Welcome to In The News for September 4th, 2026. I am Brett Burney from Appsinlaw.com.

And this is Jeff Richardson from iPhoneJD. Hey, Brett.

Jeff, I'm quivering with excitement already.

Because next week, next week is the surprise and shine Apple event that we have been waiting on that you correctly predicted the date and time.

yours like with from your apple colored crystal ball we knew that it was going to happen next

week and i am i i'm seeing more and more rumors like i'm sure you are about what is going to

happen what they're going to release what's going to be maybe one more thing what's going to be

things we haven't even really thought of that apple has been thinking about now for years and

years but before we get to that this today marks now the fourth day of a brand new ceo at apple

tim cook uh well i keep saying he's left but he hasn't left the building he's probably still

hanging around the building a little bit just without with less responsibilities he's now

chairman of the board or whatever fancy title that they made up for him which i which is fantastic

that he did. And John Ternus has taken over as CEO of Apple. That was September 1st. And boy,

what a way to start with the bang, right? I mean, the fact that you've got now a week after you start

as CEO, you've got a humongous announcement that's coming up. Of course, they've been thinking about

this for months and months already. But John Ternus wrote an interesting little welcome letter,

I guess to himself, or it was actually him writing to the employees of Apple saying,

thrilled to be here and excited for what's coming next.

To the point where even some folks, you linked to one story here from Mike Hurley.

Some folks were saying, how excited is he for next week?

Like, can we read some kind of a hit that he has for next week?

I think he stopped short of that, but it was exciting to see the letter nonetheless.

Apple has done a masterful job with the transition.

You know, one of the most important things you can do, Apple has not had many leaders over the years, and many of them before Steve Jobs, we basically forget about them, you know.

It was, you know, in many people's minds, it was Steve Jobs, and then it was Tim Cook, and then here we are with the next one.

And the transition from leaders, you know, as rocky and as unplanned as the Steve Jobs to Tim Cook transition was because of Steve Jobs' health, this one has been so well prepared, so well planned.

Great point.

And again, if you're going to have a new leader come in, what an exciting way to have it happen, like literally days before the biggest day of the calendar year for Apple, which is always the September iPhone announcement.

It's always the most exciting day.

They get the most press coverage and everything else.

and it's a year when if rumors to be believed uh including rumors from mr john turnis himself which

i'll get to in a second it looks like this is going to be one of the bigger and more memorable

announcements mainly because of that announcement of what we think is going to be the foldable iphone

but perhaps some other things as well and so that's a great like you let them basically you

know let the new leader come in while apple is is on the precipice of announcing all these exciting

things. You know, the first thing that he has out of the box is going to be exciting. You know,

you said before, as I was alluding to, you know, the rumors about what's coming next week. Well,

you know, one of the quote unquote leakers, if you want to be silly about it, was John Turnus

himself because of his letter to all the employees. He's like, I'm so excited about the things that

we're going to announce next week. Again, we know that they're going to announce something because

we all knew it, but so he didn't give us any details. But, you know, you at least think that

if it was only some ho-hum announcements, if it was just going to be like speeds and feeds updates,

maybe he would not have been quite as excited in his letter to employees.

But so it makes you think that this is going to be a big announcement.

So that is exciting.

Even to the point where we've underscored this in the past,

and this is one of the observations that Mike Hurley had,

John Ternus is excited about next week.

John Ternus has always been involved in the hardware side of Apple,

more than the services side, not Apple TV, not the Apple App Store,

not the software side.

I mean, obviously his fingers have been in many, many things.

But the fact that he has been at Apple for so long and he's always been in hardware and the fact that he's excited about next week is just getting us quivering even more with excitement.

Because if he's excited, it's got to probably be something hardware.

And that's just – that's really neat.

Apple is an interesting company because unlike many companies that are very siloed, you know, I'm the person that works at Samsung that works on dishwashers.

And I'm the person at Samsung that works on chips.

You know, Apple has always been very fluid.

I mean, a perfect example of that is one of the announcements this week was that Phil Schiller,

who is one of the of all of the executives at Apple, he's now been there about the longest.

Phil Schiller started around like 1987, 1988, something like that.

So he's been around for so many things over the years.

And for a long time, he had been the head of marketing at Apple.

And so you might think in other companies, a marketing head would just be like talking to newspapers or TV, you know, talking to the media.

But that's not the way that marketing was at Apple.

The person marketing at Apple touched everything else because they all sort of work with each other.

And a perfect example of that is if you think about the iPod, to go back in times, one of the most iconic things of the original iPod was the click wheel, right?

I mean, that was that we always think about that, even though subsequent iPods got away from it.

that was Phil Schiller's idea. And so you might think like a hardware product person would come

up with an idea that no. So my point is that different executives crossover. So if you bring

yourself to John Ternus, he has been at the company for, you know, since the 90s, a long time.

So he has a long history. So on the one hand, he has been in the hardware side. And so it's perhaps,

you know, one of our, you know, Apple has amazing software and stuff like that, but their hardware

has always been so good. And that's sort of one of the things that, you know, has set them apart

for so many years, especially with the iPhone.

And so he's going to have a deep appreciation

and understanding for that.

And yet, because there's such cross-pollination,

it's not like he doesn't understand Apple software.

It's not like he doesn't understand AI.

In fact, I'm sure he's been frustrated

that some of the products that he has wanted to bring out,

like for example, that one of the rumored things

for next week is maybe something for the home.

You know, the rumor is that Apple was ready to have

and, you know, a device with a screen on it

that would be like a speaker with a screen

And yet they couldn't do it because that depended upon AI so that you could talk to it and have it talk back to you.

And Apple's AI just hasn't been up to snuff until right now, where we're about to get that next week when the new version of Siri AI and everything else comes out.

So my point is just that it's an exciting time for him that it makes me hopeful.

And this is one of the things that Mike Hurley says, that we will see just a little bit more of a hardware spark.

Not that I am upset about the Tim Cook legacy because many big products have come out.

Many hardware products came out under Tim Cook, like the Apple Watch and the Vision Pro and stuff like that.

And yet we all think of Steve Jobs as being, you know, that was one of the things that was part of his special sauce was that he could see new hardware products and hope to decide, you know, no, no, no for these, but yes for this one.

So it would be fun to have the next 10 years of Apple be cool new hardware.

And John Ternus has the pedigree to get there.

So that was one of the points that Mike makes in this post is that he has a background in it and that when they drafted the few couple of sentences on that executive profile page that you were just showing, they made the conscious decision to have one of those sentences be, what is the sentence?

John has overseen hardware engineering work on a variety of groundbreaking products and was instrumental in the introduction of multiple new product lines.

That was a specific sentence put there to let people know, hey, this is a hardware guy.

He does exciting stuff, and now he's in charge.

you know yeah i'm just gonna say i don't want to take anything away from the software side because

we have seen time and time again of course that even the prettiest hardware can fall flat on their

face if you don't have the software support oh yeah so i just wanted to make sure that everybody

knows like we're not just focusing on the hardware side for the sake of hardware we like the shiny

new gadgets just like anybody else but it is so instrumental i'm glad you made some of those points

there to make sure that you've got that software that can support it.

And today it's not just the software side. To me,

it's also having the services that can support all of that as well.

Cause even that home pod mini that we keep,

we've been talking about for so long, it's going to look glorious.

I'm sure once and ever, if it ever comes out,

but if you don't have the Siri AI set up,

if you don't have the software set up that it can be easy interaction,

then it's just going to fall flat on its face. So I just wanted,

I just wanted to leave us, you know, with that.

It's like, we're not trying to poo poo on the software side.

That just doesn't maybe get as exciting sometimes as it does when we see a new hardware device come out.

But it's all good.

It all has to work together.

And of course, that's always talking about Apple secret sauce.

That's always what Apple has done, right?

They've done both the hardware and the software side.

And they've been able to control that so much as opposed to, you know, possibly Windows or some of the other aspects.

The other two things that I thought were interesting in Mike's post is like he pulled out two other things that Apple had chose to include in there.

And, you know, of all the different things you could say, what's interesting, and I think Mike's right in this, is it's there's a million different ways you could go.

But the fact that they chose these meant that they thought that was important.

And one of them they chose was to talk about Apple's reliability, like hardware products that really work and that last a long time, which is an interesting thing to say.

I mean, we've had the luxury of having Apple hasn't really had a huge reliability issue

for so long.

You know, we don't have iPhones that, you know, blow up in your hands every day or anything

like that.

And that doesn't just happen.

I mean, that happens because there's a focus on it.

And so you want things that are reliable and that are long lasting so that you feel like

if you buy an Apple product, you might want the shiny new thing every year.

But you'd like to know that if you wanted to keep using this MacBook for a long time,

that will be fine.

And so that's good.

And then the other thing they focused on was that coming up with, you know, materials and innovations to reduce the footprint of its products, i.e. the environmental impact.

And which is good, especially in this day and age where, you know, some people are moving away from that.

It's nice that Apple is like, you know, we are focused on, you know, being carbon neutral.

And, you know, we understand that some of our technology uses rare earth minerals, but we try to recycle.

And, you know, so, again, they chose to make that something that they mentioned.

And so to me, it means that a lot of the things that makes us respect Apple, because not only

is it a company that makes good hardware and good software, but that it respects its place

in the world and the footprint that the company leads.

I just feel better buying an Apple product, knowing that they're going to be more conscious

of this.

And so the fact that they chose of all the millions of things that they could have put

in there, that they put in there, it makes you, I have to think that John Ternus himself,

you know, had the, maybe somebody from marketing drafted this, but he's the one that gave it

the final thumbs up and he thought this was important.

So maybe that gives us a little bit of insight into the things that will matter to him as a CEO.

We'll see.

Every time I see Carbon Footprint with Apple, I think of that commercial that they made with the Mother Nature and Jim Cook.

What's that actress's name?

She's in that Will Ferrell Christmas movie I remember.

You think John Ternus will do some of those commercials as well, Jeff?

I don't know.

I mean, on the one hand, you're like, maybe not.

It's too silly.

But on the other hand, we just had in the news last week that – or maybe it was – I can't remember if it was after we had our last podcast or since then.

But there's that video that went around of the Pokemon walking around the – Pikachu walking around the –

Oh, yeah. They were shaking hands.

You know, that he was shaking hands.

Tim Cook plucked an apple and gave it to the Pokemon character.

That's right.

John Tartus is not above being a little silly to do something fun, which actually sort of brings us into – so next week we're going to have the Apple announcement on the night.

Yes.

And it's going to be a video.

sometimes for these videos, Apple just jumps right into it. And then other times they start the event

with like something sort of like a silly video, you know, sometimes they, it's something that's

a little over top, almost like a, um, like a, like a comedy sketch. And then other times it's just

like a music thing. I am very curious how Apple will start on Wednesday because like, this is an

example of something that John Ternus ultimately made the decision. This is his first event. It's

set the stone does he decide i want to be really serious does he decide i want to be silly i'm i

feel like he won't do the silly approach i don't think he'll be jumping out of planes like they had

one of them a couple of years ago but then again i don't know and it will just be you know it will

be interesting because it will tell us something about the tone that he wants to set so that's

going to be an interesting thing how will it start i can't wait to find out and then and then again

And what will they announce?

He could be driving around in an F1 car.

You remember that?

That was Craig Frederick.

That was one of them.

Exactly.

Air Force One driving around in an F1 car around the Apple Cupertino loop.

Okay.

There are all sorts of ways they could go.

Yeah.

There are all sorts of ways they could go.

And this will be interesting because it'll be a conscious decision.

And then, because you know they had meetings to talk about this.

Of course.

How do you want to do it?

Do you want something silly?

Do you want something funny?

Do you want something musical?

Do you want something?

Do you want to just jump right into it?

I don't know.

What do you want, John?

What are we going to do?

And then most of these Apple announcements tend to have three acts to them.

They don't have to, but that's what they tend to do.

Yeah.

And I think that that's why they announced the new Mac minis about two weeks ago is because

they didn't want that to be one of the three acts, but they wanted to get those out there.

And so if I'm right, that there's going to be three things, you know, the rumors and

everything else, you know, we think it's going to be the folding, you know, the new iPhones

for sure.

Part of which would be the folding iPhones.

But I have a question is, what's going to be the features of the folding iPhones?

What will it leave out?

What will it include?

What will be cool?

Even though we've seen folding smartphones on the Android side for a few years, what will Apple spin be on this?

What will Apple do that then everybody else in the industry will be like, oh, yeah, that's how these things should be done.

That's how we're going to do it from now on.

So that's going to be totally interesting.

Of the other two, I would think maybe Apple Watch would be one of them.

And I would think that maybe these new HomePods, the home devices.

But what is that going to mean?

Is it going to be a HomePod with a screen?

Is it going to be an Apple-branded home video camera?

Is it going to be – I don't know what it's going to be.

Is it going to be something that you hang on your wall that you can sort of talk to?

I presume it's going to use AI.

So that's my guess as to what the three categories will be.

But we really don't know.

I mean, anything is possible.

And you can't tell from the rumors.

And then one last thing I'll talk, and maybe this goes to more about the stagecraft, but

Apple for years, going back to Steve Jobs, has had that magic line, one more thing.

And they don't use it every time.

No.

They try to be conservative in rolling it out.

Could Ternus bring it back?

Yeah.

Some of the one more things have been more significant.

Things that truly were like a big thing, like the Vision Pro, something truly different.

Sure.

And then some of the one more things have been less impressive.

of like there was one year that I think, I think maybe Apple music was the one more thing.

I mean, I guess that's something new, but you can argue.

So will John Ternus use the line and bring it back?

Will he use it on my guess is it would be on the folding iPhone, right?

Because that would be the idea.

I would think so.

Quintessential Apple.

One more thing is that something a little bit special.

And this would be a new type of iPhone, even though I'm not sure it's one that I would

want to get, but maybe who knows against how special it is.

So anyway, even though we have rumors, there's just so much to think about, about what it's going to be.

And the idea that it's just a few nights away.

I mean, September 9th, today's the 4th.

It's going to be just a few days away.

We're going to find out the answers.

Jeff, could the new AirPods be an act, one of those?

It could be.

We've been seeing things like with AirPods, at least just going to AirPods 5, right, or 4, or whatever it is.

But then the rumors have had them including a camera in them, of all things.

Yeah.

And we talked about this, that that rumor came out that there was going to be a camera, not a camera to take pictures, but just a camera to sense the world around you so they can talk to you.

And again, it's more than a rumor because somebody, you know, Apple had mistakenly leaked one of their videos that they would – like it was a how-to video on it.

So we know it's in development.

The latest rumors from Mark Gurman, who sometimes knows what he's talking about, is that that's actually more for next year.

So that maybe Apple would have new regular AirPods, like, you know, AirPods without the Pro at the end of the name.

Yeah, just the next iteration.

That could come out soon, and I guess it could be announced maybe alongside the iPhone or something like that.

Or maybe Mark Gurman is wrong about the date.

Maybe that will be one of the three things.

Maybe we won't see the home products.

Maybe we'll see new AirPods.

Maybe they'll have four pillars instead of three pillars, as I predicted.

So many questions.

We'll get back to some of these things and talk about some of the other stories you'll link to, I think, is good to kind of set us up for next week, maybe as well as iOS 27.

But something very important I would like to spotlight because you do that.

You've been doing this now for what, four or five years, I think.

Jeff, you support.

It is basically St. Jude's, right?

And every year they do a fundraiser for children's research.

I'll let you speak to it a little bit more.

I remember this.

The Relay podcast always does a fantastic job of supporting this because is it?

Stephen Hackett, thank you.

His son, I know, went through that.

And he's just been very transparent and reading and talking about, you know, the what they went through and their experience.

And so he's always supported this.

But giving to this, putting some kind of a donation is good.

But then you up the game as well.

If you do $100, Jeff, you're even throwing something in special for readers of iPhone JD.

Yeah, thanks for including this in the lineup today, Brett.

I appreciate it because, you know, this is a good, you know, we all like to do some good

in the world.

And so, and there's a million people that are asking you to donate.

And I know it's tough for people to decide which ones you go to, but I think this is

a good one because, you know, childhood can't, I mean, cancer is so horrible.

Every one of us that had cancer affects somebody in our family.

And as horrible as it was for, I mean, I lost my mom to cancer and my grandpa, you know,

so many people have lost cancer and it's horrible, but at least you can say when somebody passes

away from cancer, when they're in their 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, you can say, well, they lived

a good life and all the good things they have. Childhood cancer, I mean, come on, that's the

worst. And so when you hear people like Stephen Hackett tell the story about how his son, when he

was very, very little, had cancer and went to St. Jude in Memphis and now is like 17, 18 years old

and starting life and how wonderful. And I love that when St. Jude started, like 80% of kids that

had cancer, it was an immediate death sentence. And now that's reversed. Now 80% of them can go on.

And a big part of that is because of the research that St. Jude does.

St. Jude is a treating hospital, but they also do a lot of research.

So you can go to Memphis for free, no cost to the family, but they also do all of this

research that helps people literally around the world.

So it's not just a Memphis thing.

It's a worldwide thing.

And it's been around for so many decades.

It's, I mean, of all the causes out there, there's no better one here.

So I love that about was maybe eight years ago, the Relay folks decided, let's do a fundraiser

every year.

And then a couple of years ago, like, well, let's have other people be a part of the fundraiser.

So I jumped on board.

And so I really encourage if I know a lot of people are asking people to give money, but I would encourage you to go ahead and, you know, whether it's five bucks or if you do a hundred bucks, you'll get one of those iPhone JD cleaning cloths.

I think I have like 15 of them left or 20 of them left.

I don't have many.

That's it?

But, you know, it's running down.

They're fantastic, though.

I use them all the time.

I've got one next to me.

Me too.

So they're really nice.

So if that gives you an incentive to give $100 instead of $50.

But, you know, if you're listening to this, you clearly care.

You know, you're a person that cares and you're a nice person.

So I know many people are asking you to give money for things, but just consider donating

a little bit for this.

And it's a really good occasion.

And this is exciting because over the years, Relay has added millions of dollars.

And I am confident that this year, that was what I was going to mention.

There's no question in my mind that this calendar year, they're going to cross over $5 million.

And isn't that amazing?

Just a bunch of people who have an interest in technology, who listen to podcasts and read web.

Basically, everybody listening to our words right now, you are one of these people.

And the idea that all of us come together and over a couple of years come up with $5 million, I mean, that's seriously advancing the cause of childhood cancer.

So, again, thank you for listening to this and letting me talk about it, Brett.

I would encourage everybody to give.

And if you just want to give $5, $10, I don't care.

But if you give $100, you'll get a cool little iPhone J thing.

And if you want to give more than that, that's fine too.

But just click the link, make a donation,

and you're going to feel good about yourself

and you're going to put some good into the world.

It's a win-win.

I will make sure the link is in the show notes.

You can also go to Relay.

But I would say just go through Jeff's link here.

You posted about it on September 1st.

And September is Childhood Cancer Awareness Month.

That's the reason, by the way.

I just think it's great that you throw it.

I still have my cleaning cloth.

I think it's downstairs because we all use it.

or actually it stays in my briefcase because this is what I use when I travel.

And then you had a neat little video at the end of the post today.

I thought this would be a great place to put it up in here as well.

This is only like a 30 second little video from Apple to where Amanda is this lady's name.

She was diagnosed with a very rare form of leukemia,

but the way that she went to the doctor initially was because she was getting some announcements on her Apple watch

about an irregular heart rate or some kind of a heart rate.

Anyway, her Apple Watch was alerting her

and that's when she found it out.

And I just thought that was a nice kind of a tie-in

to this as well.

It is.

And it also makes me think about next week

because when the new Apple Watch,

assuming that Apple announces a new Apple Watch next week,

which I think there's a high chance they will do so,

what is going to be new about it?

Is it just going to be like a minor refresh

or is it going to have like a new sensor in it?

It's always interesting to me when Apple has a new sensor,

but one of the rumors that's out there

is that it might do even more constant monitoring of, you know, blood flow and all that sort of

stuff. And so the, um, the types of things that it picked up for this woman here that led her to go

to the doctor and find out earlier that she had leukemia and thus get it treated. And here she is,

you know, you know, feeling good today because the treatment was successful.

She always said early, early detection of cancer is so incredibly important. Um, but at the same

time, you don't want to have false positives and false negatives and stuff like that. So it's nice

when you have like a little device that can be watching you all the time. So it would be nice if

that's one of the changes that Apple comes out with next week is to have more sensors in there.

You know, we doesn't matter what age you are, you want to keep an eye on these things. But especially

for those of us, I mean, like me, I'm in mid 50s, you know, you're starting to get to the point

where things can be happening. And you really you want to have somebody looking over your shoulder

and looking out for you. And how wonderful that the Apple Watch can do that.

Let's get back to talking about a few things maybe that I just, there was three or four

stories that you linked to today that made me think about next week and maybe some of

the things that are underlying here.

The first is a great review from Dan Barbera at Mac Rumors on the iPhone Air.

I get the sense we don't, you and I don't talk about the iPhone Air all that much.

We mentioned it, it's over there.

But I really enjoyed listening to this video here from Dan because first of all, the iPhone

iPhone Air is not his primary phone.

I think he's got an iPhone 17 Pro, I believe.

But he just talked about the fact that he's got this Air.

He's been using it over this last year, picking it up,

and just the differences in the weight,

the fact that it is such a streamlined device.

And again, this, and then we're also going to talk about the iPad Mini here

just a little bit because I feel like between the iPhone Air

and the iPad Mini, again, something we don't talk about just a whole lot,

but I feel like through that, we could maybe kind of see

So that's definitely got to be some of the technology that would be built into whatever

this iPhone foldable ultra device is going to be.

One of the rumors, as you just said, is that this foldable iPhone next week is going to

be called the iPhone ultra.

And we'll find out.

I mean, it's a marketing decision, right?

Apple can do whatever they want.

But one of the reasons that you might say that's not an appropriate name is because one

might say that the word ultra should mean the most.

Like, for example, look at the watch that's on your wrist.

You have the Apple Watch Ultra, right?

I do.

And the Apple Watch Ultra has the most features.

It's got the most battery life.

It's got the most space.

It's got the extra action button.

It's got everything.

Now, even there, you do have some compromise because the reason that I don't wear an Apple

Watch Ultra is because it's a little bit more bulky and I prefer something thinner.

So again, but more or less, the Ultra has everything.

So likewise, when Apple comes out with a foldable iPhone, if they do call it the iPhone Ultra,

which is one of the rumors, will that be the appropriate name?

Because will it have the most features or will it have so many compromises that maybe it's not the best one to get?

Because the rumor is that because the phone, because this foldable iPhone is going to fold in half,

it means that when it's unfolded, those halves have to be really thin.

And because they're going to be so thin, maybe it means it won't have the battery life that a regular iPhone has.

Maybe it means that it's not going to have the great cameras.

You know, for example, the iPhone Air, which is what we're talking about here, doesn't have

the great cameras.

And so the question is going to be to get the advantage of a foldable iPhone.

What are the compromises that you have to live with?

And do those compromises take away from it being the best iPhone, you know, the ultra

version of the iPhone?

I don't know.

So back to the iPhone Air, this was the iPhone Air originally came out.

Well, I got about a year ago.

He's had it for a year.

And the issue was it had that key advantage of being so thin and light.

I presume at some point in the last year, Brett, you must have had an opportunity to walk into an Apple store and actually hold it in your hand.

Yeah.

And when you pick it up.

It makes me mad.

It makes me mad how light it is.

It reminds me of those old iPod Nanos that were so thin.

Exactly.

There's nothing to this.

And it's so delightful to have something, which is what Dan says, too, that it's just delightful to hold this in your hand.

But then the decision you have to make for yourself is, is that so important?

Is the thinness and the lightness so important that I will accept the compromises?

And so as he says in the video, there's been pros and cons.

So it's interesting to have his perspective after a year of iPhone Air.

But as you led with, it's most interesting to me because these are the decisions people are going to have to make starting on September 9th of whatever whiz-bang new features you get with a foldable iPhone, the most obvious of which being that it can unfold and be something sort of like a little iPad.

Is it worth the compromises?

And right now, a couple of days out, I'm thinking that for me, it won't be and that I will not get the folding iPhone.

But who knows?

It might be that Apple has found a way to minimize the compromises such that I will be clicking the order button on September 9th for a foldable iPhone.

I don't know.

I mean, it's going to be interesting.

Pre-order button.

I thought this was a nice story at 512pixels.com or.net also about the past and the future of the iPad mini.

I just like the way that he laid it out here because it's kind of a walkthrough.

I mean, even to the point where he's like, the iPad mini was on sale for four years from September 2015 until March 2019.

And in that time, Apple released, I don't even know how many bullet points are here.

In other words, that the iPad mini wasn't getting the love that some people thought that it should give.

And I think there was another link I feel like maybe to or maybe he goes in here with with John Gruber talking about, you know, how how it came out.

But this comes back into my mind just because it wasn't 2021.

Right. That they released an update to it or maybe not even more recently than that, at least just with a chip or something that Apple hasn't let it die.

It's still there. You can still get an iPad mini. I can imagine that it would sell very many of them. But I think it was that form that that that that that that that form side, because just even the fact we had these big iPads from the very beginning.

And when that iPad mini came out in a similar function, the way that we were talking about with picking up an iPad Air, I remember what it was like to hold an iPad mini in one hand.

And that was mind blowing back then that I could have that screen in my hand.

Now, that was many years ago.

And I loved my iPad mini.

I just couldn't find enough functionality to keep using it throughout the day.

Right.

I didn't want it just as like a Kindle replacement, which is what most people I think did with that.

But now it comes back from that form function.

Is that like the size of an iPhone?

Is that what it's going to be?

Maybe from landscape or maybe from portrait or maybe both.

And the idea that if we can take some of that thinness and all the technology we've learned from the iPhone Air and mix it with the iPad mini, that gets me a little more excited.

Yeah.

This is a post by Stephen Hackett, the person we were just talking about, who is the co-founder of the Relay FM network.

And it was his son that went to St. Jude years ago and is doing well now.

So Stephen Hackett, one of the things that he is known for is being a bit of an Apple historian.

He loves to go back in time and talk about Apple histories from the past.

And so it's fun that when he talks about the iPad mini, he doesn't just talk about what the current version has.

He goes through, as you said, the whole history of when it first came out.

And I had one of those first iPad minis.

I forget if I had the first one or the iPad mini too, but whichever one it was, it was just such, it was like this little light Kindle in your hand.

It was so light and small and yet it had all the power of an iPad.

It was a really fun device that I enjoyed using.

And so then there was a time period where it was exciting.

And then there was what he called the wilderness years, he just said, where nothing happened for years and years and years.

And then Apple came back to it.

And I know that for some people that iPad mini size is perfect.

And so I'm glad that it's still a product that Apple offers and is, you know, a new enough version.

And maybe they'll update it again soon to, you know, have all the newest AI stuff and things like that.

But it's a beloved, it's a niche product, but it's a beloved product.

But as you say, just like that iPhone Air we were just talking about, it makes you think about, you know, the size of an iPad mini, which is not that big.

How is that going to compare to the size of an unfolded folding iPhone?

You got to think they're going to be pretty close.

And then it's interesting, too, because an iPad mini can use an Apple stylus.

At least I'm pretty sure it can.

Whereas a unfolding iPhone, is it going to support a stylus at all?

Maybe not.

I don't know.

Well, the iPad mini can use the iPad interface, which is designed for something as big as an

iPad Pro, you know, the 14-inch, whatever, that you can have multiple apps running side

by side.

I presume that a folding iPhone is going to have some of that same technology to allow side-by-side apps.

I don't know.

Is it going to be the exact same operating system that we use on the iPad?

Or is it going to be some hybrid that's closer to the iPhone?

Yeah.

The more I speculate about what we're going to hear about on the 9th, which I know is just around the corner,

I can't help but think about the iPad Mini quite a bit.

I have confirmed the 7th generation iPad Mini.

I was looking to see when that was released.

support the Apple Pencil.

The earlier models have supported

the other versions of the Apple

Pencil, but the current Apple Pencil

is supported in the seventh

generation, which I can't bring up exactly

when that was released. But again, I think

that was just maybe a minor bump.

I seem to remember that just a couple

of years ago or so, there was a little

minor bump on there.

Oh, October 2024 was when the

seventh generation, which includes that

A17 Pro

processor in there.

Right. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Well, we talked about the hardware aspects and there's so much

more we could be talking about obviously for next week, but we only have a few days left to,

to get ready for it. Let's quickly go through some of the things we're looking for in iOS 27,

because along with that hardware, we expect next week, Apple will have some kind of a final date

as to when iOS 27 will be out and available as well. Yeah. So on September 9th, I expect Apple to say

iOS 27 will be available on blank.

And my guess is it's probably going to be that following week, Monday or Tuesday.

So I'm looking at my calendar.

It's probably going to be the 14th or 15th.

But again, it could be earlier.

We'll see.

But we are certainly less than two weeks away, I believe, from everybody being able to install

iOS 27 on their phone.

And we've been talking about it all summer, Brett, through the beta versions that have

been out ever since WWDC in June.

And the two things I included this week was there was a post that somebody was talking

the mail feature because the new version of Siri is going to be able to look at everything

on your phone.

It means that it has to have a really good index of your phone.

And so one of the side benefits of that is that the search feature in the mail app, which

has been, you know, just okay lately, it's going to be supposedly much, much better.

And the people running the beta say that too.

So that was one of the things that they talked about was that, which is sort of cool.

And then another one that was sort of off the radar screen until recently is John Gruber

pointed out that it's got iOS 27 will support a feature of having two different iPhones that share

the same phone number, which is something we've seen before, right? Because my Apple watch

technically has its own phone number, but my Apple watch and my iPhone can share the same phone

number so that if I am like out and out with, and I don't have my iPhone with me, my Apple watch will

ring. And so that same technology for people that will have two iPhones, maybe you get this new

folding iPhone, but you don't want to use it all the time. Sometimes you want to have something else

because it's got a better camera, or sometimes you might want to have an iPhone air because it's much

thinner. And so this would be a cool, interesting feature that I could see being useful for a lot of

people. I don't know how many though, Jeff, how many of us have multiple iPhones? Again, I say

that I know a lot of business people today, depending on where, you know, focus business,

you have a personal and you've got a, you've got a business one. And I understand that,

But even John Gruber here, this sounds amazing for those of us who use multiple iPhones.

It's not that unusual.

He talked about developers, which, you know, you need multiple devices or new phone reviewers such as John Gruber.

Like, it seemed like that it would make sense for him on that.

Okay.

Announcements I don't expect to see next week, though, Jeff, is maybe too much to do with the Apple Vision Pro.

Maybe I could be wrong.

I just don't think that there's going to be a whole lot in there.

But that doesn't mean Apple isn't doing things to continue to improve the experience with the Vision Pro.

You mentioned a few weeks ago that you were going to be able to watch a Major League Baseball game on the Apple Vision Pro.

And that has happened now.

And you, along with a few other folks like Don Gruber and Jason Snell, thought that the experience was pretty amazing.

They did a fantastic job with it.

And I know that there are some people that listen to the podcast that have a vision pro because I hear from you all from time to time.

I know that most people don't because it's so expensive and you don't own one, Brett.

I understand that.

But this is definitely the future.

You know, we're going to have more and more of this.

So I love that Apple is playing around with the technology.

As, you know, immersive video is so incredible because you feel like you're somewhere else.

You're transported somewhere else.

And that's amazing.

But immersive live video, as John Gruber pointed out in his posts, there's just something magical about it.

Because it's like, I'm there as it happens.

And there's that sense of you never know what's going to happen when it's live.

Even if it's something like a Broadway play, which they've done a million times, things

can happen.

There's just something about being someplace live that just changes it.

And so when Apple had their live basketball games, that was exciting because you could

get right there court side seats that you could never afford.

And here we are again.

But I think that they have learned a lot because the basketball game, one of the things that some people did not like was that the camera angle would jump around, which is totally fine if you're watching TV, like a 2D TV.

We all expect the camera angle to jump around.

But in an immersive environment, if you move around too much, it can be a little nausea-inducing because it's like you've just settled into this is my perspective and suddenly my perspective changes.

And so in the baseball game last Friday night, which was totally fun to watch, they did not move the camera angle that much.

And it was a conscious decision.

And it really worked.

It was really cool.

But again, that camera angle is amazing, Brett, because you're down there.

It's something that you don't even see if you're watching live a TV game.

You're right there in the dugout or just in front of the dugout.

And so you're just sitting there on the side of the – I feel like I'm watching one of my kids play baseball.

and I'm just, you know, was standing right there, you know, close to it and watching it all happen.

I was there, but instead of watching my kids play baseball at the local playground,

I'm at Yankee fricking stadium. You know, this is beautiful. And I haven't, I haven't been to the

Yankee stadium. As I mentioned in my post, I went to the old one once, but it's a beautiful stadium.

It's such a, you know, such a, you know, iconic venue, but like I'm there. And like, just as if

you were actually at the baseball game, there are times when I'm very intently watching the pitcher

and the batter and stuff like that, or the people in the outfield.

But there are other times where I'm just like looking around the stadium and like it starts

out and it's sunny and then the sun sets and then, you know, it's dark and I can see the

moon rising over there.

And it was just, you just have that experience.

And Apple did an amazing job with the sound.

I didn't mention this in my post, but like you totally felt like it was the actual sounds

of the stadium all around you.

It was just a delightful way to watch a baseball game.

And again, much like I'm not a huge basketball fan, I'm not a huge baseball fan.

So it's I would never have gone out of my way to watch a Friday night baseball game.

Right.

For the fact that it was my vision pro.

But it was just so impressive.

But I actually went back this week.

Not only did Apple broadcast it live, but they put together like a highlight reel that was

10 minutes long.

And I watched the entire in spatial video.

And I watched it again because, you know, I wanted to once again experience like there

was only one home run in that game.

But there was a lot of exciting things.

there were so many, the Yankees won the game, but there were so many times that the Red Sox,

like, had the bases loaded, they could have won, but then they didn't get there. And so there was

a lot of excitement, and, like, it was just so cool to be there. So I'm glad that they're doing this.

I'm glad they have more games coming. There's another one tonight. And again, I want to have

more of this. I want live concerts. I want live theater. This is totally the future. And then,

go ahead. Well, you talked about the fact that they didn't change the angle of the camera, but,

I mean, I didn't watch this, but I can imagine like you are sitting there and you can look around.

Right. So basically you could change the angle of the camera.

I mean, I realize that it's fixed from your position, but that's no different than if you were sitting in a seat.

Right. That you could just look around and you could take all of that in.

So, you know, we talk about the camera angles and if there's more.

But I don't know that you need other camera angles.

I mean, I guess I understand that if you know that you're going to be put, you know,

But that would be like if you were in the stadium and you were jumping to another section or something.

I don't know.

It's like this tells me these are things we need to think about from a different perspective, a different angle,

because there may not need to be a necessary different camera angles when we're talking about something like the Apple Vision Pro.

Anyway, just what you're thinking about that.

And the only way to learn it, Brett, is to do it.

That's why Apple has to try these things so they can see what works.

And again, it's not like you didn't change the camera angle because, for example, when they would do a replay,

of like the big plays, well, then they would show the perspective from like, you know,

a camera that was in the outfield so that you can see the guy catching the fly ball.

Or in the one home run, it was really fun because when the guy had the home run, when

they did the replay, you were in, you were just in front of the outfield.

And so like, I'm looking up in the sky above me and I'm watching the baseball go over my

head.

That's cool.

Just as if I was somebody in the stands watching it and cheering.

And that was so cool.

So they did have some protective.

And then of course they had some, you know, during, between innings, they,

You know, you were down in the field sometimes and stuff.

So they did change the camera angle when it was appropriate.

One more thing I want to mention that they did such a good job of is if you've ever had

an opportunity to go like to a suite or something like that at a sporting event, then you know

that, you know, it's great because you have great seats and you're right there.

But sometimes you want to see something that you just can't see from where you're sitting.

And so or even if you're not in a suite, even if you're just sitting in the stands, what

do you do?

You look up at the jumbotron, right?

Because then they have the screen.

And so what Apple did there, there isn't really, I mean, there's a screen at the end of Yankee

stadium, but there's certainly not, you know, a jumbotron on top of you because there's no

roof on Yankee stadium.

But what they did, what Apple did was they had like a virtual jumbotron.

Oh yeah.

Here's a picture from.

And so while you're watching the game, it was really cool because if I wanted to, well,

this picture is perfect because if I wanted to look around, I could do it.

But if I wanted to get a closeup view of the face of the batter, I could just glance up

and I could see that screen.

And so it's the best of both worlds.

You could watch the regular broadcast, which has a million cameras, or you can just watch

the game.

So like, this is the way, this is the way to do it.

And this is how they should do more live events like this.

Apple also has the right to, uh, to major league soccer, right?

And they have yet, they have not yet done immersive for soccer.

And it's going to be interesting because a soccer field is so large that if you have a

virtual experience you know the farther away things are the harder it is to see because the

limitations of technology and so um they're going to have to do the same thing i think they're going

to have to have like a virtual jumbotron and that would be a good way to do it so anyway i could

talk about this for it's just so fascinating one of the maybe it was this author here justin ryan

talked about the fact that it was close to the on bat circle and he had to duck at one point oh yeah

the uh the the the next player up was like swinging his bat practicing right next to you

right next to your face and you just kind of got a little crazy and then the other comment that i

liked about from john gruber he's like the only you know he talked about the audio he talked about

the video obviously he's like the only thing that was missing was the smells right it's like the

smell of like you know a spilled beer and cheap hot dogs and peanuts it's like hey somehow apple's

going to have to do a smell of vision in there as well at some point uh before we get off the vision

pro just real quick this was another great story you link to we've talked about this on several

aspects of surgeons using a vision pro to conduct surgeries that just them to do so much more or i

guess i would almost say it it allows them to not have to straighten their neck as much because

they're always looking at multiple, you know, videos or images or, or, you know, recordings

that's going on.

And now they can do this all up and up in there.

And this is a picture of one of these here.

I forget what the name of this company was, but I just, again, I'm just fascinated by

this, that the vision pro can be something so incredibly insightful and useful from a

healthcare perspective.

So many doctors, so many surgeons use, you know, they often call them robots.

They're not really robots because you're remotely controlling them.

But instead of the doctor doing the scalpel, but like a lot of the little stuff is being

done by, you know, some little nano size thing and you're controlling it through screens

and you don't even have to be a surgeon.

I mean, one of my brothers is an OBGYN and there are some, you know, surgical procedures

that he does for his patients where he uses these robots.

I think there's one called like the Da Vinci robot that OBGYNs use and stuff like that.

And so the idea of you're looking at a screen and you're basically using, you know, fancy

joysticks to perform surgery. This is the cutting edge of technology. And so if you're going to be

doing that, instead of being limited to just that one screen in front of you, that's so incredibly

expensive, why not have screens everywhere that can dynamically change because you're looking at

screens anyway. And so it makes total sense. And so that's why we talked about this a couple of

months ago when it was one type of surgery. This is a, what kind of surgery was this one? This was a

hip anthroscopy. There you go. And so it just totally makes sense to me that

Much like for the last, I'm going to say, what, 10 years, whatever, the surgeon use of what they often call the robots has become so much more prevalent.

And you're getting such better medical care because they have this.

This is just the natural movement of this is have the Vision Pro so that the screens can be as big as you want.

Look at that.

And wherever you want to be, this is really cool.

So it's cool.

It's in these shoes, but it's cool.

If you're looking at the video, you can see what I'm talking about.

It allows them to look at the x-rays that were taken before, you know, from a multiple different angles, as opposed to having to like stop what they're doing, you know, and freeze and then turn their head or something like that.

They can have all of these in one spot.

Anyway, I'm just continuing to be fascinated with how the Vision Pro can be useful in such a very practical situation there.

Let's move on a couple of other stories you had.

If you're in Oklahoma, then you are okay to use your digital driver's license now.

Uh, I just, we always like to mention when additional States come on board that you can add your digital driver's license inside your Apple wallet app.

Um, I think I've reported that I was going through, oh, I can't remember the airport that I, that I went through.

Oh, I think it was in Syracuse and that I was able to finally use my digital license on that.

Uh, last week, Jeff, I'll tell you, I went through the Memphis airport.

Now, again, they didn't have clear cause sometimes I'll use the clear lane and I don't have to pull out my ID.

Right.

But in Memphis, they didn't have a clear lane.

And so I was able to go through the TSA pre.

And of course, I had to present my digital ID.

Now, I will say, the TSA agent knew exactly what I was doing.

And he was like, oh, yeah, go ahead and tap it there.

It didn't work.

Now, it didn't work, not because of the technology in this case.

In fact, eventually, after three times trying it with my digital tapping, I had to get out my physical ID.

and it still didn't work.

And so his comment was,

well, apparently he doesn't like the state of Ohio right now.

So it wasn't the technology side.

It was the fact of somehow TSA and Ohio

apparently are not seeing eye to eye.

I don't know what it was.

He had to actually go through

and give me a whole thing to get me through.

But the point was,

is that it was supposed to be working

and he knew about it.

And I'm just thrilled that more and more people

are knowing about it.

Now, that's the only real application of this

that I think I've seen.

I don't think if I were stopped by a police officer, you know, speeding that he would accept a digital ID from my Apple wallet.

Maybe he would. I don't know.

But I feel like that at least right now, the flying and the TSA check is the main place where this can be useful.

Yeah, well, you know, Ohio is not OK.

Ohio is just OH.

It's just O.

Oh, oh, we can't use that.

That's on you.

Yeah, just about a week or two ago, my son was in Florida with some friends.

And this is nothing as formal as TSA, but he was just renting some equipment to go like on a kayak or something like that.

And they needed to see his driver's license, which is like, oh, I didn't take it with me today.

But he's like, oh, well, I have – he had a digital version of his driver's license on his phone and he showed that to him and it was good enough.

I mean it was nothing official.

Oh, great.

But it was just the idea.

And that's what I like about it too is if I happen to be driving around and I forgot to pick up my wallet, it doesn't matter.

I have my driver's license with me.

So this post says – I think Joe Rosagnale says that Oklahoma is the 18th state, if I saw that correctly.

Let me see.

Let me go back. Yeah. Yeah. It's right there. The 16th, the 16th state, 16th state.

We talked just a couple of weeks ago, but some of the ones that are supposed to be coming soon,

like I think North Carolina and Mississippi and, or, or maybe, yeah, North Carolina, Utah,

coming out Connecticut, Mississippi coming. Yeah. And I just have to say, again, I know we talk

about this every time this comes up, but I just continue to get excited because this, this will

be the future. We will always be using some of these. We may still have a physical ID,

But I got to say, at least in Ohio, obviously, that's the only place that I've gone through the experience.

It literally connects with the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles.

You have to go through the whole thing.

You take a picture.

It does a beautiful job of walking you through the process.

Again, I can't vouch for all the states doing it this way.

But I would say if that is a possibility, if you're in one of the states, the 16 states now that have this, it is so totally worth it at least to have that information.

Now, quickly, Jeff, I think in Louisiana, you don't have this in the Apple Wallet, but you have a separate app still right now, right?

In Louisiana?

Yeah, we have a separate Louisiana app, but it performs the exact same function.

So I don't open up my Apple Wallet app.

I open up an app called LA Wallet, but it's the same idea.

Okay, very good.

I know we talk a lot about Apple products here more than anything else on this podcast, but I was thrilled to see this interesting little pebble.

I think it's called the Pebble Index.

It's a ring from, I don't, somehow it's connected with Google.

I don't think it's from Google though.

I guess it's Pebble.

Well, Google, the company Pebble is owned by Google.

Owned by Google.

Okay, very good.

A long time ago, they had like a smartwatch before we had an Apple watch.

And Google owns that company.

So yes, it's the Pebble index, I guess, because you would put it on your index finger.

And I linked to it today.

Oh, I didn't think about that.

So many people use large iPhones.

but the first company to make a large smartphone was not Apple.

It was Android, right?

You know, so many people, the first smart watch was not the Apple watch.

It was the Pebble was one of the first big ones.

And so likewise, you know, somebody else is going to try something

and then Apple is going to say, oh, that's an interesting product category.

Let's come out with it too.

So this review of the Pebble index was interesting because he's like,

you know, there's something there because it's just always there on your finger.

It can monitor you.

You know, it's not going to get in your way.

It can actually, I think it shakes or something like that.

It basically taps your finger.

So it can give you a notification in a very discreet way.

Now, again, I would prefer my Apple Watch because it taps me in a discreet way too.

And I can glance down and look at the screen and say, oh, that's an important text message

or, oh, that's just nothing.

I can ignore that for now.

So it's got some drawbacks as well, but it's interesting.

And I have no doubt, you go ahead.

So I have no doubt Apple's thinking about this.

This was interesting to me because most of the time when you think about a ring like this, it's because you're tracking parts of your health, right?

That's what the aura ring.

Oh, you are a I have one of those.

I don't even wear it much anymore because to your point, I'm just happy with what I have on the Apple watch.

But this Pebble index, I didn't think about the index finger.

I thought about it's basically like an index for your life.

In fact, on the Pebble website, they call it external memory for your brain.

And so the idea is that you tap this ring that could be on your index finger.

I guess it could be on any index finger.

But then you can talk and you can make notes.

Basically, you're just capturing pieces of information as you go through the day, which, frankly, I use the Notes app on my phone more than anything else.

In fact, you can use the Notes app on your Apple Watch now.

You can't edit Notes on the Apple Watch, but you can dictate into your Apple Watch, and it will create a note.

And because that notes app is available on my Mac, my iPad, my iPhone, my Apple watch, that's what I actually use all the time.

But I just thought this was interesting just simply because I don't think that this Pebble index is tracking your health of any kind.

Maybe it does a little bit.

But from what I understand, it's really just a way it has a small button and a microphone.

And then you just can dictate notes that you want to take.

It's only $75 as well.

Yeah, my point was that if Apple came out with it, I would think that it would have some health tracking implications.

I would think so too.

There's just all these – I mean, it took a long time before Apple decided the Apple Watch was something they wanted to come out with.

And we know that they're looking at this.

I mean, I'm sure they're looking at rings.

I mean, we just talked a few minutes ago about how they're looking at an updated version of AirPods that would sense the world around you so that it could provide you information.

You know, using technology to provide you with more information about yourself, about the world around you, it's just inevitable.

And so I love that different people are trying this stuff.

And if you want to be an early adopter, spend 75 bucks and see what you think about the Apple Index.

And then eventually, if Apple thinks that there's something in this category, they may come out with something too.

So it's just always interesting to me.

I mean, heck, we just talked about the Vision Pro.

The Vision Pro is basically one of those futuristic products that's not really practical for many reasons now because of the cost.

but it's a peek into the future of what's coming.

Everything about this is interesting to me.

They have a nice little fact down here.

Is a paid subscription required?

No.

Does it do health tracking like the Aura?

Nope.

Does it work with iPhone and Android?

Yes.

Okay, so maybe I could capture notes.

I don't know.

I just thought it was interesting.

I'm glad that you linked to it

just because it's an additional device

that we don't maybe talk about too much.

And one of the other little questions down there was,

Is it always listening?

And the answer was no, it's only listening.

Because this is the thing,

like one of these new categories of devices,

thanks to AI is we talked a month ago

about this thing called the PLOD.

That's like a little credit card type thing

that we can record like a meeting

or something like that.

This idea of, do you want to have technology

that has the ability to record at all times?

And of course there's privacy implications there,

especially for lawyers.

But then because of AI transcription

being so good nowadays,

it can basically, you know, hear everything, transcribe it, and then give you like, again,

back to the word index, this index of what happened during your day, you know, you were

talking to so-and-so and what did you talk about? And that's why it sort of becomes like an extra

brain because it helps you remember things that you may have forgotten in the moment. But if

something else was listening again, it's just like having an assistant with you that's walking around

with you all day long and taking notes. And capturing your thoughts. Yeah. So interesting.

Interesting. Let's end with a quick in the show.

If you have been watching Ted Lasso episodes, like my wife and I have,

in fact, I think she wants to watch this week's tonight,

just because we've been enjoying it. It's almost to the point, Jeff,

where the show isn't even realistic anymore. From my perspective,

it's like an art form of like the Ted Lasso feel good, an hour,

45 minutes, whatever it is. I mean, we watch it and we just,

we just enjoy it so much and just watching it. And it just,

You just walk away of like hope for humanity.

I know that sounds a little hyperbolic, but it's just a little fun.

But if you've been watching the episode, you've probably seen a commercial for a new movie from Apple TV called Mayday stars Ryan Reynolds.

It looks silly, but I'm excited to see it because it looks funny.

And, you know, it's like I think back to the 80s movies that we had, you know, where we're like behind enemy lines with Soviet Russia.

And I think this is sort of where it gets into.

Anyway, it looks like it's going to be fun.

Yeah.

You know, Apple movies have been much more hit and miss than Apple TV shows, which have

been pretty good over the years.

But but every once in a while, they've had a really good movie.

And I was pleased to see, which is what I posted today, that some of the initial reviews

were that this one was actually pretty funny.

And, you know, maybe you have to be the sort of person perhaps that likes the Ryan Reynolds

type comedy.

But I do.

Yeah.

Reynolds can be funny.

And so I'm looking forward to it.

And I thought it was interesting that my my son, who, believe me, does not at all read iPhone J.D. or pay anything attention to me at all.

But he actually sent me a text yesterday saying, oh, I just saw like this Mayday movie.

This might be. Oh, really? To watch together.

So, you know, that's why I say we've got a three day weekend coming up.

This might be something fun to watch. I hope it's good. I hope it's cute.

I'm looking forward to it.

There's a few other movies you mentioned in here that Apple TV added School of Rock.

her which i haven't seen but i wanted to see because and then on the on this at the same time

i don't want to see it because it sounds scary as in like ai is taking over so anyway it may be a

good lesson but most importantly as you as you pointed out ferris bueller's day off that's being

added now you can watch that which if you have been watching some of the ted lasso or last week's

ted lasso episode you might want to go back and get up to speed on the ferris bueller uh information

yeah no spoilers but it was definitely mentioned in the episode and uh and that's a classic movie

we watched it years ago with my kids and you know it's an 80s movie so some of it's dated

but there's certainly so much right that's still funny so you know we talked about this last month

when apple did it too they haven't done this in years and then suddenly they're bringing some old

movies back that you can watch for just a limited period of time i mean these may only be around for

the month of september but um but you know a league of their own speaking of baseball we're talking

about before you know there's there's some fun movies in here and i think there's maybe 15 of

them added. So if you're just looking for something to watch on this three day weekend,

and if you want to go back to a classic or maybe something that you missed, like that movie, Her,

I will tell you, I mean, I saw it when it came out. But it was, I really enjoyed it. And it was

interesting because it makes you think about the implications of everything that you and I have

talked about for the last hour, you know, devices that listen to things that you wear. I mean, it is

all of these topics, much like the movie, you know, you and I have mentioned in the past that

that old Tom Cruise movie, Minority Report,

was just like science fiction in general.

Science fiction in general can often predict

the actual science coming to the future

and can explore some of the themes

and the philosophy and the ethics.

It's a good movie for that.

You know, I got to tell you just real quick,

you brought it up, but Minority Report,

I remember Steven Spielberg was quoted

as he brought in a bunch of futurists

when he was planning that movie.

And one of the things that I remember from that movie

are the car, the automobiles,

which nobody drove.

They were just sort of automated.

And every time I see like this week,

Tesla has been talking about their,

they have to call it the cyber cab or something.

We have Waymo's.

Waymo is another one that are self-driving.

And I know that there are pros and cons on both sides

and people on both sides fighting about different things

about all of that and however your perspective is.

But I can't help but think about that movie

Remind Nowhere to Report

because it was so future looking to the idea

Like there is going to be a world probably when we don't need to be driving as humans.

In fact, it's probably going to be much, much, much safer if we can bring down something like automobile accidents to almost zero percent.

That's a that's a pretty good goal.

Anyway, there's again, there's a lot more layers I know in all of that.

But you just mentioned the minor report.

And it just made I keep thinking back to that movie so often.

And I think it is because Steven Spielberg brought in so many futurists at the time to kind of think about what is it going to look like in 20, 30, 40 years.

I mean, how old is that movie now?

It's probably almost 20 years old by now, which is pretty amazing.

In the know, I'm going to go back 20, 30 years in the past.

Okay.

I came upon this site.

I think this is supposed to represent what computers may have looked like in 1996.

This website is called 56k.rip.

And Jeff, you got to watch the screen here because if you remember Windows 3.X, here is what we are looking at here.

I mean, look at this.

There's even the start menu down here at the very bottom.

You can go to your programs here.

So I think some of this, it looks like it came from Windows, but obviously they couldn't use the Windows logos.

So if you go to 56k.rip, this is where you're going to find this.

And Jeff, if you needed to know or if you needed to refresh your memory of what a 56 baud modem sounded like, you can come to this website.

You can double-click on dial-up networking.

Are you seeing this?

Yeah, I'm actually playing around with it on my iPad right now looking at it.

There you go.

and okay so you can hear the audio because you really have to have the audio turned up and when

you go to this website there's a message that pops up at the very bottom but if i click dial here

i can hear it i don't think we can hear it on the podcast here but it is literally dialing the number

in fact i had this on this morning my wife was in the kitchen and she's like is is that a modem

are you why are you connected to a modem why are you doing that and i'm like no no no it's it's a

fake site that somebody put up on here but anyway it's just fun because probably what most people

will enjoy more than anything else is this little box right here what is this box it is minesweeper

but now by the way i've connected my modem and i'm at comet link again i think this is a made-up

company because you know they couldn't use aol or something but look at this jeff i mean i can go

into like the sports and this is what you and I were looking at on the worldwide web back in 1996

I mean it was just so like look at this button here it just made me so happy to kind of think

about through all of this I can jump off of there you can redial I'll have to give up but now if you

did want to play original version of Minesweeper they call it Minefield here because again they

can't use the real name but anyway that's my pick of of the week 56k.rip if you needed to let your

kids know what a 56 baud modem sounded like back in the day this is the site to go to that's really

funny i mean i've been running it on it's i'm using safari on my ipad right now but it's making

my entire ipad screen look like i'm running a windows computer from the early 90s and this is

really sort of funny look here's painter what was what was what was windows uh it's not painter

they called it paint shop or not um i can't remember but this was like the old 8-bit i mean

look at this you remember this you had like the crosshair and you could draw in there anyway it's

just it was it was just so much fun to go into my computer and there's the c drive there's your 3.5

inch floppy drive if you need to go to the a drive anyway it was just nice walk down memory lane

very fun very fun uh my tip of the week is that we all think about using apple music for listening to

music obviously audio music yeah but of course um every once in a while i am reminded that it's also

has lots of music videos you know talking about going back in time i mean i remember the 1980s

when mtv actually meant you sat down and watched video after video after video and that was fun when

i was a teenager in the 80s obviously that's what mtv is but um i was doing i was actually using my

vision pro this week and there's a um there's something on the vision pro where just in terms

of like spatial videos people will use their iphone to record 3d video yeah apple takes some of the

best of those and makes them available about every week or two they post some new ones and sometimes

they're like behind the scenes of like an apple tv show like behind the scenes of ted lasso or

something like that and they're sort of fun because it's it's something behind the scenes

but it's in 3d so you it's not like spatial video where it's like all immersive it's just like a

little you know rectangle but it's still in 3d so it's pretty cool anyway one of them that i saw

uh it was actually just last night was a uh nora jones if you remember the artist artist oh yeah

she was recording for apple music a video and i guess the audio version too of uh her classic song

from 2002 maybe called uh come away with me come away with me yes classic jones but she sort of had

a new version of it that was um she's playing piano and i i play piano and i love piano and

she's she's doing some really cool things it was a reimagined version of the song which

You should totally listen to it's fun.

But my point of it is that it was also the video.

So like the thing I saw on my vision pro was the behind the scenes.

But then I went from there and I clicked over to Apple music and I watched the music video

of, you know, like it was a typical three minute, whatever music video, her doing the

song.

And it was totally delightful because she has an amazing voice.

She's so talented on the piano.

It was a new version of the song.

This might be a version that she plays in concert right now.

And then once I started down that rabbit hole, I was just reminded that it's fun to watch

music videos.

you know, because if you take some time and obviously it's not just something you can listen

to while you're, you know, doing housework, it's more of a lean forward experience.

But my tip of the week is, you know, these are fun that you should totally watch these videos.

So if you want to watch them on your, on your Apple TV, for example, there's a page on the

Apple website that just reminds you, go to the music app and can navigate to videos and you can

just watch music video after music video. You can of course search for specific videos if you want,

but, but you could just have, you know, look, look through their list. Or if you're on an iPhone

and you just have some downtime,

maybe you're in an airport,

you just want to sit there

and watch some fun music videos.

If you go into the Apple Music app

and then if you go to the browse feature,

there's at the very bottom of the screen,

there's four little tabs.

Yeah.

It's called new.

And if you tap on new,

at the very top, they have new music.

But if you scroll down,

you'll go to the bottom

where they have music videos

and you can just scroll through new music videos

or they have music video playlists of like genres.

So if you want music videos from,

I don't know,

the eighties or the nineties or country music or whatever it was. And so it's just fun to remind

that I don't watch music videos very often, but I was reminded this week that they're there.

And it's, it's, I mean, they have tons of them. And, and again, some of these music videos are

so cool because you can actually see the artists playing their instrument, like I talked about,

but as you know, some music videos are fun because they're like mini movies, right? They, they, they,

they do really cool things and it's just fun to watch a fun little three minutes, three minute,

four minute movie with amazing music from an artist um again we all i don't have to sell you

on music videos we all know what they are but just a reminder is they are there on apple music and i

know that you're a spotify person um more than apple music brett i presume that spotify also has

music videos i don't even know but they do that but they've incorporated i mean maybe they have

a different section i like again i haven't dug that deep into this because i just don't do it

quite as often but i like the fact that they've got like a whole separate section in here in the

music videos i mean even if i scroll down here i've got u2 live videos so it's got like all a

collection of that it's got lyric videos hard rock videos at the very top i have um a video from

miley from the artist formerly known as miley cyrus apparently um i see this is this is really

cool i like the fact that they have it all collected into one uh and into one little section

here and that's really neat and if you're of the same age that i am and you want to go back to 1980s

music videos and if you want to watch video the radio star the first video on empty or any of those

other you know select hammer any of those other classic videos from the 80s they are there they

are waiting for you michael jackson thriller video you know classics are there waiting for you well

actually and also i just apparently you can do it inside the artist too because i searched for

norah jones sure it had come away with me live from apple music studios and so it has the audio

version and then it also has the video version so it's just a single that they've released in here

so the fact that you could go in that way as well like typically they apparently they do put the

videos in with the artists and the songs on there as well but i like the fact that there's a whole

little section that's devoted to it so that i can go through and explore a little bit more on there

as well. Good tip. I like that. Well, next week is going to be a very exciting week, Jeff.

You think we'll have something to talk about next week? I don't know. Maybe.

I think we'll have a few things. We'll have a few things to cover next week. It's going to be

exciting. And I know you and I will be talking between that time just because usually you and

I are texting like crazy back and forth. I'm sure we'll be texting during the event. It's going to

be fun. Don't miss it, folks. We'll see you next week. We'll talk with you next week too, Jeff.

Thanks.

Thanks, Brett.

Bye-bye, everybody.