the little cable connected to them you and i've talked about uh is it belkin there's one

of them that has one that that that plugs right in and comes directly on you and it sits in a

seamlessly with the ipad on there and that's nice but i can't use that with my macbook pro right so

i like the ones that have the little cable on here she uh ray mentions one from hyperdrive

good sateki we've talked about sateki this is a tiny one here that can work you green which not as

It's known probably as maybe Belkin or Anchor, but I've got Ugreen.

You and I both have that little silver 3-in-1 charger, I think, from Ugreen that I still like.

There's an Anchor one that she mentions on here too.

I tell people, first of all, having a USB-C hub is something I carry all the time in my little bag.

The second thing that we've said many times on this podcast, don't cheap out on this.

Make sure people look at it like it's $80, it's $120.

it's well worth it.

You don't want to cheap out on something like a USB-C hub

for a variety of reasons.

I gotta tell you, I had won a cheap one before

and it blinked out.

Like the, I think it was the HDMI cable wasn't working.

And it was like, what's going on?

What's going on here?

Fortunately, at that point, I had another one

and I was able to use it and it worked fine.

And I just don't wanna have that guessing game

that goes on some of that.

So great article.

Thanks for linking to that today.

In the vision, let's do a quick in the vision.

We were just talking about the vision.

Pro. But I like this. If you can afford an airplane, probably can afford a Vision Pro.

And why not? Because there's a company called Cirrus, as you were talking about,

that will, you know, this like, wait, we've got customers that buy our planes. Let's make sure

that they have a free app that they can utilize now with the Vision Pro. This is a fun app. I

enjoyed playing with it earlier this week. You know, I was not aware of this company Cirrus.

They make these little, you know, small airplanes that, you know, either just like a two or four seater, or I think they have some ones that go up to six seats, but that's about as big.

But they are cute.

They are incredibly well designed.

You know, they look really cool planes.

The company's been in business for quite a while now.

But the thing that's fun about the video, about the new app for the Vision Pro is, first of all, this part is expected.

It has a really nice spatial video that was some sure shot with the, you know, the fanciest, you know, red cameras and stuff like that.

And when you're watching the video, you feel like you're sitting there in the cockpit, which is cool because, I mean, we all fly airplanes where you're looking to your side.

But how nice to be sitting there in the pilot seat and you can look around and they're flying over Monument Valley and the Grand Canyon and things like that.

It's really, really cool.

So this part of it is fun.

It gets you excited about flying.

But the thing that jumped out at me is the other part of the app, which says it's called like Explore Our Planes or something like that.

And when you click on it, it actually brings up these models of the planes.

And when you first bring it up, it's a model that's about, you know, maybe about a couple of feet.

But you can hit one button and it makes it full size.

And so suddenly in the middle of your living room, like you're walking around your living room and the plane is there.

And what makes this amazing is the fidelity.

I mean, I don't know how they put this together.

it is so crisp and clean and bright like you literally feel like the airplane is sitting there

in your living room so much so that you're like walking stepping over your couch to get around it

and then you can actually like walk i mean of course there's no real wall so you just sort of

you know break through the wall and suddenly you're inside the plane and you can see the

controls of the plane in such these beautiful garmin displays they have in there it is like

I feel like I spent some time in the plane earlier this week because it was so realistic.

And I can sit in the front.

I can sit in the back.

I can look around it.

And so it was just such a great technology.

You're ready to buy one now.

Again, Division Pro has been able to do this for a long time of like make an object appear as if it's really there in real life.

I mean, one of the things that Apple does is you can now put like a clock on the wall and it looks really like a real clock.

You and I have shown that before in the podcast.

But this was just, you know, whatever technology they put together between taking real pictures and using computers to stitch it together to make a completely realistic model that you can, you know, look at in your room.

I guess to really experience this, you'd want to be like in some big hangar or something like that where you have infinite space.

You're not going to run into your couch and chairs as you walk around this thing.

Not that it's a very big airplane.

So I just wanted to give them thumbs up because this is just a very impressive use of the technology.

So cool, cool thing.

Another story in the Vision, we already alluded to the fact that the Vision Pro could be some part or piece of WWDC announcement, but we kind of just brushed over the fact that we've been talking about Apple maybe eyeing the glasses market, right?

And if there was some kind of a Vision Pro-esque announcement at either the keynote or next week during WWDC, it could be along the lines of helping programmers to maybe start thinking about programming for Apple Glasses instead of just the Vision Pro.

That could be a stretch, but it could be possible.

Yeah, my guess is still one or two years away. But the rumor is that instead of coming out with a new version of the Vision Pro, which has got similar features, that what Apple wants to do is come out their version of the metal Ray-Ban glasses.

So it'll be something closer to a pair of regular glasses. So it wouldn't be as immersive, but it would provide all this useful information.

And the thing that I was the reason I linked to this article, it was Mark Gurman of Bloomberg, but his stuff's behind a paywall.

So I linked to a version from Apple Insider that was discussing it.

But he just reminds us that before Apple came out with the Apple Watch, that was what, 2015?

So that was 11 years ago now.

You know, watches were a market that's been around for, you know, how long have been watches been around?

Hundreds of years, a long time.

And then suddenly Apple rolls on in.

And now, I mean, every time I look around, maybe it's just the people that I hang out with.

But like I see so many people wearing Apple Watches.

And I have to imagine that, like, obviously, if you are a company like Rolex that makes the highest end watches, people are going to still buy those expensive watches.

But if I'm a watch manufacturer and I make that sort of mid-level, like the fossils or the swatches or whatever, I would imagine that their sales have gone down quite a bit because so many people instead are wearing Apple watches.

And it's not just cannibalization.

I mean, there's also a lot of people like myself that have sort of stopped wearing watches that because of the Apple watch will wear them again.

But Apple totally destroyed that market.

And again, or maybe not destroyed it, but they definitely upset the market in a big way.

It definitely changed it.

And again, you could say the same thing is true for the portable music market to the extent that, you know, people used to use Walkman and then they used iPods and other technology like that.

And so the question is, would Apple do the same for the eyeglass market?

Just earlier this week on Wednesday, my daughter needed a new pair of glasses.

And so I was at just the local eyeglass store, you know, and they have all the different frames.

And she's trying them all on.

And there's hundreds and hundreds of styles.

And you have to find one that looks good in her face and stuff like that.

But it does make me wonder if much like we used to have regular watches and now so many

people use a smartwatch, how many years from, because I do think this is coming, how many

years from now will it be where getting smart glasses is just as common as getting a smartphone

or a smartwatch?

And then maybe Apple, maybe not by itself, because Meta is already there too and other

companies as well.

But Apple could be this huge player in the market.

And I can't imagine that Apple is going to have hundreds of different designs like I saw in the glasses store with my daughter earlier this week.

But maybe they'll have like the four or six designs.

And again, we've talked about these rumors for a while, but this was it was just a nice way to frame it, frame it, that Apple may really disrupt this market.

I don't think this is going to happen in 2026 or probably not even 2027.

But 2028, you know, I would not surprise me if this is on the horizon because Apple's done it before.

They might do it again.

rounding out the bottom of the news here you always have a fun video and this one is very fun

keep data trackers off your back um literally and they apparently all data trackers are dressed in

chrome uh great little great little video we've seen some of these it's all kind of hearkening

back to the privacy aspects that apple is very good to tout but it's just so cute it's worth

it's worth uh it's worth watching not to mention the fact like what how did you say this consider

watching this one with the closed captions on which i did and i think i was even more confused

by the captions that i was with the video but it was great because of the song that they included

on so so let me set this up before you go next step because when i first saw this video i watched it

and was like oh this is a fun video and then i watched it again last night when i was putting

together my post for today and i just happened to have captions turned on on youtube for whatever

reason and then i noticed that like because the song that's being sung in the background is like

some like swedish song but all of the all of the lyrics were like it just i know there's something

about the swedish language when you look at the characters that was very fascinating to me

so i totally enjoyed it but then just before we started recording you were telling me that you

dig even deeper because apparently what if if you look at the youtube video on youtube it tells you

who is singing the song and what they're singing right yeah apple always usually does that like

they will give you a link to the song that they used within Apple Music.

So if you go to the YouTube page here,

and usually you have to click more to get, you know,

to see more of the content or the description,

you can see the song is here by a group called Zero Eight.

And the song is Hörge Låten.

Okay, feel free, folks, to write in with my terrible Swedish pronunciation here.

but apparently this is a acapella group zero eight here i'll put this is the uh the the website of

the this this is an album from 2014 and they do acapella versions of you are the sunshine of my

life smoke gets in your eyes and they do harga latin which i i even had to dig a little bit

deeper jeff this apparently is a sweetest folk song about a mysterious fiddler that came to the

community and played the fiddle the youth were dancing around unable to stop and then they even

called him a demonic fiddler it was almost like it's the sweetest version of the pied piper of

some kind okay exactly where it goes but it's a when you think about it it's perfect not just from

i mean apple whoever's doing this at apple or chia day or whoever their marketing people is

they always do such a fantastic job of matching the feel of the songs what i would call it

to the video but if you go one layer deeper here it's like this has got like a a slightly demonic

feel like somebody is trying to you know pull the wool over your eyes or to uh you know trick you

and that's exactly what the video is about right i mean exactly how the layers go a little bit

deeper in here so i'm gonna add this to my apple music zero eight is a group apparently they're a

Swedish acapella group of some kind,

kind of like straight no chaser is the way that I kind of get the feel for it.

You know, that, yeah.

I know, but we, we both enjoy acapella music or barbershop type music.

It's always sort of fun to listen to. And, you know, I think over the years,

you know, especially going all the way back to the original iPod commercials,

you know, 20 plus years ago, I, so many times in my life,

I have learned about interesting music that I now listen to regularly because

somebody picked it to put into an Apple ad.

Whoever has that job of picking good music has just always done a great job with it.

And again, and here's the latest version of, yes, it's a fun video.

But now I have good publicity for Zero Eight because suffice it to say they were not on my radar screen before this week.

And now I will have to listen to some of their – like they're in my life.

I presume that's the Beatles version, the Beatles song in my life.

I look forward to hearing a fantastic song.

Look forward to hearing their acapella version of it.

And so now I've given me –

I love Christmas music.

So fun stuff.

I'm going to follow them for sure.

Yeah.

So little did I know when I linked to the video that you would peel back the layers, Brett, and introduce us all to a new fantasy.

We're going to go deeper.

Oh, that's good.

In the know.

In the know.

Okay, Mr. Jeff, for this, for today's In the Know, I've got a challenge for you.

This has to do.

Here's what I want you to do.

Okay.

Open up your mail app on your iPhone.

I'm there.

Okay.

And just open up a random message and find the print button.

Let's say that you want to print this mail message.

Now, while you're finding that, I'm going to tell people why I hardly ever, if rarely, ever actually print an email message to a physical piece of paper.

The reason that I like finding the print button on the mail app is because let's say that I want to convert this mail message into a PDF file so that I can save it.

Like if I'm working with a client or something like that, and I just want to preserve or archive that email message, I can convert it to a PDF.

And I'll show there in just a second here, when you go to print a PDF or print and mail message, you can just expand your finger and thumb and it goes into a PDF preview.

Okay, so you found the button on your mail.

I mean, I only know it from experience because I do it the same way as you.

It's not intuitive.

You press the button that looks like a reply button.

And when you press it, it first gives you options of reply, reply all forward.

And then it has trash.

You're like, that's a strange place.

And then you move further down and you get all these other options.

And at the very bottom, you have the print button.

But it is sort of hidden down there.

That's what I do.

To me, that's where you can find the print button if you're on your iPhone.

Okay.

Next stage of the challenge, Jeff.

Get your iPad and go to the mail app on your iPad.

On my iPad.

Okay.

I'm on my iPad.

Find the print button on the iPad.

Okay.

Actually.

Because I'm doing this, right?

Because I'm on my phone and I do print.

Sometimes I'm looking at mail on my iPad.

And this is, I'm really focusing on the mail, the Mac, you know, the Apple mail app on here.

Okay.

I know where it is, but only from experience.

You know where it is.

Because when I first open up the message at the very top, there's a bar that has things like reply, reply all.

And so you might think clicking that same reply button will bring you, but it doesn't.

And I know this from experience.

You need to scroll all the way to the bottom of the message.

It's a long message.

It's a long way.

And then once you get to the super bottom of the message, then you see that, again, it's an icon that looks like a reply.

But when you click it, it's the same as the iPhone.

But, again, I only know this because, like you, I do have PDF versions of messages, and it's a little hidden.

Yeah.

This took me probably 10 to 12 minutes out of a day this week that I cannot get back now, Jeff.

I was so frustrated.

I just happened to be on my iPad.

It was in my mail app.

I found a message that I wanted to print a PDF.

And I'm like, okay, well, I know how to do this on the iPhone.

I do it all the time.

And I tap reply at the top.

And I'm like, no, I don't actually want to reply to this message.

I have to close out of that.

And then I'm like, okay, well, it's got to be one of these other buttons at the very top.

Because at the top of my mail message on my iPad, it's reply, reply, all forward, trash.

There's a folder.

There is a clock, which is for reminding me about this message at a time.

And then I can mark it red or unread.

There's no more option there so that I can find a dropdown menu.

There's no option to get more options there at the very top.

I had no, I rarely ever scroll down to the very bottom of an email message.

Why would I do that?

It's ridiculous.

But there sure enough is another reply button in the tiny, tiny it's not even, it's just an outline.

Like I could miss it if I wasn't really knowing what it was for.

But why does it even look like a reply button? Because especially on the iPad, especially on the iPad, it is it's so much more than there already is a reply button at the very top.

So this it should be like a star or a button or a more button, like the dot dot dot button or something to indicate that this is going to bring up other things.

I completely agree. And I've had this thought in the past that this is this is I mean, whatever.

What am I to say? I'm not Apple. I'm just an attorney. But this strikes me.

For a user, though, Jeff, this is my point.

This is poor UI design.

This is poor UI design.

It should not be that icon.

But you passed the challenge, my friend.

Yeah, but it's also a little confusing that it's all the way at the bottom, because unless, like you say, you scroll to the bottom of a message, and if you have a long email where you've been replying and there's back a long chain, you might be scrolling until the cows come home before you get down there to even find it.

Okay, so good point there, because here's the other thing that I thought of.

On the iPad, you can go to the message list.

So I've got my iPad in landscape mode, right?

And you know that you can swipe to the left or right on the actual message.

And so if you swipe to the left on the message, you have three options that come up.

More, flag, and trash.

So tap on more.

Do you see print in that list?

I always get nervous because I don't want to delete it.

I know.

You don't want to delete it.

I know.

And then, no, it is there, but you got to – oh, no, it's actually not there.

It's not there.

That's the thing.

Why is it there?

Because otherwise it looks exactly like the pop-up.

It looks exactly like the other one.

Thank you, Jeff.

That's what I'm asking.

Idiotic.

It looks exactly like the pop-up menu that comes if you scroll all the way down to the bottom and you hit reply.

Why would print not be there?

You know, the very last option when you do that says report a concern with summary.

That's like reporting the Apple AI.

I want to report a concern with the user interface.

I might have to do that.

Exactly.

Now, here's the other thing.

And I've got this link that I've got pulled up because one person had one other thing that I'm a little ashamed that I didn't think of.

But I'm just going to chalk it up to the fact like I still don't think about the iPad in this way.

But now with iPadOS 26, you can pull down a menu bar from the top of the screen.

And if you do that, like you would be on a computer or on your Mac, you would hit the file menu.

If you can pull it down from the top, you hit file.

And sure enough, there is a print option.

You're talking about the iPad or the iPhone?

The iPad.

The iPad.

On the iPad.

I'm in the mail app.

Yep.

I'm looking at a message.

So what do you want me to do?

I want you to pull down from the very top of the thing because that is what will reveal the file menu up there.

Remember that they have installed that.

Now, you may have to be in full screen mode in order for it to work.

Yeah, I'm in full screen mode.

Okay.

So just from the very top of the screen, just pull down a slightly so that it brings up the file, edit, view, mailbox message format window.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Now I know.

Now you know, right?

And so sure enough, if you pull that menu down, which I hardly rarely ever do on the iPad, just because that's not the way that I work on the iPad.

But if you hit the file menu there, you will see there is a print button there as well.

Did you find it?

Yeah.

You've got a message selected.

So I was in full screen mode on my iPad.

So I needed to switch to multitasking mode.

And then once I switch to multitasking mode, now that I'm in multitasking mode, I see the file edit view, blah, blah, blah.

And then if I go to file, I do see print.

And of course, if I have a keyboard connected, I can just do command P and that's a good way to do it too.

So I don't have any of these concerns if I'm in a keyboard mode.

In fact, even if I'm not in multitasking mode of the iPad, even if I'm in full screen mode, I can always, when I have a keyboard connected to my iPad, always do Command P, Command P, very simple.

And that bypasses all of this stuff.

But again, I don't always have a keyboard connected to my iPad.

Well, I used to have a keyboard always attached to my iPad until I met Jeff Richardson, who a few months ago, you were saying like you switch between the keyboard and you have the folio case.

and I got it. Yeah, but then I pick it up all the time. Yeah. And I got to tell you, I love that.

I love swapping back and forth. But of course, I find myself wishing that I had the other one.

If I've got it in the keyboard, it's like, no, it's too bulky. I want to put it in the folio.

But if I'm in the folio, then I miss the fact that I can do command P because I do command P all the

time on the Mac. And of course, it works on the iPad now, which again, it's just this this, you

know, the conversation we've had so long about the iPad becoming more like the Mac, etc. Anyway,

thank you you passed the test jeff you did a great job but you knew about it right i just didn't know

about it and i thought that i would know about it it would be intuitive because i do it so often on

the iphone and sure surely the print button should be up there and then i thought before i found all

the way at the bottom that reply weird weird you know uh uh orphaned reply button at the very bottom

of the message because there's no other buttons there by the way that i can swipe and do the more

on the message and it's not even there.

That's just so wonky on there.

Okay, anyway, that's my tip.

I'll link to this article.

It's an Apple community article,

which helped me regain my sanity

after I was throwing things earlier this week.

But it just gives all of these options in here

so you can read through as well

if it's something that you do.

And again, anytime that I go into the print

and it brings up,

and finally I get to the print screen,

I just go down to the little print preview

and I spread my finger and thumb apart

immediately creates a PDF file for me.

And then I can either email that to somewhere else

or I usually just save it up into Dropbox

or something from there.

Yeah, I do that all the time

because it's often very useful to have that information

that's in an email in a PDF format

so that you can save it or do something with it

or share it, blah, blah, blah, all the time.

Okay, much like earlier in today's podcast

where you went several layers deep with the YouTube video

and then you found a song

and then you found the Swedish acapella super group

and blah, blah, blah.

I'm going several layers deep here.

So if you remember last year,

Last week, excuse me, last week when I was at the beach, I would love to remember last

week when I was at the beach.

That was so lovely.

But when I was last week at the beach, when I gave you the tip, I was talking about David

Pogue and how he had a, it's his sub stock, you could access it on the web, whatever.

He had a list of Apple Watch tips.

And then because of all the comments to the post that you were pointing out are worth looking

at, he had a follow-up post of some of the best ones.

So I was looking at that post again.

And of course, his follow-up post that was based upon comments itself has comments.

Okay.

So then you get even more tips.

And so that's just the origin.

But let me just get straight to the tips.

This is a tip and then a tip within a tip.

Okay.

The first tip is we all know that if you want to trigger our favorite AI assistant who will be getting more powerful on Monday, perhaps, of Siri.

If you're using your iPhone, you have to use the word, hey, you know who.

I'm trying to say it out loud.

Tip number one is that if you have an Apple Watch and if you want to do something like, you know, turn on a light in HomeKit or do something or start a timer, you can, you know, talk to your Apple Watch, you know, just get your mouth close to it.

And you can say, hey, you know who, and you can say your command.

The tip is that you can leave out the hey, you know who part of it, because if you just raise your wrist and speak into it, the act of raising your wrist is a substitute for saying a Siri.

And this is something that is built in to the watch.

Now, you can turn it off if you want.

If you find it, it's triggering automatically.

And so there's an option which you have linked on an Apple support site that you can go to the settings app and turn it off.

But I find it useful.

So that is a thing.

It's, you know, it's skip the whatever.

you can just say what you want. So let's say, for example, that I want to create a timer for,

you know, 14 minutes. I can just raise my wrist and then say into my Apple Watches, if I'm talking,

you know, right to the top of it, I can just say, start a timer for 14 minutes and it will do it.

So that's my tip number one. But here's the advanced one. Tip number two, there are certain

things that you can say to an Apple Watch that you can leave out all the nonsense. Instead of saying,

start a timer for 14 minutes. If I just lift my watch and just say 14 minutes,

that's it. I just say 14 minutes and it will automatically know it wants me to start a timer

and it will start a 14 minute countdown timer or 12 minutes or 10 minutes or five minutes,

whatever it is. All you have to do is just raise it up and say five minutes and that's it. And it

will start a timer and you will see it on your Apple watch. It is starting a timer for like five

minutes or whatever down. I'm like, that is really fast. And so it made me think, what else can I say

that's just like one word or two words or something like that? And I'm sure there's other examples,

but the one that I discovered last night, I use this all the time. You have the Apple Watch Ultra,

which has that dedicated action button on the side. And I know you've told me that you have yours

to bring the flashlight up, right? Because you find the flashlight so useful. I don't have,

you know, I just have the series 10, so I don't have an Apple Watch button, but of course I could

raise it and I could say, I could say, Hey, you know who, or I can leave that out. And I can just

say, you know, start the flashlight app. But if you just lift up your Apple watch to your mouth

and you just say the word flashlight, what that's it. Just one word flashlight, one word. And it will

turn on the flashlight on your Apple watch. And it's pretty cool. And so if I'm walking around my

house at night, the lights are off. I don't want to wake anybody else. I don't want to say, I want

to see as little as possible because everybody else is asleep and I'm a night owl, but I have

something in my either hand. It's too fun to, you know, for me to click all the buttons and stuff

like that is too much. I can just raise my Apple watch very quietly, say one word flashlight. And

then in about a second or two, the flashlight turns on my Apple watch. And then I can use my

Apple watch to navigate myself. I don't trip over the, the, the, the staircases. So, so that's it.

So those are the only ones that I know so far, but saying, saying a certain number of minutes,

will start the timer saying flashlight will start the flashlight i'm sure there are other things that

you can do so so it's already a useful tip that you can skip the hey you know who part of it by

having raised to it to uh raise to speak but you can go even further with some of these super short

commands that that as far as i know they only watch in the apple watch i don't think that i can

raise my uh flashlight let's see if i pick up my iphone and just say actually it does work on the

iphone too i didn't realize that i could just say the word flashlight and then it'll actually turn

it on so and i've got the flashlight on setting raise to speak i have to see okay but uh to me

that's oh raise to listen wait is that right raise to listen audio messages no okay i don't want to

do that but i wonder if there is a way i i feel like at some point there was something like that

on the phone and i turned it off almost immediately i mean this was well what you can do in your phone

if you don't want to say the trigger words like if you just hold down the button on the right side

of the phone, then your screen turns into like all the glowing stuff and you can just say a command.

And as I just tried it, if I hold down that button on the side of my iPhone for a second,

and I just say the word flashlight, that's enough for it to put that, you know, I don't have to say

turn on the, I can just go flashlight. And it also does it on my iPhone too. And I suppose that that's

useful as well. But for me, it's even more useful on the Apple watch because that's most likely I'm

carrying something. I'm going up the stairs, it's late at night, or I'm walking around downstairs,

There's no lights turned on.

I can't find the light switch.

One thing I do know is where my hand is.

I can just lift it up, go to my face, say the word flashlight, turn it on, and then I got what I need.

So that's a cool little feature of that.

Have you been experimenting?

Because if I'm holding my watch here because I'm looking at it now and I'm trying to say something, it seems like it doesn't respond.

You need to have a definite raise.

Yeah, so like your arm sort of needs to be down and you definitively raise it and put your Apple Watch close to your mouth and say the words in order to trigger it.

um and then once you do so you don't have to keep holding your watch up you can just let your arm

drop and give it a second or two you know it'll happen the timer will start or the flashlight

will start or whatever it is um it does take a second or two it's not quite as fast as the

iphone is but you know give it two or three seconds and it'll do what you want it to do

but i i do this all the time like if i'm if i'm washing clothes you know i want to get a notification

when you know it's done or if i'm grilling i'll say you know i i need to tell me four minutes so

I can flip the meat or whatever, but I would always say the key words and then, you know,

hold it up and watch it and make sure that it was doing it.

But I'm going to try this now this, because it does give you some kind of a little bit

of a haptic feedback to tell you that it actually heard you.

Right.

And that it acknowledges that it's going to do the timer.

Oh, that's cool.

Okay.

I'm going to, I'm going to keep doing, I'm going to keep experimenting now and see what

else it can do.

In other words, people would just see me talking to my watch all the time.

Yeah.

Hey, if anybody's listening to this and you have other like one or two word commands that you can do with the Apple Watch that are really useful, let me know.

I'd love to share them here because, you know, there's not there's not a ton of them.

But, you know, you want to be as efficient as possible.

And I'd love to learn about more.

At this point, it seems like David Pogue has basically written his next book.

He's crowdsourced it.

I mean, he can write a book now on Apple Watch tips.

And by golly, I would buy it.

I mean, other than the fact that he's got it all right there in his sub stack.

But, man, it just continues on.

And like you said, it's the comments upon the comments.

It's the comments and the comments that get you the really great stuff.

Yeah.

We'll talk with you, all of you, in just a few days.

So as we said, next Monday, June 8th, is going to be the keynote address from Apple at the WWDC.

And so Jeff and I are actually going to record on Wednesday the 10th.

So we're going to do it earlier.

We've got some other things happening next Friday, so we're not going to have time to do with them.

But we thought it would be great to get our first impressions out.

And by that time, there'll be people that will also be writing about it a little bit.

And we can share what we think about the keynote address next Wednesday.

So be on the lookout for that in your podcast.

So, Jeff, we'll talk with you next week, a little bit earlier next week.

But we'll talk with you then.

I am so excited.

I can't wait.

Thanks, Brett.

Bye-bye, everybody.